Cactus Jack said:

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Students are allowed to have an "advisor" at these meetings but attorneys are specifically barred.

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Students are permitted to have one advisor present with them during their student conduct conference. Students that are charged in the same incident or who are "not in good standing" with the University may not serve as an advisor for the accused student. Additionally, the advisor may not be an attorney unless the accused student is also the subject of a pending subsequent criminal matter arising out of the same circumstances or their case involves sexual misconduct, stalking, dating violence, domestic violence or related retaliation. Aside from those two exceptions, the advisor may be anyone of the student's choosing (friend, faculty member, parent, clergy, etc.). However, this advisor is not permitted to represent or speak for the student during the student conduct conference. They may provide advice to the student, but under no circumstances will they be permitted to speak for the student during the student conduct conference.

Students are also required to sign a privacy release form that permits another individual to be present during their student conduct conference.

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This is bull*****

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Where's Hawg, if she's retired she's not an attorney without a bar license right?

Not. Another. Dime.

You need to trade your flip phone in for a newer model.

Think it's the one being stomped by the future antifa of America chapter. My understanding is just was the name of the club.

Cactus Jack said:

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Students are allowed to have an "advisor" at these meetings but attorneys are specifically barred.

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Students are permitted to have one advisor present with them during their student conduct conference. Students that are charged in the same incident or who are "not in good standing" with the University may not serve as an advisor for the accused student. Additionally, the advisor may not be an attorney unless the accused student is also the subject of a pending subsequent criminal matter arising out of the same circumstances or their case involves sexual misconduct, stalking, dating violence, domestic violence or related retaliation. Aside from those two exceptions, the advisor may be anyone of the student's choosing (friend, faculty member, parent, clergy, etc.). However, this advisor is not permitted to represent or speak for the student during the student conduct conference. They may provide advice to the student, but under no circumstances will they be permitted to speak for the student during the student conduct conference.

Students are also required to sign a privacy release form that permits another individual to be present during their student conduct conference.

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This is bull*****

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Yeah they can't actually block a lawyer like that. Good luck if they try.

Should wear this shirt to the hearing and plead the 5th for every question.

Not only is it BS, it sounds like it violates the Sixth Amendment.

Additionally, the students are required to mount their own defense. There's little to no discovery. No cross examination of accusers (even in cases not involving criminal activity). They even use the language police use in interrogations. "We're just here to get your side of the story." Just like a police interrogation, the fact that you are being dragged in front of them already means they think there is sufficient evidence of a violation and you are questioned to prove your innocence. Unlike a police interrogation, you can't have an attorney. If you are an innocent person who is nervous and has a hard time getting words out, you are SOL. Your advisor isn't even allowed to speak for you. Again, these liberal arts hacks don't want intelligent people questioning them. They want to face students, and students only, because they don't want to be challenged. This is the ONLY reason for this rule.

Then they decide based on "Preponderance of the Information."

None of the conduct officers deciding whether a violation occurred are attorneys.

It is a kangaroo court. The way they are conducted should be illegal. Anyone who knows members of the state legislature should press them to force universities to change these procedures.

Anyone can file a claim against you for any reason. If the liberal arts buffoons in these staff positions decide they don't like you or a political position you have, or the color of your skin, or whatever makes you an oppressor in their eyes, they can strike you down with no recourse on them at all.

There's no recourse for them when they refuse to take a case of someone committing violations of university policy, such as faking a hate crime in a very public way or vandalizing university property. The people in this office can do whatever they want, whenever they want, with no accountability.

Our campus has become pretty much tu lite.
It's exponentially headed to being just like tu.

I haven't been this angry since my daughter's car was towed from the Century Plaza unjustifiably.

I want some details before I seal my anger. This needs press coverage.

Student needs a lawyer and he/she or a friend should set up a go fund me to help defer the legal costs. Post it here and I will donate.

That letter:
- Hey show-up and be prepared to defend yourself.
- What am I defending? Putting some Trump signs up?
- Just show up and you'll find out.

I'd sue the faculty and university running this nonsense in court to get a restraining order or allowing proper representation.

Their kangaroo court doesn't deserve to be pretend it's real. Elevate it to the real grown ups.

hbtheduce said:

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I'd sue the faculty and university running this nonsense in court to get a restraining order or allowing proper representation.

Their kangaroo court doesn't deserve to be pretend it's real. Elevate it to the real grown ups.

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I'm going down the rabbit hole for some common law rulings on this. I'm pretty sure many, many suits have been filed over these procedures and for the most part they've been upheld.

However, since this involves political speech and not just a mundane accusation of violation of some other policy, there are different constitutional concerns other than just a fair process.

What sort of dingbat do you have to be to get a graduate degree in education to aspire to be a peon in the minitrue brigade at texas A&M?

Hey sharp, unless you get rid of these nonsense wannabe CRT marxists, your donations are gonna dwindle to NOTHING.

Forcing young and the other diversity leftists was a good start, but you gotta get rid of these cockroaches like Jessica Welsch too.

MTTANK said:

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To my understanding Charlie Kirk with turning point is now involved, as well as the Rudder Foundation.

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Charlie Kirk getting involved isn't a good thing. He's a joke. I'm not familiar with the Rudder Foundation, but I hope this student gets some good counsel. It is unbelievable that this student is called to the conduct office when race hoax guy wasn't. Young's last day can't come soon enough.

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MTTANK said:

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Jessica Welsh was called and won't answer questions about Rule SAP 51.99.99.M0.02. She "did not feel comfortable having a conversation with me about this issue".
I asked for her boss to call me back. Of course she's 'unavailable' today.
Her name is Jaquelyn Upshaw Brown. She's supposed to call back Monday.
My understanding is Jacquelyn is a CRT, Marxist.

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>not feel comfortable

Then you ****ing demand that she appear, don't let these mother****ers hide behind this garbage. They want to make a ruling on this then fine, they can do it in person and to a face. If they refuse then threaten them with a lawyer.

These communists need to get the **** out of my school. Make Communists Afraid Again!

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BINGO. Stop letting these people get away with "ohh I don't feel safe! I don't feel comfortable!" Own up to your own actions and words!

PrincessButtercup said:

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MTTANK said:

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To my understanding Charlie Kirk with turning point is now involved, as well as the Rudder Foundation.

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Charlie Kirk getting involved isn't a good thing. He's a joke. I'm not familiar with the Rudder Foundation, but I hope this student gets some good counsel. It is unbelievable that this student is called to the conduct office when race hoax guy wasn't. Young's last day can't come soon enough.

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Young is only a symptom. A&M suffers from a malaise of the brain that has spread to the body.