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Waffledynamics
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C@LAg said:

there is no right to be able to afford to live where you want to,. opportunity, yes, right, no.

if a state or locality wants to have a min wage, and the voter's support it, then let them be stupid.

but having a national mandate for such is stupid as costs of living vary widely by state and location. and tying increases to inflation even moreso as lots of local inflationary issues have nothing to do with national factors.
I've decided I want to live in the most expensive part of NYC. Bend to my will.
Amazing Moves
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What do you know... Young dumb ****s chiming in with opinions..

Useful idiot starter kits.
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coolerguy12
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AggieDub14 said:

C@LAg said:




It amazes me that people really think they should be able to live a life of luxury on a minimum wage income. I fully agree that basic minimum expenses like rent, bills, and groceries should be covered by that wage. But you shouldn't be able to live fancy. And you sure as hell shouldn't be retiring at 65 as a cashier.


Please defend this statement.

There is no reason anyone beyond a high school education should be making minimum wage. Hell even in high school I don't think I ever made minimum wage. It's sheer ignorance to think that raising the price of labor won't raise the price of goods as well. A minimum wage job is not there to live off of. It's literally the bare minimum to teach high schoolers life skills.
harleyds2
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In my opinion it is about how you spend vs what you make. I'm in the banking industry. I've seen guys making 25k a year in early 50s have well over 1mm net worth. Minimal debt and honest as they come. Seem drs making 300k hiccup away from being bankrupt. Could lots of examples
Signel
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I am all about free markets and capitalism. What I hate seeing is when everyone discounts the fact that there are folks that are just born with a low IQ.

We can't ignore these people and dismiss their lives as their own fault. I understand how minimum wage hurts most, but someone is always going to be on that bottom of the bell curve and get screwed. We need to find a better way to help them and not discount their mental disabilities.

I am not suggesting a solution because I have no idea what would work. I know the government would screw it up, though.

Old Army Ghost
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AggieDub14 said:

Walmart pays their employees $7.25 then the taxpayer pays them the rest to subsidize their basic needs. Why not cut out the middle man?
Facts disagree with you.

https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Wal-Mart_Stores%2C_Inc/Hourly_Rate
Old Army Ghost
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Those basic minimum expenses are covered.

Minimum wage at 40 hours a week for 50 weeks a year is $14,500. Poverty level for a family of one is $12,760.
1997Aggie
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How do I get a blue check? Seems like every idiot out there has one. The blue check has completely lost its meaning when people that nobody knows or cares about have one.
txags92
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MGS said:

C@LAg said:


I'm actually surprised she correctly used "they're" instead of 'their'.
The complete lack of punctuation makes up for it.
powerbelly
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AggieDub14 said:

BigRobSA said:

AggieDub14 said:

Walmart pays their employees $7.25 then the taxpayer pays them the rest to subsidize their basic needs. Why not cut out the middle man?
Bull
****ing
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I compete with places like WalMart for my labor pool. They pay, at minimum, $11.

And they recently said they're hiking it to $15 for 425k of their employees.

Link

Quit listening to morons in the MSM. WalMart isn't the boogeyman they say they are.



That's great!

We should either abolish the minimum wage so there isn't this set minimum in place to pay people or we should make it automatically rise with inflation.


Abolish the minimum wage.
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C@LAg said:



Probably Posted by someone wearing $150 tennis shoes, driving a Mercedes, and living in the ghetto with a big gold chain around her neck!
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ValleyRatAg
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Abolish the minimum wage
Abolish unions
Abolish welfare
Imprison/Fine employers for hiring illegal labor 2yr/100k per offense. Applies to owner/president/CEO and HR if you have HR.
Enforce a 10% sales tax federally with no other taxes. Food staples, fresh/canned/frozen, are not taxed. No death tax.

Have a welfare program for the truly mentally and physically disabled or let the private market/charities/churches take care of it. Not sure on how this item of my plan would work yet.

I think this would best take care of everyone.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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Based on her words regarding minimum wage and a sandwich, I am thinking she isn't going to be able to figure out "if (condition) then (action).
Owlagdad
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When I taught seniors in Economics, minimum wage was alway an issue, lots of them worked. And of course, most wanted more than minimum wage. One of my texts I used was way before the modern ones, and explained this downside to increased minimum wage: " if an employer hires two unskilled kids to do a job for 7.25, he pays 14.50 an hour to get the job done. If minimum wage went to ten 10 an hour, he would pay 20 an hour. If that happens he would look at the one union or skilled person that could get job done at 16 an hour. He could hire the skilled guy for 16- even give in to 17 an hour and still save money over the two who made 10 an hour. So an increase in minimum wage puts the kids out of work and the union or skilled guy gets a raise out of the deal". Kids I taught understood this, but can't say as they liked it. Hope some of them retained it.
Funky Winkerbean
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Advancing within the hierarchy of your employer guarantees you will not be living on minimum wage.
TAMU1990
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AggieDub14 said:

C@LAg said:




It amazes me that people really think they should be able to live a life of luxury on a minimum wage income. I fully agree that basic minimum expenses like rent, bills, and groceries should be covered by that wage. But you shouldn't be able to live fancy. And you sure as hell shouldn't be retiring at 65 as a cashier.
I do not agree that minimum wage should cover basic necessities. entry level jobs were not meant to be jobs to raise families or to live on. They are jobs for kids coming into the workforce and low skilled individuals. The whole concept is to gain skills to move up the ladder, not stay at McDonalds flipping burgers your whole life. The rest of us should not foot the bill for lazy people.
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Let's not forget what the minimum wage actually is and is supposed to do. The purpose is to allow employers to hire persons for entry level jobs and allow them to gain experience that will allow them to make themselves a more valuable employee to their current employer or future employer. The employer can make a profit due to the cheaper labor cost and the employee has the ability to increase his value for better paying jobs. As with everything in life "cost incurred, is cost passed on."
Minimum wage is a entry level wage not a make your living wage. If you live at home in your mom's basement I am sure you could pull it off. Let them raise the rate as then the unemployment for the no experience or low experience will sky rocket and add to the numbers of persons who are currently unemployed due to executive orders that have been put into place. The higher they make the wage the more incentive employers or companies have to modernize or use mechanization to do away with the entry level jobs forever.
TAMU1990
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Maroon Dawn said:

C@LAg said:




The incredible part is that she doesn't understand how expensive a sandwich will be when you have to pay the kid making it at LEAST $25 an hour

Just confirms that being a leftist requires one to have no concept of basic math
Math is racist now. We all have to understand that.
TAMU1990
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harleyds2 said:

In my opinion it is about how you spend vs what you make. I'm in the banking industry. I've seen guys making 25k a year in early 50s have well over 1mm net worth. Minimal debt and honest as they come. Seem drs making 300k hiccup away from being bankrupt. Could lots of examples
It's amazing what you see when you have access to people's credit reports.
Emotional Support Cobra
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I am still obsessed with their tone deafness about packing lunch. You could buy 5 Lean Cuisines or 5 frozen burritos (the good sized ones) for $10 -12 and eat for the whole week if you are working for low wages. Or any wage.
Old McDonald
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Fenrir said:

C@LAg said:




...this is satire right?


it's absolutely satire, can't believe how many idiots in this thread think it's serious
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91AggieLawyer said:

AggieDub14 said:

C@LAg said:




It amazes me that people really think they should be able to live a life of luxury on a minimum wage income. I fully agree that basic minimum expenses like rent, bills, and groceries should be covered by that wage. But you shouldn't be able to live fancy. And you sure as hell shouldn't be retiring at 65 as a cashier.

You CAN'T be serious. I had exactly ONE job that was minimum wage. ONE. My first. I was 16.

Actually, had I known about another place where I ended up working a year later, I never would have worked at the first place and made minimum wage. Most of my friends were making more than minimum wage before we graduated HS. In fact, if you weren't, you didn't say anything.


I had a job in college making $7/hr, then minimum wage increased to $7.25, so I started making $7.25. I asked to then start making $9/hr and my manager said that the company couldn't afford to pay everyone an extra $2/hr at the time. After several months I was able to get bumped up again above minimum wage, but it wasn't a bump to $9/hr like I wanted.

Moral of the story, if you're making $15/hr now and feeling pretty good, don't expect to start making $22/hr once minimum wage is increased. You'll just simply be making minimum wage again like you did when you were 16.
57 STATES!
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Fightin TX Aggie said:

C@LAg said:


Just wait until you see how expensive sandwiches are when the workers at Potbelly get paid $25/hr.

Why are Subway sandwiches in College Station the same price as in NYC?
Fightin TX Aggie
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Because they're a huge international corporation with great buying power, and they spread their costs out between stores?
SpreadsheetAg
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Cost to make your own sandwich each day:

2 slices of bread: $0.40
3 slices of Turkey: $0.60
1 slice cheese: $0.20
Mustard: $0.10
Mayo: $0.10
Veggies: $0.60

$2.00 per day

Subway: $6 per day

Saving $4.00 a day x 261 working days in a year =

$1,044 annual savings
ABATTBQ11
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C@LAg said:




Peanut butter and jelly and that expensive.
ABATTBQ11
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ABATTBQ11 said:

C@LAg said:




Peanut butter and jelly and that expensive.


And imagine how expensive it will be when the person making it is getting $25/hr instead of $8/hr
BigRobSA
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SpreadsheetAg said:

Cost to make your own sandwich each day:

2 slices of bread: $0.40
3 slices of Turkey: $0.60
1 slice cheese: $0.20
Mustard: $0.10
Mayo: $0.10
Veggies: $0.60

$2.00 per day

Subway: $6 per day

Saving $4.00 a day x 261 working days in a year =

$1,044 annual savings
Only 4 yrs to save for Spinners/Tailgate Mural/IN-truck keggerator.
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57 STATES! said:

Fightin TX Aggie said:

C@LAg said:


Just wait until you see how expensive sandwiches are when the workers at Potbelly get paid $25/hr.

Why are Subway sandwiches in College Station the same price as in NYC?


They're not...
Ag with kids
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57 STATES! said:

Fightin TX Aggie said:

C@LAg said:


Just wait until you see how expensive sandwiches are when the workers at Potbelly get paid $25/hr.

Why are Subway sandwiches in College Station the same price as in NYC?
Price of 6" DrayPotle Steak in Corpus (the Bluff): $5.09

Price of 6" DrayPotle Steak in NYC (112 John St): $6.29

Cost differential: 23.6% more in NYC...

BTW...I also looked at the Subway on Harvey in CS. It's $5.19. So, NYC is still 21.2% more expensive. I only picked CC first because I live here...


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Boozer92 said:

She means sandwiches are about to cost $25. Everyone middle class and below needs to feel the pain. Leveling the field is never about increasing wealth. Always about spreading poverty
. Most folks will just decide to make a sandwich at home.
91AggieLawyer
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tpw said:

The reason why Walmart and Amazon support a minimum wage increase is because they want to drive out the competition

This is why all big business like regulation. They can afford to pay the higher costs and it doesn't affect them. It does, however, affect their competition, no matter what industry. Its the reason why Wall Street and to a lesser extent energy went to democrats over the last 2 decades. That, and a sophisticated pay for play scheme.
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