aggieforester05 said:

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I'm in no way saying Republicans are faultless. I'm saying it's simply baseless to expect a Biden administration to somehow bring back stability and normalcy to our government that was allegedly missing during the Trump admin. They won't, they'll only make things worse.

Sure the media DNC propaganda machine won't be telling you that the world is ending everyday like they have been for the last four years, but that won't change the reality on the ground. The reality is, that despite all Trump's faults and the DNC propaganda machine's exaggeration of those faults and their many lies, this country has had a very successful three years before COVID hit and people went insane this last year.

Reality will also prove over time that the Biden administration will cause a lot of harm to the American people despite the DNC propaganda machine's constant praises. There is no way that their policy positions and planned EOs will have a positive impact on Americans. Go read Biden's policy positions on his website. I have and they are absolutely destructive garbage.

Claiming that Biden will return stability to our government is a perfect example of "feelings over facts". Policy positions are far more important than tweets and so called conservatives that voted for Biden voted for feels instead of policy. Unless they really aren't conservative at all.

This isn't even getting in to the prospect of putting another Democrat into the highest office in the land with virtually no media oversight and an endless tank of Bureaucrats willing to look the other way. Corruption will be king again, like it was during the Obama admin, that we're still suffering from.

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I get what you're saying. Where I'll argue a different perspective: I feel like those who are claiming to be "conservative" are acting anything but (Trump, Hawley, Cruz); they are basically playing to the emotions of the base in their attempts to overturn or question election. The party of limited federal gov't and pro states' rights is asking repeatedly for congress or Pence to intervene and install Trump or (at least) not certify Biden. I find that to be pretty extreme and I abhor it as much as I do radical progressives. No matter where any of us falls in the debate over voter fraud, that's a pretty eye-opening shift (equally surprising was Tom Cotton not going along with it haha).

Again, I'm coming back to how I was interpreting the market yesterday in a reply to OP. I'm not predicting or assuming the Biden admin will bring stability; I'm simply saying I can see how others (any myself) perceive Trump as unstable (especially with release of the phone call this weekend) and that could have impacted the markets on Monday.

Doug Collins said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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I'm in no way saying Republicans are faultless. I'm saying it's simply baseless to expect a Biden administration to somehow bring back stability and normalcy to our government that was allegedly missing during the Trump admin. They won't, they'll only make things worse.

Sure the media DNC propaganda machine won't be telling you that the world is ending everyday like they have been for the last four years, but that won't change the reality on the ground. The reality is, that despite all Trump's faults and the DNC propaganda machine's exaggeration of those faults and their many lies, this country has had a very successful three years before COVID hit and people went insane this last year.

Reality will also prove over time that the Biden administration will cause a lot of harm to the American people despite the DNC propaganda machine's constant praises. There is no way that their policy positions and planned EOs will have a positive impact on Americans. Go read Biden's policy positions on his website. I have and they are absolutely destructive garbage.

Claiming that Biden will return stability to our government is a perfect example of "feelings over facts". Policy positions are far more important than tweets and so called conservatives that voted for Biden voted for feels instead of policy. Unless they really aren't conservative at all.

This isn't even getting in to the prospect of putting another Democrat into the highest office in the land with virtually no media oversight and an endless tank of Bureaucrats willing to look the other way. Corruption will be king again, like it was during the Obama admin, that we're still suffering from.

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I get what you're saying. Where I'll argue a different perspective: I feel like those who are claiming to be "conservative" are acting anything but (Trump, Hawley, Cruz); they are basically playing to the emotions of the base in their attempts to overturn or question election. The party of limited federal gov't and pro states' rights is asking repeatedly for congress or Pence to intervene and install Trump or (at least) not certify Biden. I find that to be pretty extreme and I abhor it as much as I do radical progressives. No matter where any of us falls in the debate over voter fraud, that's a pretty eye-opening shift (equally surprising was Tom Cotton not going along with it haha).

Again, I'm coming back to how I was interpreting the market yesterday in a reply to OP. I'm not predicting or assuming the Biden admin will bring stability; I'm simply saying I can see how others (any myself) perceive Trump as unstable (especially with release of the phone call this weekend) and that could have impacted the markets on Monday.

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I actually agree with you about congressional intervention. I do not think that is a good path to take. It will set a very bad precedent going forward that will be used against conservatives by a power hungry Democrat party.

That being said, I find the results of the election very suspect even if no one has been able to prove election changing cheating in the very short time since the election. At this point, I don't want congressional intervention. I'd prefer they seat Biden and then uncover the truth about what really happened. That will lead to a neutered presidential administration with no mandate and a clean sweep in 2022 and 2024.

Ultimately it may come down to massive unsolicited VBM, ballot harvesting, Big Tech censorship, relentless MSM propaganda, and Zuckerburg's shady attempts to buy the election all being legal and effective. Which is all extremely unethical, but not legally considered cheating. The Democrats getting curbed stomped down ticket while blowing out the presidential election just doesn't sit right with me though. I think there was likely more to it and the cheaters just figured out how to work within the confines of the system they knew would be challenged in a way that's almost impossible to trace given the limitations. The Democrat's lack of ethical boundaries and previous desperate attempts to get rid of Trump only solidify this theory.

Hopefully the truth will come out and this will forever tarnish the image of the current Democrat party. Otherwise their antics and extremely unethical behavior over the last four years will be rewarded and become precedent. It desperately needed to be slapped down in this election. I have a hard time believing the American people rewarded them for Kavanaugh, Spygate, unprecedented Impeachment, Ukraine/China Biden corruption, Russiagate, BLM/Antifa destruction, lockdowns, and the relentless partisan media coverage.

good news! It will be a split in GA