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According to the documents, released Monday in a state defamation case brought by Dominion's security director Eric Coomer, the Trump campaign prepared an internal memo on November 14 at deputy communications director Zach Parkinson's request that debunked multiple fraud allegations involving Dominion.

The campaign memo debunked claims alleging Dominion and its leadership had ties to Venezuela and "left wing 'antifa' activists," and that Dominion had used voting technology from rival voting machine Smartmatic, whose machines were also involved in election fraud claims.

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Just under two weeks after the election? The only information the campaign would have access to was publicly reported material. No deep dive happening there. (Not saying there is a direct connection between Smartmatic, Hugo Chavez, Venezuela and Dominion, nor that Coomer had connections to Antifa.)

Being unable to corroborate is not exactly the same as "debunking" as Team Mueller proved with the Russia, Russia, Russia Steele Dossier. After ten months of a deep dive, the FBI couldn't corroborate any of Steele's assertions either but they never considered that fact to be a "debunking."

What is a direct connection is Diebold to ES&S, to Dominion. Foreign owned Sequoia to American management team to Dominion. Dominion still services (through a contractor) Diebold era electronic voting machines in the Northeast as well as other locations. Diebold did a name change to Premier Voting Systems after the 2004 election. Thereafter they were acquired by ES&S and then the Holder Justice Department ordered ES&S to divest themselves of 1/3 of their business to Dominion in 2010. Dominion had to reincorporate in Delaware and open an office in Denver to be able to get that chunk of the electronic voting business.

Even today, no one really knows who owns Dominion. Just that it is a private equity firm.

Romney was interested in acquiring a chunk of Hart Intercivic at one time as well. These electronic voting systems are all in private hands, very rich private hands.

Outsourcing our elections to them has been a disaster.

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Would like to read the internal memo, but refuse to sign up with the New York Times. Is there a different link with the memo?

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All the links I've found link back to the NYT link, which is here for the memo (not the story):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/09/21/us/trump-campaign-memo.html

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Will not join the New York Times, if possible need an alternate link.

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Well, here's Forbes talking about the memo (you can't cut and paste from the NYT copy of the memo or I'd do that for you):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/09/21/trump-campaign-knew-dominion-fraud-claims-were-false-memo-reportedly-shows-but-giuliani-still-pushed-them/?sh=783eec48364a

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According to the documents, released Monday in a state defamation case brought by Dominion's security director Eric Coomer, the Trump campaign prepared an internal memo on November 14 at deputy communications director Zach Parkinson's request that debunked multiple fraud allegations involving Dominion.

The campaign memo debunked claims alleging Dominion and its leadership had ties to Venezuela and "left wing 'antifa' activists," and that Dominion had used voting technology from rival voting machine Smartmatic, whose machines were also involved in election fraud claims.

Less than a week later, Giuliani and far-right attorney Sidney Powell, who Giuliani said in a deposition were acting as "active supervisors" of the Trump campaign's post-election legal challenges, pushed those same fraud claims about Dominion at a televised press conference at the Republican National Committee, in which they falsely alleged widespread election fraud and tied Dominion to Venezuela.

Giuliani said in a deposition cited in the court documents he was unaware of the memo before his press conference and suggested the staffers that prepared it "wanted Trump to lose because they could raise more money," the Times reports.
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Coomer's defamation lawsuit, which was brought in Colorado state court against the Trump campaign, Powell, Giuliani and other right-wing defendants, is one of numerous Dominion-led legal challenges seeking restitution for the Trump allies' fraud claims. Dominion as a company has also filed defamation suits against Giuliani, Powell, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, Fox News, Newsmax, One America News Network and former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne for spreading the election fraud claims involving their voting machines, which they allege have caused their company and its employees substantial harm. Coomer has already settled with Newsmax and has dropped the network from his litigation, and the network issued a statement acknowledging its voter fraud claims involving Coomer are untrue. Both Giuliani and Powell have also already faced consequences for their fraud claims: Giuliani's law license has been suspended in New York and Washington, D.C., and Powell and her co-counsel were sanctioned in a Michigan case alleging fraud, which includes paying attorneys fees, mandatory legal education and being referred to the State Bar of Texas for potential disciplinary action or disbarment.
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Wouldn't jest at that one. It was another company, was it Smartmatic? not sure. That CNN, as left as they come, exposed in 2006 (long before Obama or Trump skewed politics so much) playing a role in Chavez's election.

But it wasn't Dominion.

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Yeah, you're right I was jesting.

I agree with your point earlier about when the campaign cut ties with Powell.

Not knowing who owns them may be more than enough reason to drive them out of any voting processes. That means there is no way to see if they are run by the CCP.

Second, as you recall, long before the extremely skewed politics of the Obama era, and the Trump one that was reaction to it, the MSM itself indicted voting machines in both Chavez's election, and Diebold in Bush's in 2004.

From what have seen sense, am willing to spot Kerry a possible win in 2004. Would not dismiss it. The parallel in timing to the Chavez rise and the availability of those machines at least circumstantially supports it.

Here it is if anyone wants to read it.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-campaign-memo/f7b2de7129fe91b2/full.pdf

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Not knowing who owns them may be more than enough reason to drive them out of any voting processes. That means there is no way to see if they are run by the CCP.

Second, as you recall, long before the extremely skewed politics of the Obama era, and the Trump one that was reaction to it, the MSM itself indicted voting machines in both Chavez's election, and Diebold in Bush's in 2004.

From what have seen sense, am willing to spot Kerry a possible win in 2004. Would not dismiss it. The parallel in timing to the Chavez rise and the availability of those machines at least circumstantially supports it.

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Fully agree that Bush's "win" in 2004 was suspicious, in hindsight. At that time, Diebold was fully electronic, no paper trail. Proving fraud under those circumstances would have been a very difficult task.

But as I said, Diebold didn't go away. They changed their name to Premier and then were acquired by ES&S and then in turn by Dominion. There are still Premier machines in use in several locations within the US. Dominion services those through contractors. One such contractor handles them throughout the Northeast, for example.

And yes, a CFIUS review of the owners of each electronic voting system company should be conducted every two years in my view. It was one such CFIUS inquiry that led to Sequoia being acquired by Dominion.

Also there was a point in time when more than one voting system company had incorporated in the Bahamas. Reason why that happened is unclear to me.

Finally, Dominion had the contract in Chicago during the 2014-2016 elections. There were some problems and Dominion "dispatched" their "experts" to Chicago to fix the problems. Most of the team, ironically, came in from Venezuela, according to reports at the time. Those reports have since been memory holed.

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Further, there will be some interesting discovery issues if he goes through with it. Will have to be a carefully crafted complaint not to open the doors to Dominion itself

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Nobody is afraid of discovery, Powell could have named Dominion in any of her suits but avoided it for some reason.

The Superman 3/Skynet/election heist didn't happen.

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Not knowing who owns them may be more than enough reason to drive them out of any voting processes. That means there is no way to see if they are run by the CCP.

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Let's come back to this for a second. I also think there should be a requirement that all electronic voting machines be manufactured within the US and not in China.

Even in Britain is unacceptable. Along with this unverified business of `votes counted in Germany' -- never learned if that was true.

But is irrelevant. EVERYTHING related to voting in the U.S. should be manufactured here. Period. Total transparency of ownership and profits.

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Even in Britain is unacceptable. Along with this unverified business of `votes counted in Germany' -- never learned if that was true.

But is irrelevant. EVERYTHING related to voting in the U.S. should be manufactured here. Period. Total transparency of ownership and profits.

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That SCYTL business was confusing to me. Without looking at routers connected to voting machines or the EMS server, how can that be detected was my main question. I mean the NSA probably knows but how would private individuals in the US know that? (EMS means Election Management System.)

But I will say the original denials about SCYTL involvement were less than convincing since they were misleading and not totally truthful. First they said they didn't even have an office in Frankfurt. Their website said they did, for instance.

Is the situation where the CIA and our special forces were fighting each other with casualties on both sides for a server in Germany that ended up in Powell and Rudy's hands?

And other such total nonsense.

The BIG story to me was as ever simpler --- if ANY VOTES at ALL were counted outside the U.S. under any scenario, that is extremely suspect.

So the whole idea of getting into details of `who' never mattered. There should be no outside access whatsoever. Not even outside that voting office block, let alone city, state, and outside the country.

So the real interest was if any of that was true. Not the server claptrap.

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Here it is if anyone wants to read it.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-campaign-memo/f7b2de7129fe91b2/full.pdf

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Thanks for the link. Skimmed it but seems most of the repudiations were direct statements from the companies themselves published in newspapers. Appears there were a lot of interactions between companies.

Media is great about zinger headlines when the actual facts don't back it up. Since you took the time to post here as a gotcha, why don't you post the incriminating quotes from the depo? And this is coming from someone that isn't a Rudy fanboy.

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Even today, no one really knows who owns Dominion. Just that it is a private equity firm.

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I applaud Patrick Gaspard's leadership of the Open Society Foundations in a world beset by illiberalism. Mark Malloch-Brown will be Open Society's new president. He is deeply familiar with its work and shares my vision of philanthropy. https://t.co/DdJk1z3Cq2

— George Soros (@georgesoros) December 4, 2020

https://noqreport.com/2020/12/05/george-soros-names-smartmatics-lord-mark-malloch-brown-as-president-of-open-society/

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/who-we-are/global-board/member/mark-malloch-brown

Notice all election work has been wiped from Lord Mark's profile on Soros site.

Lawyers even forced Newsmax to issue statement saying "Smartmatic has no relationship with George Soros." Even though Smartmatics top man brags about the long and close relationship:

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I know the word "Soros" is a dog whistle for libs to cry "baseless conspiracy theory". The amount of money spent and media effort to cover up obvious Soros ties to election software/hardware firms is unbelievable.

Soros' bought and paid for Maricopa county Sheriff Paul Penzone who blocked cyber Ninjas access to routers that prove Dominion machines were connected to internet.

In a related case, Smartmatic sued a list of people in NY state court, all moved to dismiss.

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A New York state judge on Tuesday said Smartmatic can pursue its $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit claiming that Fox News Network, Rudolph Giuliani and others falsely accused the electronic voting systems maker of helping rig the 2020 U.S. presidential election to favor Democrat Joe Biden.

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Without ruling on the merits, Cohen found a "substantial basis" for the claim that Fox News "turned a blind eye to a litany of outrageous claims about Smartmatic, unprecedented in the history of American elections, so inherently improbable that it evinced a reckless disregard for the truth."

In a 61-page decision, Cohen said Giuliani's "barrage" of criticism, including that Smartmatic fixed elections in Venezuela and was up to its "old tricks" on election night, justified letting some claims against him proceed.

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case can proceed against Fox, Guliani, Bartimromo and Dobbs

case dismissed against Pirro as not defamatory and against Powell for no jurisdiction in NY

Powell has her own problems to deal with, including the state bar in Texas.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/texas-bar-v-powell-complaint-dallas-county.pdf

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https://www.rcfp.org/colorado-anti-slapp-protections/

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Exactly. They need to nonsuit everyone and refile in Federal court pronto if they expect the case to have a chance.

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they ignored your advice.

state court judge denies motions to dismiss under CO anti-SLAPP law:


story:

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/05/13/dominion-defamation-lawsuit-upheld/

order:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22014756-motion-to-dismiss-ruling-coomer-defamation-case

Wow, did. It see that coming. Do you think the lawsuit will survive a motion for summary judgment?

on what issue? given coomer has put on prima facie evidence of malice, don't see how defendants win summary judgment on that. on falsity, the defendants didn't even try to show what they said was true. if they can prove it was true during the case, they could win on that, but don't see it.

appeallate court upholds the non-dismissal of the case. it means he showed he is "reasonably likely to sustain a favorable judgment" after trial against trump campaign and others.



OPINION

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/colorado-politics/ex-dominion-executive-defamation-claims-may-proceed-against-trump-campaign/article_15eb51fd-901b-5304-810c-d0af6f6847b5.html

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Moses deemed Oltmann's story of the antifa call "wholly incredible" and determined the other defendants could be faulted for not entertaining serious doubts about the reliability of his allegations. She also agreed there was "a straight line" that could be drawn from Oltmann's commentary to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters.

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Wait...what? How is this defamation claim directly related to Jan 6th?

Coomer, Dominion CEO and CEO of Pro V&V had already been found not credible by Totenberg before the election in October 2020. They had filed false affidavits that each had to recant when on the stand.

Dominion not only scrubbed their website but also the training videos they had used for workers in the 2020 elections, most involving Coomer, from the internet after the election.

The Antifa phone call stuff was always sketchy and needed additional corroboration, in my view. But Coomer can be shown to have lied under oath before.

the claims against the trump campaign that survive are statements made by giuliani and powell which are imputed to the campaign because they are its agents:

giuliani:

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[O]ne of the Smartmatic patent holders, Eric Coomer I believe his name is, is on the web as being recorded in a conversation with Antifa members, saying that he had the election rigged for Mr. Biden. Nothing to worry about here. And he was going to they were going to "F" Trump. His social media is filled with hatred for the President, and for the United States of America as a whole . . . .

B]y the way, the Coomer character, who is close to Antifa, took off all of his social media. Ah-ah, but we kept it, we've got it. The man is a vicious, vicious man . . . and he specifically says that they're going to fix this election. . . . This is real. It is not made up. [T]here's nobody here that engages in fantasies. I've tried a hundred cases. I've prosecuted some of the most dangerous criminals in the world. I know crimes. I can smell them. You don't have to smell this one. I can prove it to you eighteen different ways. . . .

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Carr: Let me ask you about this guy Eric Coomer. He works for Dominion . . . . He's the one who was allegedly . . . on a conference call or something, a Zoom with Antifa. And he said, supposedly, don't worry about Trump, I've already made sure he's going to lose the election. Is that true, for starters?

Powell: Yes.

Carr: It's true. You have that?

Powell: It's true. We have an affidavit to that effect and I think we have a copy of the call.

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Powell announced, "We've got Eric Coomer . . . admitting on tape that he rigged the election for Biden and hated Trump. We've got their social media posts. We've got all kinds of evidence that is mathematically irrefutable."

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Was Powell paid by the Trump campaign to act as it agent?

Going to remain skeptical of that source since he has a sketchy past (conviction for fraud and prison time).

BUT there are no computer election security experts that are willing to say that Dominion Voting Systems software is A-okay, outside of Dem operatives such as Ryan Macias. He approved Dominion when he was head of EAC. He is just checking his own "work" at this point.

Every other expert who had varying degrees of access to Dominion's software and system files have pronounced it highly insecure, very flawed and easily subject to tampering...by design. Dominion was an obscure Canadian company when they were selected by the Holder DOJ to receive the consent decree's order to Es&S to divest one third of its business to them.

Further now that we know CISA was compromised by government censorship and lied about the integrity of the 2020 election, their assessments are suspect as well. When A.J. Halderman's report (redacted) was finally sent to them, CISA issued an immediate alert as to the multiple security issues with Dominion, few Sec of States reacted. Just ignored the alert..

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Was Powell paid by the Trump campaign to act as it agent?

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i doubt it, but payment is not a requirement of agency. also, not relevant at this stage. for anti-slapp motion, the plaintiff just has to make a prima facie case.

whether powell was actually a an agent will definitely be a factual issue for a trial or summary judgment. trump campaign can probably prove she was not an agent for campaign (she says she was not)

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She was a member for 9 days but once she started her Kraken nonsense, she was set aside.

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so: she was a part of his "legal team" in the beginning, but that did not last long

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The allegation that Eric Croomer was on an Antifa organizational Zoom call was made on Michele Malkin's Twitter account in a video interview with Joe Oltmann, who was as I recall an IT entrepreneur based out of Denver.

Unsurprisingly, Twitter banned this guy, Oltmann, who said he overheard Croomer saying that Croomer was with Dominion and would make sure the election was fixed so Trump could not win.

https://twitter.com/JoeOltmann

So, in the Soviet States of America, we cannot relive the past where allegations were made.

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In Coomer's lawsuit against Oltmann a federal judge has held Oltmann in contempt for refusing to answer questions about this call.

$1k/day until he answers.

https://www.coloradopols.com/diary/205308/americas-hangmans-antifa-amnesia-just-got-very-expensive