I Have Spoken said:
Well, since Trump is about to be out of office... does this mean we can start fairly evaluating things again?
Great point. I've worked in the environmental field for over 30 years and PPE is very selective to the contaminant that you are exposed to. Wearing, handling, storing all these face diapers with no thought of real training might as well be strolling around without it.score4OU said:
Yes.
Having 326.7 million people wear masks made out of old sweaters and granny panties, while 326 million of these people have no PPE training other than "masks work for other peoples protection", what could go wrong?
This is clearly observable. Go to any large park. All the people wearing a mask think that the mask makes their activity safe. Never mind the fact that walking the loop at memorial park will have you passing 100s of people.Get Off My Lawn said:
I'm certain that masks grant many people an increased sense of security which then results in riskier behavior. I wouldn't at all be surprised if this more than offsets any good that the masks MAY provide by reducing the distance traveled by coughed/sneezed particles when properly worn by a symptomatic contagious person who goes out in public...
I think going through the gas chamber should be a mandatory requirement for HS Graduation.Get Off My Lawn said:
Anyone who has had CS gas exposure implicitly understands that a cloud of viruses infected droplets aren't stopped by a cloth mask. They're going around (or through) the mask as you breathe in and they're going in through the eyes.
I don't believe for a second that the wearer is decreasing their chances by even 50%. Decrease the dose? Sure. But prevent exposure where you otherwise would have contracted it? No way.
You've tangentially touched on the finer point I've been raising since the CoronaKarens started going ape **** about masks: that little doodad you carry in your pocket and touch literally all the time is filthy. I've never seen a single official or busybody recommend that you clean it with any frequency. Just hit the 'ol handi-crapper, pull down the mask, do your business, send a few texts, put it back in your pocket, pretend the mask protected you.Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Great point. I've worked in the environmental field for over 30 years and PPE is very selective to the contaminant that you are exposed to. Wearing, handling, storing all these face diapers with no thought of real training might as well be strolling around without it.score4OU said:
Yes.
Having 326.7 million people wear masks made out of old sweaters and granny panties, while 326 million of these people have no PPE training other than "masks work for other peoples protection", what could go wrong?
So someone washes their hands for 15 seconds or grabs that sanitizer bottle that has been rolling around in their car or purse. Right after that, they touch 10 surfaces that could have any number of contact points and go right back to grabbing at their cloth or 99 cent mask..
Go to the grocery store and watch people paw at their masks and then touch everything around them. But it is going to save society to shut down restaurant capacity or limit outside gatherings for tiny virus particles.
Rapier108 said:
Security theater, nothing more, just like the TSA.
Actually, masks are more worthless than the TSA.
The Fife said:
I absolutely agree if only because it ends up making me touch my face all the time to adjust / remove / put on / do whatever with the dumb thing.
puryear94 said:
What about South Korea? Over 50 million people tightly packed together wearing masks with half the number of cases as San Antonio.
The major outbreaks they have had were in locations where masks were ignored.
rocky the dog said:
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Could mask mandates actually be making things worse?
Here are two instances, the first of which accounts for almost 10% of all Korean infections:Cassius said:puryear94 said:
What about South Korea? Over 50 million people tightly packed together wearing masks with half the number of cases as San Antonio.
The major outbreaks they have had were in locations where masks were ignored.
There is no evidence of the bolded.
As far as asian countries, there are other possibilities.
I could post about 1000 studies, one done recently with covid folks, that show no evidence of mask mitigation, but you won't believe it. So continue on in your bliss.
MaroonStain said:
INB4 - "Do you wear pants in public?" argument
Helicopter Ben said:
I'm experiencing the same thing. My wife and I decided to move out to a small town in Utah for the ski season. We figured that would be the least likely place to be affected by this nonsense. Of course right on cue before the resorts opened, we move to a state of emergency. At least Utah's governor didn't shut down bars and restaurants though.
Anyhow, they're super strict about masks in the lift lines. Most are friendly about it and say it's in hopes of not getting shut down. I pull my worthless face diaper up just for this part and almost immediately my nose starts to run a little and minor sniffles from breathing so much warm moisture right back into my face. As soon as I'm on the lift I pull it off and everything starts to dry up.
I despise this **** and legitimately worry the mask is far more likely to make me sick...and I've been conscious of how disgusting people are since high school. Washing my hands and avoiding touching things other people touch that aren't necessary.
