"Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, OMG, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Strawman much? Name on Biden policy; or Democrat policy that would result in either prosperity or peace...

esteban said:

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Trump will be the first president since at least ww2 with net negative job growth during his presidency. It's hard to do worse than that.

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Thanks to the coordinated efforts of dem states and China virus.

BMX Bandit said:

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I want a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden White House

But if Biden is successful in implementing his policies, we won't have a prosperous or peaceful America.

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Agreed.

If Criminal Joe succeeds, American loses.

doubledog said:

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esteban said:

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Trump will be the first president since at least ww2 with net negative job growth during his presidency. It's hard to do worse than that.

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This is another example of a logical fallacy. One cannot make a logical conclusion if a major premise is not considered (syllogistic fallacies). In this case the major premise is the COVID-19 shutdown.

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Which, as someone already stated, was done at the state and local levels. Since Trump isn't the dictator they falsely claim, he didn't try to force economies open.

BTKAG97 said:

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Yes. Conservatives also wanted a successful Obama presidency. The problem is Conservatives knew Obama's presidency would not be successful and the know Biden's will be worse.

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This is true. I didn't vote for Obama, but after the election I believed he could unite the country and reduce racial injustice. Then he proceeded, in what seemed a methodical effort, to increase racial strife further dividing the country. Very disconcerting, I believe he set back racial justice decades.

Then he implemented the ACA illegally after consulting almost exclusively insurance companies. Surprise costs skyrocketed and care declined.

I truly had some hope for success in some areas by Obama who instead methodically implemented Chicago style cronyism and corruption.

richardag said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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Yes. Conservatives also wanted a successful Obama presidency. The problem is Conservatives knew Obama's presidency would not be successful and the know Biden's will be worse.

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This is true. I didn't vote for Obama, but after the election I believed he could unite the country and reduce racial injustice. Then he proceeded, in what seemed a methodical effort, to increase racial strife further dividing the country. Very disconcerting, I believe he set back racial justice decades.

Then he implemented the ACA illegally after consulting almost exclusively insurance companies. Surprise costs skyrocketed and care declined.

I truly had some hope for success in some areas by Obama who instead methodically implemented Chicago style cronyism and corruption.

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Exactly. And now history repeats itself in the sense that I am hoping maybe we get some of the old Biden that objected to abandoning Iraq in a way that let ISIL be created and some other stances, but believe it is far too likely he will be the puppet of the malignant Obama and Jarrett agenda.

Ags4DaWin said:

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TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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question- was america not peaceful and prosperous enough under Trump?

Record low black unemployment
ISIS destroyed
Pulling troops out of the middle east
No military engagements involving troops
Stopping chemical weapons use in Syria
Arab countries normalizing relations with Israel
Record stock market numbers
Manufacturing being brought back to America
Decrease in drug and human trafficking at the southern border
Lower taxes for all Americans

If this is your definition of peace and prosperity then yeah.

But we had this under a Trump administration where the media and the dems and half of the republican party were trying to obstruct him at every turn and he was only able to push through half of his policies.

If Biden is different than Trump than how do you think his policies are going to improve on that?

If Biden accomplishes all that and more then yeah, great.

But socialism, corruption, pedophilia, cronyism, and blackmailing foreign governments for personal enrichment usually does not accomplish all that.

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What is sad is Democrats, including Biden will make every effort to claim they are responsible for all those President Trump's administration's successes. Then if they implement the DNC policies and tank the economy, suppress freedom of speech, instigated racial injustice and turn a blind eye to riots and unrest (as they are currently doing) they will blame President Trump's administration.

Pelosi, Schumer, bag of Schiff and many in the Democratic Party leadership have no ethics nor morals.

Further, a good block of the CA Democrats are probably direct pawns of China.

Ag_of_08 said:

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I'm a fiscal conservative, generally very libertarian, who can't stand either party because they're raging fiscal liberals with authoritarian issues.

If you're asking if I want to see a successful Biden administration by HIS standards, then no, I want his policies to fail miserably and make the idiots realize how useless liberalism is.

If your asking do I want him to suddenly become fiscally conservative, socially libertarian and have what I would consider a successful presidency with America wealthy, bolstering our neighbors economies because were doing so well, with a fleet of vessels headed for Mars at the first possible transfer window to start a colony? Yeah, I damned well do, but it's not going to happen.

I'd elect the poor mental patient I gave a blanket and a hamburger earlier tonight if they could pull that off. Course I also respect that man more than I do Biden/Trump/Harris/Pence sooo...

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Do you even watch the Expanse? The first thing that happens when we colonize Mars is they will turn their hatred on us, build up their naval space fleet, and wage wars on us.

TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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Given his policies and those of his choice for VP, a conservative would have to hope he fails miserably. Nothing either of them want would result in "...the health and well-being of our country."

TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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Flagged for trolling.

OP knows damned well how the libs treated the president the last four years while the US has been prosperous and peaceful. In fact, only ones not peaceful were the libs. The libs clearly place party over prosperity. This is either an obvious troll attempt, seeing as how OP hasn't returned for further discussion , or OP is genuinely afraid of an equal response from conservatives over the next few years. I'm going with troll job.

If they steal the Senate, equal response would be appropriate, probably even necessary to blunt attempted tyranny.

esteban said:

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Trump will be the first president since at least ww2 with net negative job growth during his presidency. It's hard to do worse than that.

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This might be one of the stupidest takes i've ever seen on Texags.
And that's saying a lot.

BTKAG97 said:

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Yes. Conservatives also wanted a successful Obama presidency. The problem is Conservatives knew Obama's presidency would not be successful and the know Biden's will be worse.

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In stark contrast to the lefty crazies that actively rooted for Trumps failure. Wasn't it Bill Maher who said he hoped for a recession just to spite Trump?

Ag_of_08 said:

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I'm a fiscal conservative, generally very libertarian, who can't stand either party because they're raging fiscal liberals with authoritarian issues.

If you're asking if I want to see a successful Biden administration by HIS standards, then no, I want his policies to fail miserably and make the idiots realize how useless liberalism is.

If your asking do I want him to suddenly become fiscally conservative, socially libertarian and have what I would consider a successful presidency with America wealthy, bolstering our neighbors economies because were doing so well, with a fleet of vessels headed for Mars at the first possible transfer window to start a colony? Yeah, I damned well do, but it's not going to happen.

I'd elect the poor mental patient I gave a blanket and a hamburger earlier tonight if they could pull that off. Course I also respect that man more than I do Biden/Trump/Harris/Pence sooo...

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This

esteban said:

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Trump will be the first president since at least ww2 with net negative job growth during his presidency. It's hard to do worse than that.

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You aren't really this naive, are you?

If like him to fail miserably in implementing his socialist agenda.

Define successful Biden administration. If you mean the Bernie agenda gets implemented, then F no! If you mean a prosperous America where the presidents agenda doesn't get implemented, then F yeah!

TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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We won't get a prosperous and peaceful America with Biden or Harris in the White House ever. They are fundamentally trying to change our country. So this is a ridiculous question. It's not possible.

It's just gonna be a grit your teeth and try to get through it and pray they don't **** up things too badly before 2024. We lose these races in Georgia we're really screwed. And I have no doubt that they're already committing fraud there. They've flat out said they are.

Successful enough to keep the economy rolling.

Unsuccessful enough to get ousted in 4.

Don't want a Biden administration. Successful or not.

I'd be happy

if we could get this vaccine out ASAP
Fixing some crumbling infrastructure
Sure-up of domestic manufacturing

I would rejoice if he were successful, but not successful by his standards. My thoughts align with those of Ag of 08.

titan said:

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richardag said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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Yes. Conservatives also wanted a successful Obama presidency. The problem is Conservatives knew Obama's presidency would not be successful and the know Biden's will be worse.

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This is true. I didn't vote for Obama, but after the election I believed he could unite the country and reduce racial injustice. Then he proceeded, in what seemed a methodical effort, to increase racial strife further dividing the country. Very disconcerting, I believe he set back racial justice decades.

Then he implemented the ACA illegally after consulting almost exclusively insurance companies. Surprise costs skyrocketed and care declined.

I truly had some hope for success in some areas by Obama who instead methodically implemented Chicago style cronyism and corruption.

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Exactly. And now history repeats itself in the sense that I am hoping maybe we get some of the old Biden that objected to abandoning Iraq in a way that let ISIL be created and some other stances, but believe it is far too likely he will be the puppet of the malignant Obama and Jarrett agenda.

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I give it about a 1% chance that he is not a puppet, sadly.

polarice said:

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I'd be happy

if we could get this vaccine out ASAP
Fixing some crumbling infrastructure
Sure-up of domestic manufacturing

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The vaccine is being put out as fast as possible, something you can thank President Trump for. Crumbling infrastructure fixed? You mean like those "shovel ready" jobs that Obama promised, where each job cost the American taxpayer around 200K? And Biden's policies are not the kind that encourage job growth; quite the opposite. He wants to eliminate petroleum, which also means all of the by-products that come from petroleum, which number in the thousands. Do you think that will promote job growth domestically? More than likely it will push more jobs offshore..

Conservatives don't deal in fantasy. Next question please.

TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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I would love a prosperous and peaceful and America. I'm including personal liberty as part of the prosperous bit.

Do not see any path whatsoever for the policies Biden espoused on the campaign trail result in that.

Dr. Mephisto said:

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TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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Not a loaded question at all.

Not one bit.

A totally on-the-level question that any self respecting "journalist" today would be proud to ask.

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Of course it was a loaded question. It was intended to be.

The subtext was kind of fundamental, 'do people prefer being happy or prefer being right?'

It appears that that most prefer neither. They just want to be angry.

TxAgswin said:

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Dr. Mephisto said:

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TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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Not a loaded question at all.

Not one bit.

A totally on-the-level question that any self respecting "journalist" today would be proud to ask.

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Of course it was a loaded question. It was intended to be.

The subtext was kind of fundamental, 'do people prefer being happy or prefer being right?'

It appears that that most prefer neither. They just want to be angry.

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I much prefer being happy. And how is having less economic freedom going to contribute to my happiness? And not just economic freedom. Hell, the left is down to even rewriting our language.

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"Thanks to the leadership of Chairman McGovern and our Members, Democrats have crafted a package of unprecedented, bold reforms, which will make the House more accountable, transparent and effective in our work to meet the needs of the American people," Pelosi said.

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Please enlighten me as to how rearranging gender terminology is going to make the House more accountable, transparent, and effective. Surely there are more important things to be working on than stupidity such as this.

Everywhere you turn these days they left are always changing something that has worked perfectly fine, to suit their end goal, which is absolute power and they don't care what it takes to get there. Quite the opposite of transparency, they want to obfuscate and muddy the water everywhere you turn. Nobody who is working on bad things wants to be seen in the light of day, they like things murky and confusing where one doesn't know up from down.

I'm too old to just care about being right. I have learned one golden rule in my life above everything else, and that is humility. It does me no good to jump and pout, scream, or pitch a fit because I'm not "right." Most sane people learn this as they grow older. We just want to be left alone to pursue our dreams, but the left as it is today doesn't want to allow even that. Everything has to be in your face, submit, bow down, and don't just accept things - you must actively engage and act as if you're a character straight out of the novel 1984.

The left wants to indoctrinate everyone. It started out with the seemingly innocuous word, "tolerance" but has evolved/morphed into submission and subjugation if not outright worship of things that you hold dearly but we find offensive or disagree with.

Take abortion for example. It is a centerpiece of the leftist's agenda, it's a religion to the left and they have no room or tolerance for any other views besides that they hold near and dear. "My body/my choice," which is the epitome of hypocrisy because there is one other body involved: that of the unborn child. I could go on and on forever citing the hypocritical and sometimes downright evil tactics that progressives use to obtain their goals, but I think you get the point.

You can get a peaceful and successful term in office for Biden or you can have the health and well-being of our country. One is the antithesis to the other.

TxAgswin said:

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This is a hypothetical.

Would you prefer a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden Whitehouse or is party affiliation more important to you than the health and well=being of our country?

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affiliation has nothing to do with it. I don't want him to implement Soros' policies that he ran on.

1. I don't want socialism.
2. I don't want five million immigrants from terrorist nations.
3. don't want my taxes to go up due to fake global warming.
4. I don't want high school boys and girls showering with each other.
5. I want police protection

The list goes on and on and on.

He ran on socialism/far left policies from taxes, property confiscation (not just guns), healthcare, green energy, immigration, crime, and foreign policy (whatever Hunter wants basically), that I see as antithetical to American values/success.

Frick no I don't want him or his backers 'to succeed' by any definition we could agree on. I'd rather see a group of states secede.

paperback,

Great post. You are a major new addition that has snuck up with quality posts.

That one is excellent worded.

This in particular:

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Everywhere you turn these days they left are always changing something that has worked perfectly fine, to suit their end goal, which is absolute power and they don't care what it takes to get there. Quite the opposite of transparency, they want to obfuscate and muddy the water everywhere you turn. Nobody who is working on bad things wants to be seen in the light of day, they like things murky and confusing where one doesn't know up from down.

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Very, very insightful and dead-on correct. You have zeroed in on how Leftists wreck language to ruin culture.

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I'm too old to just care about being right. I have learned one golden rule in my life above everything else, and that is humility. It does me no good to jump and pout, scream, or pitch a fit because I'm not "right." Most sane people learn this as they grow older. We just want to be left alone to pursue our dreams, but the left as it is today doesn't want to allow even that. Everything has to be in your face, submit, bow down, and don't just accept things - you must actively engage and act as if you're a character straight out of the novel 1984.

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Exactly, and will not abide it. 1984 is the most contra-American thing and methods imaginable and is worth opposing. Its so bad its the one thing that makes even Muslim victory secondary by comparison. There is very little worse than the Orwellian Left. Anything opposed to that is worth supporting and that's what many of the opposition didn't get about Trump support. He was willing to fight it. That was enough as a start, and he did pretty good considering all the headwinds.

BMX Bandit said:

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I want a prosperous and peaceful America in a Biden White House

But if Biden is successful in implementing his policies, we won't have a prosperous or peaceful America.

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This.