NY Times: Trump Subverted the Election (step-by-step narrative)

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In the NY Times is a good piece with lots of detail about the Trump 'disinformation' campaign to "subvert democracy." (gag!)

It starts out ominously enough:

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By Thursday the 12th of November, President Donald J. Trump's election lawyers were concluding that the reality he faced was the inverse of the narrative he was promoting in his comments and on Twitter. There was no substantial evidence of election fraud, and there were nowhere near enough "irregularities" to reverse the outcome in the courts.

Mr. Trump did not, could not, win the election, not by "a lot" or even a little. His presidency would soon be over.

Allegations of Democratic malfeasance had disintegrated in embarrassing fashion. A supposed suitcase of illegal ballots in Detroit proved to be a box of camera equipment. "Dead voters" were turning up alive in television and newspaper interviews.

The week was coming to a particularly demoralizing close: In Arizona, the Trump lawyers were preparing to withdraw their main lawsuit as the state tally showed Joseph R. Biden Jr. leading by more than 10,000 votes, against the 191 ballots they had identified for challenge.

Then it gives background on how Paxton ended up being the state AG who would file the lawsuit provided by Trump, of course. Paxton didn't write it:

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For every lawyer on Mr. Trump's team who quietly pulled back, there was one ready to push forward with propagandistic suits that skated the lines of legal ethics and reason. That included not only Mr. Giuliani and lawyers like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, but also the vast majority of Republican attorneys general, whose dead-on-arrival Supreme Court lawsuit seeking to discount 20 million votes was secretly drafted by lawyers close to the White House, The Times found.

As traditional Republican donors withdrew, a new class of Trump-era benefactors rose to finance data analysts and sleuths to come up with fodder for the stolen-election narrative. Their ranks included the founder of MyPillow, Mike Lindell, and the former Overstock.com chief executive Patrick Byrne, who warned of "fake ballots" and voting-machine manipulation from China on One America News Network and Newsmax, which were finding ratings in their willingness to go further than Fox in embracing the fiction that Mr. Trump had won.

As Mr. Trump's official election campaign wound down, a new, highly organized campaign stepped into the breach to turn his demagogic fury into a movement of its own, reminding key lawmakers at key times of the cost of denying the will of the president and his followers. Called Women for America First, it had ties to Mr. Trump and former White House aides then seeking presidential pardons, among them Stephen K. Bannon and Michael T. Flynn.

As it crossed the country spreading the new gospel of a stolen election in Trump-red buses, the group helped build an acutely Trumpian coalition that included sitting and incoming members of Congress, rank-and-file voters and the "de-platformed" extremists and conspiracy theorists promoted on its home page including the white nationalist Jared Taylor, prominent QAnon proponents and the Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio.

With each passing day the lie grew, finally managing to do what the political process and the courts would not: upend the peaceful transfer of power that for 224 years had been the bedrock of American democracy.
Nitty gritty on Paxton and why he was chosen to deliver the payload to subvert democracy:

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Only one type of lawyer can take a case filed by one state against another directly to the Supreme Court: a state attorney general. The president's original election lawyers doubted that any attorney general would be willing to do so, according to one member of the team, speaking on the condition of anonymity. But Mr. Kobach and his colleagues were confident. After all, nine attorneys general were on the Trump campaign's lawyers group, whose recruitment logo featured the president as Uncle Sam, saying: "I want you to join Lawyers for Trump. Help prevent voter fraud on Election Day."

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The obvious choice to bring the suit was Ken Paxton of Texas, an ardent proponent of the president's voter-fraud narrative who had filed a number of lawsuits and legal memos challenging the pandemic-related expansion of mail-in voting. But he was compromised by a criminal investigation into whether he had inappropriately used his office to help a wealthy friend and donor. (He has denied wrongdoing.)

The Trump allies made a particularly intense appeal to Louisiana's attorney general, Jeffrey M. Landry, a member of Lawyers for Trump and, at the time, the head of the Republican Attorneys General Association.

He declined. Mr. Paxton would be the one. He decided to carry the case forward even after lawyers in his own office argued against it, including his own solicitor general, Kyle D. Hawkins, who refused to let his name be added to any complaint.

The piece meanders through the facts of what happened, winking towards its readership who knows anyone who believed the election was dishonest is a moron and were played by the president. The NY Times slant.

The conclusion is dire. There are still a lot of folks who believe the election was dishonest!

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It was all as Ms. Lawrence had predicted. "The MAGA movement is more than just Donald Trump," she said in an interview. "This is not going to go away when he leaves office."

Mr. Lindell [My Pillow guy] now says he has spent $2 million and counting on his continuing investigations of voting machines and foreign interference.

And Mr. Stockton recently announced a new plan on his Facebook page: a "MAGA Sellout Tour."
"What we do now is we take note of the people who betrayed President Trump in Congress and we get them out of Congress," he said. "We're going to make the Tea Party look tiny in comparison."

Source: NY Times. 77 Days: Trump's Campaign to Subvert the Election
Here's my take. Trump truly believes the election was stolen. People around him believe the election was stolen. I think even Bill Barr knows the election was stolen. Like Barr, we can't prove it, and now we can't mention our belief the election was stolen. There was too much silencing of dissent. Too many people ready to condemn anyone for casting doubts on the election. Something was up. Today, we are enduring 180 degree turnaround of whatever was done the previous 4 years. Then there is the impeachment that will enrage us.

There is a backlash coming, as that guy at the end of the piece said while promising this is bigger than any tea party movement. I think it's going to make Jan. 6 look like a clown show.

Final thought: This piece reads like a Shelby Foote narrative of the Civil War. A really good read.

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The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.
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I'm calling BS
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NY Times. LOL.
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Zero credibility to NYT/Maggie Haberman etc. They employ Paul Krugman for goodness sakes.
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The New York Times is usually full of crap and they're just another propaganda arm of the DNC. Not to mention they have a huge level of TDS.

Their rag isn't worth any more than toilet paper already soaked with urine.
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The Slimes pushed Russia, Russia, Russia for 3+ years.

They have less credibility than the daily phone calls I get wanting to sell me a car warranty.
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I thought only conservatives, you know, the deplorables, chumps and smelly Walmart shoppers believed in conspiracies. Man, whoever wrote that NYT's article put their tinfoil hat on way too tight.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Is The NY Times even interested in the current president?
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It's a crazy simple question and should be a simple answer.

Did several swing states violate their State Constitutions by using processes and procedures for their election that were not allowed by existing State regulation?

Yes or No?

If Yes, then investigate motive. Who changed the processes, what is their party affiliation, and have they made their opinion of Trump public in any way? There is your election fraud.

In summary, if Democratic non-legislature personnel (Secretary of State, State Supreme Court) with public anti Trump statements changed the election process in violation of state law, that is the election fraud. You don't need proof that that illegal activity resulted in further illegal activity!
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Thou doth protest too much libs
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Ellis Wyatt said:

The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.


Run by people that supported trump for president ... that's odd
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The left is a collective group of pathological liars. Their arrogance, hypocrisy, and aversion to the truth are tearing this country apart.
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Born&Raised said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.


Run by people that supported trump for president ... that's odd
I don't care who things were run by. States illegally changed their election laws. I am consistent in my demand that we follow the rule of law. I don't advocate for just the things that advance my own political interests.
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Born&Raised said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.


Run by people that supported trump for president ... that's odd


Get back to me with a list of those states AG's, their political affiliations, and who you think they supported for president.....
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Gaslighting and blaming it all on trump, of course, as they've always done.
Gig'em
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I think even Bill Barr knows the election was stolen.
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It was Dec. 1, nearly a month after the election, and Barr had some sharp advice to get off his chest. The president's theories about a stolen election, Barr told Trump, were "bullsh**."

White House counsel Pat Cipollone and a few other aides in the room were shocked Barr had come out and said it although they knew it was true. For good measure, the attorney general threw in a warning that the new legal team Trump was betting his future on was "clownish."
per Jonathan Swan and Axios
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Born&Raised said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.


Run by people that supported trump for president ... that's odd
Degenerate Democrat election officials in urban centers took full advantage of the rule changes to cheat as much as they possibly could get away with unnoticed. You have to have strict rules and oversight when people with no ethical boundaries are given the keys to the kingdom.
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FTAggies said:

Gaslighting and blaming it all on trump, of course, as they've always done.
Maggie Haberman was used as a mouthpiece by the FBI/DOJ while they were scripting the Russia conspiracy tale against Trump and some people who were part of his campaign.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Born&Raised said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.


Run by people that supported trump for president ... that's odd
I don't care who things were run by. States illegally changed their election laws. I am consistent in my demand that we follow the rule of law. I don't advocate for just the things that advance my own political interests.
Well said. In my experience most conservatives stand by ethics regardless of party affiliation.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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My thoughts are you cannot have a fair election with

MAIL IN BALLOTS

PERIOD

Furthermore there has not been a proper investigation by non-partisan groups with subpoena power.

Will your side allow President Trump to hand pick the people to have subpoena power and investigate election fraud. At this point I wouldn't believe anything else! Especially not the NY slime!
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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Degenerate Democrat election officials in urban centers took full advantage of the rule changes to cheat as much as they possibly could get away with unnoticed.
And they were on Zuckerberg's payroll through the CTCL "grants" that were really bribes to ignore or violate state election codes.
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richardag said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Born&Raised said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The subversion of democracy was by the states that refused to follow their own election laws.


Run by people that supported trump for president ... that's odd
I don't care who things were run by. States illegally changed their election laws. I am consistent in my demand that we follow the rule of law. I don't advocate for just the things that advance my own political interests.
Well said. In my experience most conservatives stand by ethics regardless of party affiliation.
It's why the right is often caught flat-footed by the lowlife stunts dims will pull. All that should be over with now. There is not a single person with any morals or integrity on the left anymore. There is no lie they won't tell and nothing so illegal they won't do to advance their political agenda.
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It is hilarious to me how the left can't leave Trump alone. They don't know what to do without him.

They will never admit it, but he was the best thing that ever happened to the media.
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aggiehawg said:

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Degenerate Democrat election officials in urban centers took full advantage of the rule changes to cheat as much as they possibly could get away with unnoticed.
And they were on Zuckerberg's payroll through the CTCL "grants" that were really bribes to ignore or violate state election codes.
Absolutely, it's a shame that Zuckerberg buying the election has gotten so little coverage. He needs to take a long trip to PMITA Federal prison.
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Ag87H2O said:

It is hilarious to me how the left can't leave Trump alone. They don't know what to do without him.

They will never admit it, but he was the best thing that ever happened to the media.


I have not been paying as much attention but the little articles I see go past or a promo here in there it's totally true. They may turn on Biden a bit but they're too chicken**** to go after Kamala.
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annie88 said:

Ag87H2O said:

It is hilarious to me how the left can't leave Trump alone. They don't know what to do without him.

They will never admit it, but he was the best thing that ever happened to the media.


I have not been paying as much attention but the little articles I see go past or a promo here in there it's totally true. They may turn on Biden a bit but they're too chicken**** to go after Kamala.


Yea they'll never go after Kamala. If they do the woke twitter mob will come after them and demand the woke corporations pull their ads. These days the woke corporations would happily comply to score a public win for "social justice".
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aggieforester05 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Degenerate Democrat election officials in urban centers took full advantage of the rule changes to cheat as much as they possibly could get away with unnoticed.
And they were on Zuckerberg's payroll through the CTCL "grants" that were really bribes to ignore or violate state election codes.
Absolutely, it's a shame that Zuckerberg buying the election has gotten so little coverage. He needs to take a long trip to PMITA Federal prison.
I also want to add that those counties who were receiving millions, ten million or more in some cases their grants had claw back provisions that if they did not do what Zuck demanded, CTCL would sue for the money back.
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aggiehawg said:

aggieforester05 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Degenerate Democrat election officials in urban centers took full advantage of the rule changes to cheat as much as they possibly could get away with unnoticed.
And they were on Zuckerberg's payroll through the CTCL "grants" that were really bribes to ignore or violate state election codes.
Absolutely, it's a shame that Zuckerberg buying the election has gotten so little coverage. He needs to take a long trip to PMITA Federal prison.
I also want to add that those counties who were receiving millions, ten million or more in some cases their grants had claw back provisions that if they did not do what Zuck demanded, CTCL would sue for the money back.
That is absolutely criminal.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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NY Times is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such
"Freedom is never more than one election away from extinction"
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richardag said:

aggiehawg said:

aggieforester05 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Degenerate Democrat election officials in urban centers took full advantage of the rule changes to cheat as much as they possibly could get away with unnoticed.
And they were on Zuckerberg's payroll through the CTCL "grants" that were really bribes to ignore or violate state election codes.
Absolutely, it's a shame that Zuckerberg buying the election has gotten so little coverage. He needs to take a long trip to PMITA Federal prison.
I also want to add that those counties who were receiving millions, ten million or more in some cases their grants had claw back provisions that if they did not do what Zuck demanded, CTCL would sue for the money back.
That is absolutely criminal.
Criminal solicitation, for starters.
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Election interference can be domestic too.
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Watch the video in this 2018 NYT piece about how easy it is to hack electronic voting machine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/opinion/election-voting-machine-hacking-russians.html

Commentary and quotes:
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"("All cybersecurity experts who have given electronic voting machines any thought agree. These machines have got to go the electronic voting machines Americans got to solve the problem of voting integrity turned out to be an awful idea. That's because people like me can hack them all too easily. I'm a computer scientist who has hacked a lot of electronic voting machines Imagine what the Russians and North Koreans can do Our highly computerized election infrastructure is vulnerable to sabotage and even to cyber-attacks." So wrote the same New York Times where now, two years later, even mention of the possibility has become verboten.)
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From Bloomberg, November 2019: "Expensive, Glitchy Voting Machines Expose 2020 Hacking Risks: Paper ballots may be safer and cheaper, but local officials swoon at digital equipment."

It was widely acknowledged in the techie world. See this 7 minute story "Voting Machine Hacks at DefCon".


ETA: Oops, forgot the LINK

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