The spoon, knife, and fork are still by far the most dangerous things to present day Americans. You can thank the food pyramid largely for that

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At the end of the day, that is 500k people who are dead.

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99% of them would have been dead if COVID never existed. Probably would be Flu deaths.

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except you are wrong and don't have a single iota of evidence to support this absurd claim.

Covid is more serious than the flu and Trump knew that a year ago.

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm

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Influenza activity is currently low in the United States and globally.

...the percentage of U.S. respiratory specimens submitted for influenza testing that tested positive decreased from >20% to 2.3% and has remained at historically low interseasonal levels (0.2% versus 12%). Data from Southern Hemisphere countries also indicate little influenza activity.

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Yes, the flu has decreased significantly. The error in what you said is that it would kill as many people as covid has. When it's been shown that covid is much more deadly than the flu.

I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

If the count was accurate, it would be only a small fraction of the 500,000, likely a very small fraction.

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At the end of the day, that is 500k people who are dead.

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99% of them would have been dead if COVID never existed. Probably would be Flu deaths.

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except you are wrong and don't have a single iota of evidence to support this absurd claim.

Covid is more serious than the flu and Trump knew that a year ago.

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March 8, 2020, Fauci was still saying it wasn't a big deal, don't worry about masks.

Good thing we don't have to worry about the "regular flu" anymore...

Here's a link to the CDC Flu website.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILIActivityMap

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here.

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* without normalizing for population, thus rendering it quantitatively meaningless

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. Heart Disease has killed more than any of those. Pretty sure abortion is number 1 though.

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Roe vs. Wade: 61,000,000....and counting.

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For the impaired that is 61 million.

Cnn doesn't have a counter for abortions.

This is a better representation

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* without normalizing for population, thus rendering it quantitatively meaningless

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Everyone with half a functioning brain had this same thought the minute they read this. It's sad that so many morons exist that won't get it.

Still too much traffic

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Misleading because they're using total deaths instead of breaking it down into seasonal and annual deaths, and they're also not correcting for population. Moreover comparing pandemic deaths to wartime deaths is completely meaningless.

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What would the chart look like if we added obesity to it? Especially considering many COVID deaths were obesity related.

Lol please explain to me how 750k people in 1860 compares to 500k in 2020.

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Good thing we don't have to worry about the "regular flu" anymore...

Here's a link to the CDC Flu website.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILIActivityMap

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here.

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Staggering depiction, thanks for that.

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larry culpepper said:

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At the end of the day, that is 500k people who are dead.

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99% of them would have been dead if COVID never existed. Probably would be Flu deaths.

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except you are wrong and don't have a single iota of evidence to support this absurd claim.

Covid is more serious than the flu and Trump knew that a year ago.

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm

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Influenza activity is currently low in the United States and globally.

...the percentage of U.S. respiratory specimens submitted for influenza testing that tested positive decreased from >20% to 2.3% and has remained at historically low interseasonal levels (0.2% versus 12%). Data from Southern Hemisphere countries also indicate little influenza activity.

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Yes, the flu has decreased significantly. The error in what you said is that it would kill as many people as covid has. When it's been shown that covid is much more deadly than the flu.

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The Flu and Covid both cull from the same near-death population. When you look at "excess deaths" it appears that Covid is biting a bit deeper than the Flu, but in several years you should be able to compare 5 year aggregations and there won't be a ripple of difference between 2015-2019 and 2020-2024.

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How many total deaths from all causes did we have in the U.S. in 2020 vs the prior 5 years?

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posts like this make me chuckle. It's like you and people like you are working so hard to do everything you can to make it sound like covid is no big deal. When the numbers are presented you just respond with bUt PeOpLe DiE eVrYdAy. wHy ShUd I cArE.

At the end of the day, that is 500k people who are dead. Families who lost someone. Actual people with lives. It's sad seeing an entire political party try so hard to downplay them like they dont matter.

Also I dont understand (nor will I ever) why it's so hard to just admit this virus is a serious problem. A year ago people laughed at that notion, and now even after 500k Americans are dead people are playing the same tune. yeah, we know the vast majority of people survive. But you are also willfully ignorant if you think this virus is no different from the cold.

Whatever, I know I am not going to change your mind. It's just disgusting seeing stuff like this and the OP trying to start circle jerks about how covid is a hoax and all the numbers are fabricated just to get Trump out of office.

Edit: I got curious and checked. While the full data is not yet available, 2020 deaths are on track to surpass 2019 by at least 400k. On average deaths increase each year by 20k-50k. https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

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If only China Joe would hold China responsible, right?

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It is not meaningless as a life lost is a life lost. Regardless of if was 1 life in 10 or 1 life in 100.

That said, both parameters are important. Normalizing gives you the magnitude in relation to the population and pleases statisticians, but raw count is more personal and is of concern to everyday people.

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Well it certainly shouldn't be to the vast, vast majority. There are 7 billion people in the world, and 333 million in the US. If we tracked everything daily, and publicized it, you could be afraid of many things every year for the rest of your life rather than going out and living.

The world population is growing exponentially. the average age of death is minimally changed, if at all, by covid, throughout all of this. It's sad. I wish it didn't happen. Beyond that? Concern, devastation? Not the virus itself. The fallout from the stuff that came along with it is far more so devastating and a concern to some of us.

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I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

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The vast majority don't deny it. We just don't think life should have halted because of it. Hth

Covid is just about done. Stupid comparisons to other historic events are nothing more than efforts, by those that are profiting off of fear, to keep it front and center in the minds of the not-so-bright.

Who gives a crap how it compares to deaths from the Civil War?

Well, I was slightly off. I guessed Civil War at Number 1.

But I had Being on Hiliary's bad side coming in second.

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larry culpepper said:

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I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

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The vast majority don't deny it. We just don't think life should have halted because of it. Hth

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Fair enough, but time and time again you see posts on here saying the death count is bull****

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Well, I was slightly off. I guessed Civil War at Number 1.

But I had Being on Hiliary's bad side coming in second.

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They all died "while" bring on her s-list, not "from" it.

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larry culpepper said:

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I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

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The vast majority don't deny it. We just don't think life should have halted because of it. Hth

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Fair enough, but time and time again you see posts on here saying the death count is bull****

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Sure. And you see posts on here that claim every covid reported death is legitimate. Smart people know the truth lies somewhere in the middle of the extremes.

I would be very careful about reporting any sort of "death" numbers for 2020. For example, I think the CDC just released the 2018 numbers. Who knows what changes were made from the initial report to the "finalized" form.

Those libs with the Iraqi war count would have been screwed during the COVIDs.

How many folks pass from cancer / heart disease annually?

Breaking news, Donald Trump got over 187,000% more votes than George Washington.

larry culpepper said:

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beerad12man said:

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larry culpepper said:

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I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

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The vast majority don't deny it. We just don't think life should have halted because of it. Hth

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Fair enough, but time and time again you see posts on here saying the death count is bull****

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Well, it is.

I've witnessed it firsthand... and while that's anecdotal, it's no doubt a wide spread issue that will continue until the CARES Act money is depleted.

Yall know where this is leading, right?

"One of the silver linings of Covid masking was a reduction in flu deaths. Knowing what we know, wouldn't it be the right thing to mask every flu season?"

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Yall know where this is leading, right?

"One of the silver linings of Covid masking was a reduction in flu deaths. Knowing what we know, wouldn't it be the right thing to mask every flu season?"

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This is what worries me.

larry culpepper said:

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larry culpepper said:

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I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

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The vast majority don't deny it. We just don't think life should have halted because of it. Hth

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Fair enough, but time and time again you see posts on here saying the death count is bull****

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I agree that the comments about how 99% of the 500k would be dead by now are dumb. That's likely 5-10%, maybe 20%. But certainly not 99%.

larry culpepper said:

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beerad12man said:

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larry culpepper said:

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I think Cuomo is a pos too...

I'm just frustrated and disheartened that covid denial has become a mainstream GOP position.

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The vast majority don't deny it. We just don't think life should have halted because of it. Hth

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Fair enough, but time and time again you see posts on here saying the death count is bull****

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Stop your faux outrage. If you cared, you'd demand China be punished. Instead, China Joe, your president, has rewarded them handsomely. You don't give one flipping damn about a single covid death.

the flu doesnt exist anymore, havent you heard!