WRONG !!John Maplethorpe said:
Lean how anything works before ranting about source code - the election was conducted on paper.
ttu_85 said:WRONG !!John Maplethorpe said:
Lean how anything works before ranting about source code - the election was conducted on paper.
But john Ga had computers where people FIRST entered their votes THEN it was printed. So yes you do "rant" about source first and foremost. But go keep projecting. Its all you do. That and I see you still star your own post.
You again, where do you find all your fig leaves for the Democrats?John Maplethorpe said:
They're not even alleging "rigging" according to the article.
Post where or quote where I did not know about the voting system. Explain yourself. I have a bunch of family in GA. All over it.John Maplethorpe said:ttu_85 said:WRONG !!John Maplethorpe said:
Lean how anything works before ranting about source code - the election was conducted on paper.
But john Ga had computers where people FIRST entered their votes THEN it was printed. So yes you do "rant" about source first and foremost. But go keep projecting. Its all you do. That and I see you still star your own post.
Half the ballots were filed out by hand, the touch screen kiosks aren't connected to anything, they don't count anything, they're just air-gapped printers, you were clearly confused on this point. We couldn't have a discussion because you didn't know anything about their voting system.
BluHorseShu said:EDHEC Ag said:Quote:
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were "voting irregularities" in these states as a result of the above.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.
Link
So what harm does the suit say Texas (the state or on behalf of the people?) suffered?
ttu_85 said:Post where or quote where I did not know about the voting system. Explain yourself. I have a bunch of family in GA. All over it.John Maplethorpe said:ttu_85 said:WRONG !!John Maplethorpe said:
Lean how anything works before ranting about source code - the election was conducted on paper.
But john Ga had computers where people FIRST entered their votes THEN it was printed. So yes you do "rant" about source first and foremost. But go keep projecting. Its all you do. That and I see you still star your own post.
Half the ballots were filed out by hand, the touch screen kiosks aren't connected to anything, they don't count anything, they're just air-gapped printers, you were clearly confused on this point. We couldn't have a discussion because you didn't know anything about their voting system.
See how this works. You have a little script you run to shut people down.:
Make an accusation
Demand an explanation
Refute said explanation. Even if you do not have a clue
Tell them they don't know anything. When, in fact, they do
display false confidence.
Never present facts of your own- or just cut and paste something from CNN
Then star your own post.
A programmer can write code to do anything if they choose. Why cant you understand this basic idea. Clearly you have no idea how these systems operate.John Maplethorpe said:
It was revealed when you said you could write a code to flip votes and print a ballot with the opposite selection. Clearly you thought the BMDs were capable of recording votes instead of just dumb air-gapped printers.
Your theory doesn't work, people would see wrong selections on their paper ballot, which is the official record of the vote.
ttu_85 said:Post where or quote where I did not know about the voting system. Explain yourself.John Maplethorpe said:ttu_85 said:WRONG !!John Maplethorpe said:
Lean how anything works before ranting about source code - the election was conducted on paper.
But john Ga had computers where people FIRST entered their votes THEN it was printed. So yes you do "rant" about source first and foremost. But go keep projecting. Its all you do. That and I see you still star your own post.
Half the ballots were filed out by hand, the touch screen kiosks aren't connected to anything, they don't count anything, they're just air-gapped printers, you were clearly confused on this point. We couldn't have a discussion because you didn't know anything about their voting system.
Quote:
I can easily make a computer print anything I want it too. I can make one, if I wrote the code, print anything YOU put in it.
ttu_85 said:You forgot to bold it. !!.txaggie_08 said:BluHorseShu said:EDHEC Ag said:Quote:
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were "voting irregularities" in these states as a result of the above.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.
Link
So what harm does the suit say Texas (the state or on behalf of the people?) suffered?Quote:
By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens' vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution
It's right there in the article.
What I would love to see out of all this is ELECTION TRANSPARENCY.
No closed system blackbox voting systems. Cant believe people are not raising hell about this. Sorry but you lawyers are way behind the curve on this. Its very dangerous and a threat to this republic. The entire election process must be transparent especially the software. Else nobody will buy the results in this polarized environment.
Also new laws to severely punish those that commit election fraud.
Maybe cases like this lead to critical reforms.
Amen Brother this is the message to spread. !!!!. ITs my cause.SLAM said:ttu_85 said:You forgot to bold it. !!.txaggie_08 said:Quote:
By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens' vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution
It's right there in the article.
What I would love to see out of all this is ELECTION TRANSPARENCY.
No closed system blackbox voting systems. Cant believe people are not raising hell about this. Sorry but you lawyers are way behind the curve on this. Its very dangerous and a threat to this republic. The entire election process must be transparent especially the software. Else nobody will buy the results in this polarized environment.
Also new laws to severely punish those that commit election fraud.
Maybe cases like this lead to critical reforms.
All source code for voting machines must be open source and available to the public for analysis.
Every single step should be completely transparent. There should be zero ability to hide anything at all with elections beyond names on ballots.
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There is no secret "vote flipping" algorithm. Third-party test labs, chosen by the bipartisan Election Assistance Commission and accredited by a program of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, perform complete source-code reviews on every federally certified tabulation system. States replicate this process for their own certifications. Postelection canvassing and auditing also exist to provide additional assurance of the vote totals' accuracy.
It does make sense. There are obvious effects that the executive office has on states. If other states illegally altered the vote and changed who gets in the office then Texas suffers.JCRebel13 said:vette said:BluHorseShu said:EDHEC Ag said:Quote:
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were "voting irregularities" in these states as a result of the above.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.
Link
So what harm does the suit say Texas (the state or on behalf of the people?) suffered?
That Joe Biden would be president? Is this a real question?
SCOTUS won't accept that reply.
and some states [like texas] refused the disputed voting machines of dominion claiming untrustworthy standards. Odd.John Maplethorpe said:
I'm not against that, but I'll point out all the states examine and audit the source code before they certify machines for use.
You just dont stop. Uh was paper the initial source of the Ga vote ?John Maplethorpe said:
I'm not against that, but I'll point out all the states examine and audit the source code before they certify machines for use.
Think about how audacious and impractical this theory is and the unhinged people pushing it on the flimsiest pretext. It would never work with paper ballots.
Wouldn't the harm be that election fraud in some states potentially invalidates votes of people in all states?tysker said:BluHorseShu said:EDHEC Ag said:Quote:
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were "voting irregularities" in these states as a result of the above.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.
Link
So what harm does the suit say Texas (the state or on behalf of the people?) suffered?
Is harm required in Controversies among States or is proof of violating the Constitution enough?
Eta: if harm is required, then such suits would arise from whom? The people of the particular state only? You could even make the case no one was 'harmed' yet the Constitution was still violated.
Since when do you actually care about taxpayers and their money except to screw them over?CondensedFoggyAggie said:
Well, now I know 5 states that will spend additional taxpayer money on lawyers.
All the blue stars for you!ttu_85 said:Post where or quote where I did not know about the voting system. Explain yourself. I have a bunch of family in GA. All over it.John Maplethorpe said:ttu_85 said:WRONG !!John Maplethorpe said:
Lean how anything works before ranting about source code - the election was conducted on paper.
But john Ga had computers where people FIRST entered their votes THEN it was printed. So yes you do "rant" about source first and foremost. But go keep projecting. Its all you do. That and I see you still star your own post.
Half the ballots were filed out by hand, the touch screen kiosks aren't connected to anything, they don't count anything, they're just air-gapped printers, you were clearly confused on this point. We couldn't have a discussion because you didn't know anything about their voting system.
See how this works. You have a little script you run to shut people down.:
Make an accusation
Demand an explanation
Refute said explanation. Even if you do not have a clue
Tell them they don't know anything. When, in fact, they do
display false confidence.
Never present facts of your own- or just cut and paste something from CNN
Then star your own post.
MooreTrucker said:Wouldn't the harm be that election fraud in some states potentially invalidates votes of people in all states?tysker said:BluHorseShu said:EDHEC Ag said:Quote:
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were "voting irregularities" in these states as a result of the above.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.
Link
So what harm does the suit say Texas (the state or on behalf of the people?) suffered?
Is harm required in Controversies among States or is proof of violating the Constitution enough?
Eta: if harm is required, then such suits would arise from whom? The people of the particular state only? You could even make the case no one was 'harmed' yet the Constitution was still violated.
ttu_85 said:You just dont stop. Uh was paper the initial source of the Ga vote ?John Maplethorpe said:
I'm not against that, but I'll point out all the states examine and audit the source code before they certify machines for use.
Think about how audacious and impractical this theory is and the unhinged people pushing it on the flimsiest pretext. It would never work with paper ballots.
That one question and its answer makes you look idiotic. Yes anyone questioning that is unhinged. Troll
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WHEREFORE, Plaintiff States respectfully request that this Court issue the following relief:
A. Declare that Defendant States Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin administered the 2020 presidential election in violation of the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
B. Declare that any electoral college votes cast by such presidential electors appointed in Defendant States Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin are in violation of the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and cannot be counted.
C. Enjoin Defendant States' use of the 2020 election results for the Office of President to appoint presidential electors to the Electoral College.
D. Enjoin Defendant States' use of the 2020 election results for the Office of President to appoint presidential electors to the Electoral College and authorize, pursuant to the Court's remedial authority, the Defendant States to conduct a special election to appoint presidential electors.
E. If any of Defendant States have already appointed presidential electors to the Electoral College using the 2020 election results, direct such States' legislatures, pursuant to 3 U.S.C. 2 and U.S. CONST. art. II, 1, cl. 2, to appoint a new set of presidential electors in a manner that does not violate the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment, or to appoint no presidential electors at all.
F. Enjoin the Defendant States from certifying presidential electors or otherwise meeting for purposes of the electoral college pursuant to 3 U.S.C. 5, 3 U.S.C. 7, or applicable law pending further order of this Court.
G. Award costs to Plaintiff State.
H. Grant such other relief as the Court deems just and proper
Welcome to the board. Again.asandl said:
In a year of stupid election lawsuits, this is arguably the stupidest (and that is saying something).
Lawyers who filed this should be embarrassed.
ttu_85 said:You just dont stop. Uh was paper the initial source of the Ga vote ?John Maplethorpe said:
I'm not against that, but I'll point out all the states examine and audit the source code before they certify machines for use.
Think about how audacious and impractical this theory is and the unhinged people pushing it on the flimsiest pretext. It would never work with paper ballots.
That one question and its answer makes you look idiotic. Yes anyone questioning that is unhinged. Troll
Quote:
example Code
vote=getVote();
if (vote =='r') { // is it a Repub vote
int scam = random(100);....//get a random number
if(scam == 50) {
......++demVote;
..} else ++repVote;
if(vote=='d') ++demVote;
Don't worry comrade, they will never put us revolutionaries to the cause in the gulag.HTownAg98 said:
No, lots of people recognizing a bogus lawsuit when they see it.
