Gbr1971 said:

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Winning these seats in Georgia should have been a layup. If the Republicans lose, the President is 100% at fault.

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Everything is Trumps fault.
Especially the shi$$y economy that's coming under Biden

The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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Or Friday dump... Trying to remember

deddog said:

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Gbr1971 said:

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Winning these seats in Georgia should have been a layup. If the Republicans lose, the President is 100% at fault.

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Everything is Trumps fault.
Especially the shi$$y economy that's coming under Biden

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Ha. Very, very little of the nations's problems today do not trace back to a Democrat's policy or action.

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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Can they cheat their way through this?

Is this a warning that Georgia will heed?

Not liking that the cheats from the presidential election haven't been remedied. I don't think this looks good for anyone but socialists and communist China

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Grew up in a socialist country.

Socialism works really well for the losers and the mediocre.
Folks who "blame the system" and consist largely of college educated folks in useless majors desperately trying to convince everyone that they "believe in science". Works well for teachers, unions and government workers - people who can't survive in the real world

Explains the blind support for democrats on this board, doesn't it?

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Four-year degrees in useless majors rank right above a GED IMO.

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Trump has done everything to ensure the Dems will win the Senate. Didn't think they would a month ago. Perdue went from a 4 point favorite to a 2 point dog. Loeffler went from a 1 point favorite to a 2 point dog.

Thank Lin Wood for telling Republicans not to vote as a protest.

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Still believing polls

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We will find out tomorrow. The market sure does believe the polls based on today.

Georgia was a relatively easy Republican win in 2018. If we lose both Senate seats, that is on Trump and his temper tantrum. A Dem majority in both houses would be his legacy.

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LOL WE. right buddy

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Am I not going to get to find out tomorrow?

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Got any family in Georgia voting for dems cause trump is mean ?

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I have a couple of Trumper cousins in Georgia that aren't voting because Lin Wood told them not to.

Jk the family is just watching from the sidelines on this one.

Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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actually wall street guys just like predictability and a system they know how to manipulate to boost quarterly profits.

They also like cronyism and free cash.

They know that with a Biden administration they can hit the Trifecta.

ask yourself this question- a Trump administration was the best administration for American workers and small businesses in 30-40 years.

why the hell would wall street want to change that? they were Biden's biggest donors.

when you can answer that question you will realize that what wall street wants is almost never in the best interests of the overall American economy or the average American worker.

the dumping had nothing to do with instability and everything to do with uncertainty regarding whether will pull off the steal.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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actually wall street guys just like predictability and a system they know how to manipulate to boost quarterly profits.

They also like cronyism and free cash.

They know that with a Biden administration they can hit the Trifecta.

ask yourself this question- a Trump administration was the best administration for American workers and small businesses in 30-40 years.

why the hell would wall street want to change that? they were Biden's biggest donors.

when you can answer that question you will realize that what wall street wants is almost never in the best interests of the overall American economy or the average American worker.

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So should it be booted out of the country with the U.N. and moved over to something like Beligum in Europe?

But isn't NY's communism already causing many to leave Wall Street physically?

I think it comes down to rules for thee and not for me.

The exodus from NY i think especially for the wealthy is largely exaggerated.

The wealthy enjoy the prestige of living in NYC. And they can hire enough lawyers and accountants to keep their taxes low enough to stay. If worse comes to worst they just fleece the sheep (me you, the average american) a little closer to get as much wool as they need to keep their yachts afloat.

Its the middle and upper middle class folks that the taxes are pushing out.

But regarding what is good for the country? That is tough.

There will always be a need for certain things....and unfortunately some corruption is innate to every system. The question becomes whether the corruption can be manageable and purged when needed.

The housing crisis was a purge that needed to happen and because of cronyism largely did not happen.

Just like Rome, when the corruption becomes unmanageable a slow decay will result. Have we hit that point yet?

I don't know. I know that relations with China and the exploitation of the corruption by the Chinese has accelerated it.

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Aggie95 said:

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Trump isn't to blame for the lack of GOP voters. Enough of them had an open mind to see gamesmanship and bs from Aug thru election day that they decided on their own not to vote.

I live in GA and I put the odds at

Split seats - 70%
Dems win both - 75%
GOP win both - 25%

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Doesn't seem to add up.

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You need to run it through a Dominion machine.

Trump, his lawyers, and to some extent, Mitch McConnell seem hell bent on trying to give this thing to the Dems. I still have hope's for at least Perdue to win.

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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Can they cheat their way through this?

Is this a warning that Georgia will heed?

Not liking that the cheats from the presidential election haven't been remedied. I don't think this looks good for anyone but socialists and communist China

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Grew up in a socialist country.

Socialism works really well for the losers and the mediocre.
Folks who "blame the system" and consist largely of college educated folks in useless majors desperately trying to convince everyone that they "believe in science". Works well for teachers, unions and government workers - people who can't survive in the real world

Explains the blind support for democrats on this board, doesn't it?

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You nailed it

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Trump, his lawyers, and to some extent, Mitch McConnell seem hell bent on trying to give this thing to the Dems. I still have hope's for at least Perdue to win.

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What has McConnell done --- you mean his stance on not allowing the 2K checks?

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Ags77 said:

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Trump, his lawyers, and to some extent, Mitch McConnell seem hell bent on trying to give this thing to the Dems. I still have hope's for at least Perdue to win.

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What has McConnell done --- you mean his stance on not allowing the 2K checks?

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Right or wrong, McConnell came out looking worse than Pelosi in the eyes of the voters. The Dems gamed the media narrative.

Truthfully, let them win the Senate. A Dem House, Senate, and Presidency will do more harm then good to their party. They will no longer have the blame crutch to use when they fall on their face. Student Loan payoff, gun confiscation, exponentially rising taxes, forced garbage govt healthcare. 2022 will be a blood bath. Then again liberals will blindly follow their feelings and jump off a cliff if told to.

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Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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actually wall street guys just like predictability and a system they know how to manipulate to boost quarterly profits.

They also like cronyism and free cash.

They know that with a Biden administration they can hit the Trifecta.

ask yourself this question- a Trump administration was the best administration for American workers and small businesses in 30-40 years.

why the hell would wall street want to change that? they were Biden's biggest donors.

when you can answer that question you will realize that what wall street wants is almost never in the best interests of the overall American economy or the average American worker.

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So should it be booted out of the country with the U.N. and moved over to something like Beligum in Europe?

But isn't NY's communism already causing many to leave Wall Street physically?

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Yeah I don't know exactly how my response was related to "Wall Street" except in an answer to the OP about "market dump" reasons.

I'm not biggest fan of finance guys nor big business, but I think 200 CEOs signing a letter covers a wide gamut of orgs and sectors beyond just finance

I hate this argument. With the media also in their pocket and cheating in elections to the point that the vote totals dont matter anymore, eliminating the filibuster and stacking SCOTUS, it really wont matter.

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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Grave danger, instability? Where was that when the economy and market were kicking ass before CoVID, and Trump had been around 3 years? Nope, it's simply that they would be happy to have matters decided one way or another so they know which party they need to focus on legally bribing for competitive advantage in future regulation.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Truthfully, let them win the Senate. A Dem House, Senate, and Presidency will do more harm then good to their party. They will no longer have the blame crutch to use when they fall on their face. Student Loan payoff, gun confiscation, exponentially rising taxes, forced garbage govt healthcare. 2022 will be a blood bath. Then again liberals will blindly follow their feelings and jump off a cliff if told to.

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Democrats are going to sweep elections in 2022 because no one will dare stop the cheating.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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Grave danger, instability? Where was that when the economy and market were kicking ass before CoVID, and Trump had been around 3 years? Nope, it's simply that they would be happy to have matters decided one way or another so they know which party they need to focus on legally bribing for competitive advantage in future regulation.

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amen, or Awomen. Shows you fortune 500 leaders are about greed, not USA and want to know who to grease with gifts. LOL, the democrats have all the poor so buffaloed into thinking they are for them-- while their elected get richer and richer. Thats why they hate Trump.

Markets green today, what's up with that

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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The media in this country loves them some socialism and is complicate in pushing the Dem narrative. Isolating many people making them feel powerless.

A lot of people feel like they can't do anything. I feel that way as well sometimes.

But I have noticed if you can get a group of 12 together at any meeting you can make it seem like the world is with you. If anything I would like to see more people showing up at local meetings to push back on all this garbage. It has to start from the local level up

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I think we can get a group of 12 ags to strategically show up at meetings. You can call them 12th Men

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How bout the 12 or 12 angry people? Don't want to be selective. All freedom loving individuals welcome!

polarice said:

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Markets green today, what's up with that

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Hoping it is a good sign for Georgia but who knows. If the dems do win I think Bitcoin and Silver take off. Probably Gold as well.

Yesterday morning Carl Icahn was talking about the market being an over extended bubble.

I think the obvious answer is that we have seen an unprecedented fed pump and bull run and if the election plays in, it would be about near term uncertainty. Prob not a sell off bc of dem blue wave that would inject more stimulus.

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Markets green today, what's up with that

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Just wait until that drooling moron you proudly voted for starts implementing his economy crushing policies. You'll be pining for Republican control again and claiming that you didn't vote for this pure idiocy. If liberals are good at anything it's cheating, lying, and making terrible decisions.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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Grave danger, instability? Where was that when the economy and market were kicking ass before CoVID, and Trump had been around 3 years? Nope, it's simply that they would be happy to have matters decided one way or another so they know which party they need to focus on legally bribing for competitive advantage in future regulation.

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amen, or Awomen. Shows you fortune 500 leaders are about greed, not USA and want to know who to grease with gifts. LOL, the democrats have all the poor so buffaloed into thinking they are for them-- while their elected get richer and richer. Thats why they hate Trump.

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I'll disagree only because a lot of formerly very pro-Trump folks attached themselves to the letter and many of the others signed have remained politically agnostic. That's a reason why I put some weight behind it's message.

But we can totally have different opinions, that's fine and healthy I think. If running a company, the government, or our own stock portfolios were easy there would be no need for debate! An entire line of management books would be unnecessary lol.

Regarding the previous 3 yrs vs now... Well, things have changed. I definitely think Trump would have been reelected save for COVID. He's still kind of in denial that he lost and that's the instability I'm discussing. People fearing violence at home or abroad possibly. Just my take

Under no circumstances will drool cup Biden bring stability to our government. It's simply untrue that Biden will be a better president in any way. He's a demented moron and his party is full of evil and incredibly dishonest people with absolutely terrible policy positions. The country will with absolute certainty be worse off with Biden in office. He may be kicked to the curb in 2024 but the rot of his administration will have lasting effects that may never go away.

it must suck living your life with so much hate and anger

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it must suck living your life with so much hate and anger

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Nothing I said is untrue.

I have a pretty damn good life, but I hate Democrats and Liberals for taking our country down the path they want to go down. I do not want my life or the life of my children to go into the crapper, because liberals want economy crushing socialism, gun control, one party control, a monopoly on censorship/propaganda, and open borders. Whether or not you can see their incrementalistic approach or not, that is where their policy positions lead.

The corruption of the Democrat party is so blatantly obvious and the lack of media oversight of the Democrat party is so blatantly obvious. You pretend to be blind to it because you perceive it as beneficial to yourself in the short term. It's incredibly foolish to ignore their power grabs and one day that wicked monster you've created will bite you in the ass and it isn't going to be pretty.

Conservatives want to conserve what made this country the most powerful and prosperous country the world has ever known and liberals want to destroy that system of government and replace it with systems that have 100% historical failure rates. All while openly driving racial divides into our country to get a stranglehold on their power. The complete foolishness and emotional recklessness of the left will be the thing that kills the American experiment.

the thing is, you don't have a clue what i am. you just think you do because i don't write angry drivel like you do.

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the thing is, you don't have a clue what i am. you just think you do because i don't write angry drivel like you do.

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If you oppose the corruption of the Democrat party and their DNC propaganda machine, then good for you.

That doesn't change the fact that the Biden administration will be a disaster, not only because Biden is far from a presidential material, but the Democrat party has taken a disasterous turn. They are in desperate need of reformation that purges the globalists and Marxists from their ranks. The Republicans need to purge the globalists and cronies from their ranks as well. There is simply no way that Biden will be better for America than Trump and Trump left A LOT to be desired. I'm just tired of hearing the narrative that he'll somehow be better than Trump, when that statement has no basis in reality. That is not a defense of Trump but a condemnation of how rotten the Democrat party has become, since they can act with the impunity of virtually no media oversight.

We need two parties with opposing ideas that have the best interests of America and Americans in mind. That is far from what we have now. The Democrats work to drive America away from what's successful while the Republicans provide just enough opposition to keep them in power without really doing anything.

Liberals keep voting to screw up the country while conservatives desperately vote for Republicans to prevent liberals from screwing up the country. It's a viscous circle that seems to have no end unless the Democrats reform themselves into something better and make the Republicans compete for votes with good ideas instead of simply opposition to bad ideas.

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sts7049 said:

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the thing is, you don't have a clue what i am. you just think you do because i don't write angry drivel like you do.

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If you oppose the corruption of the Democrat party and their DNC propaganda machine, then good for you.

That doesn't change the fact that the Biden administration will be a disaster, not only because Biden is far from a presidential material, but the Democrat party has taken a disasterous turn. They are in desperate need of reformation that purges the globalists and Marxists from their ranks. The Republicans need to purge the globalists and cronies from their ranks as well. There is simply no way that Biden will be better for America than Trump and Trump left A LOT to be desired. I'm just tired of hearing the narrative that he'll somehow be better than Trump, when that statement has no basis in reality. That is not a defense of Trump but a condemnation of how rotten the Democrat party has become, since they can act with the impunity of virtually no media oversight.

We need two parties with opposing ideas that have the best interests of America and Americans in mind. That is far from what we have now. The Democrats work to drive America away from what's successful while the Republicans provide just enough opposition to keep them in power without really doing anything.

Liberals keep voting to screw up the country while conservatives desperately vote for Republicans to prevent liberals from screwing up the country. It's a viscous circle that seems to have no end unless the Democrats reform themselves into something better and make the Republicans compete for votes with good ideas instead of simply opposition to bad ideas.

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We can debate on appropriate ideas, but you're really operating from a point of "feelings over facts" that I think is clouding your vision. That's something lobbed at liberals very often and there are truths to it because we see a lot of college kids and triggered folks being too extreme.

I believe Trump is personally unstable and there is a lot of evidence to back that up but we don't need to re-hash it; that instability trickles down through his admin to the American people and that's why he was voted out despite his popularity and Republicans gaining house seats/maintaining Senate seats (pending) in same election.

I think we should acknowledge that the "Q" side of the GOP and the super progressive side of Dems ("squad" etc) are two sides of the same dangerous coin. But the "us vs. them" talk only drives us further to those polarities and I'm hoping we can avoid that by agreeing to acceptable beliefs about role of gov't, then debate the proper execution of those beliefs. The inability to debate ideas leaves us open to mistrust and hypocrisy.

It's why I find it so odd this talk of big business and Wall Street being only for themselves and cronyism is a "liberal caused" thing when the two R's on ticket today in GA have multiple, documented examples of leveraging their positions in Congress to make trades and bank profits/avoid losses. It's disingenuous to me to claim only one side does it because we can only grow by acknowledging our own faults. This link here also makes me question Yellin a bit (before I get accused of being a Biden loving commie): https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/04/republican-david-perdue-georgia-senate-runoff-traded-bank-stocks?__twitter_impression=true

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polarice said:

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Markets green today, what's up with that

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Just wait until that drooling moron you proudly voted for starts implementing his economy crushing policies. You'll be pining for Republican control again and claiming that you didn't vote for this pure idiocy. If liberals are good at anything it's cheating, lying, and making terrible decisions.

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"pining for Republican control again"

Never happen, the Democratic Party leadership will blame President Trump with MSM backing their false narrative.

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I'm in no way saying Republicans are faultless. I'm saying it's simply baseless to expect a Biden administration to somehow bring back stability and normalcy to our government that was allegedly missing during the Trump admin. They won't, they'll only make things worse.

Sure the media DNC propaganda machine won't be telling you that the world is ending everyday like they have been for the last four years, but that won't change the reality on the ground. The reality is, that despite all Trump's faults and the DNC propaganda machine's exaggeration of those faults and their many lies, this country has had a very successful three years before COVID hit and people went insane this last year.

Reality will also prove over time that the Biden administration will cause a lot of harm to the American people despite the DNC propaganda machine's constant praises. There is no way that their policy positions and planned EOs will have a positive impact on Americans. Go read Biden's policy positions on his website. I have and they are absolutely destructive garbage.

Claiming that Biden will return stability to our government is a perfect example of "feelings over facts". Policy positions are far more important than tweets and so called conservatives that voted for Biden voted for feels instead of policy. Unless they really aren't conservative at all.

This isn't even getting in to the prospect of putting another Democrat into the highest office in the land with virtually no media oversight and an endless tank of Bureaucrats willing to look the other way. Corruption will be king again, like it was during the Obama admin, that we're still suffering from.

Owlagdad said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Doug Collins said:

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The dumping is probably due to instability of Trump, honestly. Fortune 500 leaders today signed joint statement urging certification of Biden because they understand the grave danger Trump's instability brings. They want stimulus and they want effective vaccine distribution which cannot be trusted right now from this administration. Both of those will drive stocks higher and speed rebound of economy.

There was a Monday dump in Nov too.

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Grave danger, instability? Where was that when the economy and market were kicking ass before CoVID, and Trump had been around 3 years? Nope, it's simply that they would be happy to have matters decided one way or another so they know which party they need to focus on legally bribing for competitive advantage in future regulation.

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amen, or Awomen. Shows you fortune 500 leaders are about greed, not USA and want to know who to grease with gifts. LOL, the democrats have all the poor so buffaloed into thinking they are for them-- while their elected get richer and richer. Thats why they hate Trump.

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Awomen, Biden had double the billionaire backers that Trump did. Anyone who thinks he's for the poor or the average American is a fool.