TX sues GA, MI, WI, and PA at Supreme Court

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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Given the current outcry over voting integrity, I want to put in my two cents about election security in Texas. For the record, we do in person early voting. We choose in person versus mail-in for which we are eligible, primarily due to signature matching on a signature which has been on file for 40+ years. Yes, your signature does change over time.

My big beef is that the electronic voting machines where we reside(Harris County) does not produce a paper confirmation for later verification. This is something I feel strongly about(and have ever since the electronic voting machines were introduced). Even though there is a confirmation screen, a paper record is needed to drop in a ballot box that can be audited in close races.

For the record, when I voted my photo ID and address were checked against to voter roles; I was given a fingertip protective covering and signed on a digital screen. Good luck doing a signature match. Told the poll worker that I should have just signed with an X. He laughed and sent me along.
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John Maplethorpe said:

ttu_85 said:

John Maplethorpe said:

This would be a great precedent - states go around reversing other states elections based on narrow legal technicalities in how they were operated.
Bawahahahaahaha. Please quote CNN again for us and how supercomputers stole the election


Oh you mean the article(not from CNN) debunking the myth not endorsing it. You were utterly confused through the whole thread - thinking Georgia's ballots were counted electronically at touchscreens. When you finally figured out you had no idea how anything worked you name called and quit.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3163659/last#last


Debunking - the word that leftist elites use to dismiss another persons' facts. That's what you do. You dismiss. It's NOT a good trait. It shows a lack of empathy. It shows a lack of care or desire to understand another's opinions. This is what the left does. Hillary is. Perfect example. Pelosi. Harris. This is what they do.
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So what harm does the suit say Texas (the state or on behalf of the people?) suffered?
It's probably been said already, but look at the equal protection laws.
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Well anyone who goes fishing for Redfish is cute in my book.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

MASAXET said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

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There is video of impropriety in GA.
PA violated their own constitution.

This just can't be waved away as nothing.

What's embarrassing is that ANY American would not want a full and reasonable explanation. There is no way Fulton County can tell everyone to leave, haul boxes of ballots out from under a covered table, then dump about 100,000 votes for Biden into the count at 1AM, and that's OK. It's not OK for PA to violate their constitution to enable what everyone knows is the easiest way to cheat. It's not OK to ignore the sworn affidavits of the people who witness impropriety.
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torrid said:

Is thee a real link anywhere?
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf
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WHOOP!'91 said:

MASAXET said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

embarrassing for our state.


Please stop complaining and leave Texas for a liberal utopia like Portland.
The bill of complaint actually is embarrassing because it is way more PR stunt than anything substantive. It's essentially an amalgamation of already raised (and rejected) claims, which is one reason it is extremely unlikely the court will grant the motion for leave.

Even granting the legitimacy of certain arguments, such as the electors clause arguments, the actual pleading is written more like a press release than a legitimate legal filing, as it includes scores of outlandish, nonsensical, and frankly irrelevant assertions and "statistical" arguments.

It is somewhat hard to imagine a case in which a state brings legitimate elections claims against another state, although probably not impossible. However, this is not one of those examples.

And as someone else mentioned, it is probably very telling that Kyle Hawkins is not on the pleading.
There is video of impropriety in GA.
PA violated their own constitution.

This just can't be waved away as nothing.

What's embarrassing is that ANY American would not want a full and reasonable explanation. There is no way Fulton County can tell everyone to leave, haul boxes of ballots out from under a covered table, then dump about 100,000 votes for Biden into the count at 1AM, and that's OK. It's not OK for PA to violate their constitution to enable what everyone knows is the easiest way to cheat. It's not OK to ignore the sworn affidavits of the people who witness impropriety.


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia. To keep believing in it means you have to involve them in the conspiracy, which you're free to do, but it's crazy.
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John Maplethorpe said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

MASAXET said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

embarrassing for our state.


Please stop complaining and leave Texas for a liberal utopia like Portland.
The bill of complaint actually is embarrassing because it is way more PR stunt than anything substantive. It's essentially an amalgamation of already raised (and rejected) claims, which is one reason it is extremely unlikely the court will grant the motion for leave.

Even granting the legitimacy of certain arguments, such as the electors clause arguments, the actual pleading is written more like a press release than a legitimate legal filing, as it includes scores of outlandish, nonsensical, and frankly irrelevant assertions and "statistical" arguments.

It is somewhat hard to imagine a case in which a state brings legitimate elections claims against another state, although probably not impossible. However, this is not one of those examples.

And as someone else mentioned, it is probably very telling that Kyle Hawkins is not on the pleading.
There is video of impropriety in GA.
PA violated their own constitution.

This just can't be waved away as nothing.

What's embarrassing is that ANY American would not want a full and reasonable explanation. There is no way Fulton County can tell everyone to leave, haul boxes of ballots out from under a covered table, then dump about 100,000 votes for Biden into the count at 1AM, and that's OK. It's not OK for PA to violate their constitution to enable what everyone knows is the easiest way to cheat. It's not OK to ignore the sworn affidavits of the people who witness impropriety.


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia. To keep believing in it means you have to involve them in the conspiracy, which you're free to do, but it's crazy.
When has anyone said here that Republicans are immune from investigation? Investigate any and all fraud and punish those perpetrating it, regardless of party.
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John Maplethorpe said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

MASAXET said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

embarrassing for our state.


Please stop complaining and leave Texas for a liberal utopia like Portland.
The bill of complaint actually is embarrassing because it is way more PR stunt than anything substantive. It's essentially an amalgamation of already raised (and rejected) claims, which is one reason it is extremely unlikely the court will grant the motion for leave.

Even granting the legitimacy of certain arguments, such as the electors clause arguments, the actual pleading is written more like a press release than a legitimate legal filing, as it includes scores of outlandish, nonsensical, and frankly irrelevant assertions and "statistical" arguments.

It is somewhat hard to imagine a case in which a state brings legitimate elections claims against another state, although probably not impossible. However, this is not one of those examples.

And as someone else mentioned, it is probably very telling that Kyle Hawkins is not on the pleading.
There is video of impropriety in GA.
PA violated their own constitution.

This just can't be waved away as nothing.

What's embarrassing is that ANY American would not want a full and reasonable explanation. There is no way Fulton County can tell everyone to leave, haul boxes of ballots out from under a covered table, then dump about 100,000 votes for Biden into the count at 1AM, and that's OK. It's not OK for PA to violate their constitution to enable what everyone knows is the easiest way to cheat. It's not OK to ignore the sworn affidavits of the people who witness impropriety.


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia. To keep believing in it means you have to involve them in the conspiracy, which you're free to do, but it's crazy.
Their "investigation" was faulty as was explained already.

You still haven't answered. Where does the process of adjutication, especially 100,000 votes of 116,000 votes in GA, fit in to your process of a fair computerized vote with no chance of interference?
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schmendeler said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

embarrassing for our state.


Please stop complaining and leave Texas for a liberal utopia like Portland.
no i'd like texas to be great again.
You should gather up your socks and leave then.
NO AMNESTY!

in order for democrats, liberals, progressives et al to continue their illogical belief systems they have to pretend not to know a lot of things; by pretending "not to know" there is no guilt, no actual connection to conscience. Denial of truth allows easier trespass.
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Investigate the hell out of the Republican Georgia Governor and Atty. General please.
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Debunking - the word that leftist elites use to dismiss another persons' facts. That's what you do. You dismiss. It's NOT a good trait. It shows a lack of empathy. It shows a lack of care or desire to understand another's opinions. This is what the left does. Hillary is. Perfect example. Pelosi. Harris. This is what they do.

It was a complete irrefutable humiliating debunking, there's no other word for it. People saw an $18/hr data entry clerk accidentally flub a number on a news feed which got corrected in an hour. People on the internet were convinced they saw proof of the greatest heist in history. The whole thing is hilarious.

They literally thought they were watching a data feed straight from Dominion "servers". That's not how anything works.
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But why? I find this fascinating. He doesn't agree with you so HE should leave? Why not use your star and just ignore him?
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How does Paxton still have a job? He should have been fired long ago.
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and OJ is innocent!!

Preach it!!
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John Maplethorpe said:


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia.
Cool Story


GA Repub: yeah, we saw that stuff and talked to our people, they said she was cool and everything was fine
GA Rebub: So like, stop giving me static broseph
GA Rebub: We totally investigated it that day, you know spent hours, well no, not me personally but people I know and they are totally cool, they said everything was fine

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John Maplethorpe said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

MASAXET said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

embarrassing for our state.


Please stop complaining and leave Texas for a liberal utopia like Portland.
The bill of complaint actually is embarrassing because it is way more PR stunt than anything substantive. It's essentially an amalgamation of already raised (and rejected) claims, which is one reason it is extremely unlikely the court will grant the motion for leave.

Even granting the legitimacy of certain arguments, such as the electors clause arguments, the actual pleading is written more like a press release than a legitimate legal filing, as it includes scores of outlandish, nonsensical, and frankly irrelevant assertions and "statistical" arguments.

It is somewhat hard to imagine a case in which a state brings legitimate elections claims against another state, although probably not impossible. However, this is not one of those examples.

And as someone else mentioned, it is probably very telling that Kyle Hawkins is not on the pleading.
There is video of impropriety in GA.
PA violated their own constitution.

This just can't be waved away as nothing.

What's embarrassing is that ANY American would not want a full and reasonable explanation. There is no way Fulton County can tell everyone to leave, haul boxes of ballots out from under a covered table, then dump about 100,000 votes for Biden into the count at 1AM, and that's OK. It's not OK for PA to violate their constitution to enable what everyone knows is the easiest way to cheat. It's not OK to ignore the sworn affidavits of the people who witness impropriety.


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia. To keep believing in it means you have to involve them in the conspiracy, which you're free to do, but it's crazy.
Gabriel Sterling who is the guy who keeps saying nothing to see here is an avowed NeverTrumper.... yeah we can trust him... puhleeze.... kind of like the lead stories article you brought up 500 times that was completely bogus.
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txag72 said:

Investigate the hell out of the Republican Georgia Governor and Atty. General please.

What if they did nothing wrong and Trump is just lying about elections like he's been doing for decades.
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And 400,000 instant vote swings in VA are also just an $18/hr clerk mistake.
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

torrid said:

Ken Paxton is simply an attention *****, and this bogus lawsuit is both giving him that attention and creating a diversion from his real legal issues.
My understanding is that Paxton is quite a conservative.

Hence the targeting of him.
He's not helping the conservative cause.
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And historical 3% ballot rejection now down to 0.3% this year (a year loaded with mail in ballots). All due to $18/hr clerks. Must have got a raise this year.
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Yeah and SOS investigators. The conspiracy can keep going if you join in hundreds of Republicans all over the country but the train to crazy town is gonna keep losing passengers when the theories get even more insane.
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John Maplethorpe said:

txag72 said:

Investigate the hell out of the Republican Georgia Governor and Atty. General please.

What if they did nothing wrong and Trump is just lying about elections like he's been doing for decades.


What if you are just lying and elections have been corrupt for decades?
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it is not Trump who signed thousands of affidavits.

Thousands of citizens are accusing the election officials of fraud in these precincts
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

And historical 3% ballot rejection now down to 0.3% this year (a year loaded with mail in ballots).

You know these numbers can be checked and verified at the Georgia SOS? You don't have to accept the made up numbers you saw on Twitter.
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JP_Losman said:

it is not Trump who signed thousands of affidavits.

Thousands of citizens are accusing the election officials of fraud in these precincts

I have an affidavit regarding bigfoot. Take it to the FBI or court and see if it survives cross.
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John Maplethorpe said:

This would be a great precedent - states go around reversing other states elections based on narrow legal technicalities in how they were operated.
There's nothing narrow about blatant violations of the law and "changing" election laws illegally. Dems insist on making America a banana republic.
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John Maplethorpe said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

MASAXET said:

thirdcoast said:

schmendeler said:

embarrassing for our state.


Please stop complaining and leave Texas for a liberal utopia like Portland.
The bill of complaint actually is embarrassing because it is way more PR stunt than anything substantive. It's essentially an amalgamation of already raised (and rejected) claims, which is one reason it is extremely unlikely the court will grant the motion for leave.

Even granting the legitimacy of certain arguments, such as the electors clause arguments, the actual pleading is written more like a press release than a legitimate legal filing, as it includes scores of outlandish, nonsensical, and frankly irrelevant assertions and "statistical" arguments.

It is somewhat hard to imagine a case in which a state brings legitimate elections claims against another state, although probably not impossible. However, this is not one of those examples.

And as someone else mentioned, it is probably very telling that Kyle Hawkins is not on the pleading.
There is video of impropriety in GA.
PA violated their own constitution.

This just can't be waved away as nothing.

What's embarrassing is that ANY American would not want a full and reasonable explanation. There is no way Fulton County can tell everyone to leave, haul boxes of ballots out from under a covered table, then dump about 100,000 votes for Biden into the count at 1AM, and that's OK. It's not OK for PA to violate their constitution to enable what everyone knows is the easiest way to cheat. It's not OK to ignore the sworn affidavits of the people who witness impropriety.


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia. To keep believing in it means you have to involve them in the conspiracy, which you're free to do, but it's crazy.
All I heard was "normal ballot processing". That doesn't pass basic observation. Earlier, there was dozens of people in camera view. After Ruby tells everyone they will stop counting for the night - which they don't - there are like 4. Which one of them is the Republican observer? They both said they were told to leave, and did leave. Why did Ruby lie? Why were the ballots under a covered table? Where were the R observers?

So, yeah, I am not buying this "explanation".

Not to mention the PA situation or the 100s of sworn affidavits.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

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pacecar02 said:

John Maplethorpe said:


This was actually investigated by Republican appointed investigators and Republican politicians in Georgia.
Cool Story


GA Repub: yeah, we saw that stuff and talked to our people, they said she was cool and everything was fine
GA Rebub: So like, stop giving me static broseph
GA Rebub: We totally investigated it that day, you know spent hours, well no, not me personally but people I know and they are totally cool, they said everything was fine


Here's the GA "investigation".



Three players, GA SOS, GA election people, and the American public. You know which is which.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

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John Maplethorpe said:

JP_Losman said:

it is not Trump who signed thousands of affidavits.

Thousands of citizens are accusing the election officials of fraud in these precincts

I have an affidavit regarding bigfoot. Take it to the FBI or court and see if it survives cross.
I would be impressed if you had 100 people that you don't really know that well bringing corroborating affidavits under penalty of perjury.
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John Maplethorpe said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

And historical 3% ballot rejection now down to 0.3% this year (a year loaded with mail in ballots).

You know these numbers can be checked and verified at the Georgia SOS? You don't have to accept the made up numbers you saw on Twitter.
You don't believe the low ballot rejection numbers this year?
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coolerguy12 said:

John Maplethorpe said:

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Well there was this busted water pipe in Fulton Co with weird statistic aborrations. a few lines of SQL code and I can throw away all kinds of stuff

Delete from voterec where recID equals whateverIWant
//then walks to the shredder

When one facet of the conspiracy fails simply introduce a larger more implausible conspiracy.


From the party of Russia, Russia, Russia ladies and gentlemen.
"the left believed this one hoax so we can believe this other one"
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The affidavits are a mix of eyewitness testimony often explained innocuously, internet filled forms, and "experts" that aren't experts speculating about things.

There are a few probably that deserve investigation I don't have a problem with it, but these grand conspiracies from Powell and gang are completely ridiculous. Dominion is gonna sue her ass off.
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Old McDonald said:

coolerguy12 said:

John Maplethorpe said:

Quote:

Well there was this busted water pipe in Fulton Co with weird statistic aborrations. a few lines of SQL code and I can throw away all kinds of stuff

Delete from voterec where recID equals whateverIWant
//then walks to the shredder

When one facet of the conspiracy fails simply introduce a larger more implausible conspiracy.


From the party of Russia, Russia, Russia ladies and gentlemen.
"the left believed this one hoax so we can believe this other one"
The left believed this one hoax and had no problem with all forms of media reporting it as truth, spending tons of tax dollars investigating and years of calendar time, so I won't be listening to any criticism from them if I want to look into the security of our elections.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

 
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