COVID infections found as early as one year ago (Dec, 2019)

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut
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Ragoo said:

policywonk98 said:

The evidence will comtinue to mount on a manufactured crisis as we get more and more health data from 2019 and 2020.

Scary thing is, now China and Globalists know what is possible in terms of Americans willingness to give up individual rights......and how to sway elections.


if real truth comes out I would expect us to be more skeptical next time.


i wouldn't. americans do/think whatever the talking box tells them to.
FattyDelights
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It's funny - it's so obvious that this was a manufactured crisis from the get go but yet people on this thread are still arguing how it should of been dealt with. Good god. The answer is nothing should of been done, like every other previous bird flu scare, etc.

But here we are and cannot even get out of our own way but whatever.

TTUArmy
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WHOOP!'91 said:

policywonk98 said:

The evidence will comtinue to mount on a manufactured crisis as we get more and more health data from 2019 and 2020.

Scary thing is, now China and Globalists know what is possible in terms of Americans willingness to give up individual rights......and how to sway elections.


Especially that last thing. Dems had ZERO CHANCE in 2020 with the economy the way it was going. Introduce the China virus, run around like your hair is on fire, act like the Trump admin handled it poorly, then cheat your butts off to eek out a "win".
That's exactly what the Moody's 2020 Presidential election analysis reported back in Sept-Oct of 2019.
dermdoc
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BigRobSA said:

Link - Bloomberg

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Testing has found Covid-19 infections in the U.S. in December 2019, according to a study, providing further evidence indicating the coronavirus was spreading globally weeks before the first cases were reported in China.

The study published Monday identified 106 infections from 7,389 blood samples collected from donors in nine U.S. states between Dec. 13 and Jan. 17. The samples, collected by the American Red Cross, were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for testing to detect if there were antibodies against the virus.

"The findings of this report suggest that SARS-CoV-2 infections may have been present in the U.S. in December 2019, earlier than previously recognized," the paper said.


So, just like many of us said....damn, I almost....almost get tired of being right all of the freaking time. Political because
..well...COVID's weakass is 100% political now with all of the overhyped bull**** and lockdowns and worthless masks being forced upon the populace.
Damn, I said that also and got blasted by all the "scientists".

Weird.
aggiepanic95
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BigRobSA said:

aggiepanic95 said:

sounds like OP needs a trip to reeducation camp. a mask and hand sanitizer will be provided.



Advance in my general direction, brethren!
Teslag
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MuckRaker96 said:

In late January, my wife and daughters all got miserably sick with high fevers and difficulty breathing. I had a fever and complications in my feet that have never completely gone away. We were all told flu or strep throat. 6 weeks later all of our symptoms show up as COVID symptoms, but when I posted it on the COVID thread, a few busy TexAgs doctors were able to take the time to tell me how stupid and ignorant I was to suggest the virus might have been in Texas in late January.


There are a significant number of other viral infections that cause sickness other than covid or influenza.
BigRobSA
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dermdoc said:

BigRobSA said:

Link - Bloomberg

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Testing has found Covid-19 infections in the U.S. in December 2019, according to a study, providing further evidence indicating the coronavirus was spreading globally weeks before the first cases were reported in China.

The study published Monday identified 106 infections from 7,389 blood samples collected from donors in nine U.S. states between Dec. 13 and Jan. 17. The samples, collected by the American Red Cross, were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for testing to detect if there were antibodies against the virus.

"The findings of this report suggest that SARS-CoV-2 infections may have been present in the U.S. in December 2019, earlier than previously recognized," the paper said.


So, just like many of us said....damn, I almost....almost get tired of being right all of the freaking time. Political because
..well...COVID's weakass is 100% political now with all of the overhyped bull**** and lockdowns and worthless masks being forced upon the populace.
Damn, I said that also and got blasted by all the "scientists".

Weird.


You just don't understand exponential math!!!!!1


'Member that bull*****
dermdoc
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Sure there are.

But ask docs who actually see live patients(unlike Fauci, Birx, and all the "experts").

There was a lot of talk about a viral infection which tested negative for flu in the winter of 2019 and early2020.

Sorry that was Leather.
thirdcoast
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rgag12
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Post this on the Corona board and see them dance around this inconvenient truth
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Leather Tuscadero said:

MuckRaker96 said:

In late January, my wife and daughters all got miserably sick with high fevers and difficulty breathing. I had a fever and complications in my feet that have never completely gone away. We were all told flu or strep throat. 6 weeks later all of our symptoms show up as COVID symptoms, but when I posted it on the COVID thread, a few busy TexAgs doctors were able to take the time to tell me how stupid and ignorant I was to suggest the virus might have been in Texas in late January.


There are a significant number of other viral infections that cause sickness other than covid or influenza.
I'm not saying that's what we had, I just hate the grandiosity and egotism of people telling me there was no way possible it was true because of science.
dermdoc
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rgag12 said:

Post this on the Corona board and see them dance around this inconvenient truth
Already has been posted there.
Rapier108
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rgag12 said:

Post this on the Corona board and see them dance around this inconvenient truth
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3161795

They're mostly ignoring it. Right now they're all gloating about how lockdowns works.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
dermdoc
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The problem is that "science" also should include looking at historical respiratory spread viruses and how they spread, etc.

Birx and Fauci have no excuse.

It is fascinating how young people today seem to think that everything that happens has never happened before. And it is always couple with drama.
dermdoc
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And I have never had a coronabro answer my question about why are we still not dying from the Spanish flu. This ain't hard to figure out.
Dark_Knight
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Wow...covid found as early as December 2019....not shocked at all.
Because I'm Batman!

Cassius
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policywonk98 said:

The evidence will comtinue to mount on a manufactured crisis as we get more and more health data from 2019 and 2020.

Scary thing is, now China and Globalists know what is possible in terms of Americans willingness to give up individual rights......and how to sway elections.




You are right about China.

Think what a seriously deadly virus would do. This country would completely yield to a dictator with the military roaming the streets.

The future was already bleak wuth the Marxists in charge now. I can't even imagine.
Cassius
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dermdoc said:

And I have never had a coronabro answer my question about why are we still not dying from the Spanish flu. This ain't hard to figure out.


Dermdoc, I truly appreciate you being one of the rationale medical professionals on the board in regard to this virus.
bmks270
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That is a lot of positives... how accurate is the test they used for this?
Ags4DaWin
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Rapier108 said:

It was active in China in September/October so no reason to think it didn't get here in November or December.


September-August is what it is looking more like TBH.

I think they have looked back into September and found some cases in Spain or Italy back that far.

Also I have been telling people since March that the timeline just didn't line up and that it was in the US before the beginning of the year.

In fact I told most people that the first wave back in March was probably the second wave.

Stupid that we shut things down in the summer when the warm weather would have helped people fight this off.
mwp02ag
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46yo m, workout 5-7x a week, coached 3-5 classes a week, active real estate inspector performing 5-8 inspections a week and early January I was laid out for 3 weeks with covid symptoms. From loss of taste/smell to horrible fatigue and difficulty breathing. I also tested negative for flu.

I had it in January.
policywonk98
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dermdoc said:

And I have never had a coronabro answer my question about why are we still not dying from the Spanish flu. This ain't hard to figure out.


I thought it was a fun reminder the other night on ESPN, that college teams played during the Spanish flu and we shared a championship with 2 other teams, including Notre Dame, during the Spanish Flu season.

I wonder if anyone that stayed home for Thanksgiving fainted from the stress of hearing about it?

BigRobSA
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Ags4DaWin said:

Rapier108 said:

It was active in China in September/October so no reason to think it didn't get here in November or December.


September-August is what it is looking more like TBH.

I think they have looked back into September and found some cases in Spain or Italy back that far.

Also I have been telling people since March that the timeline just didn't line up and that it was in the US before the beginning of the year.

In fact I told most people that the first wave back in March was probably the second wave.

Stupid that we shut things down in the summer when the warm weather would have helped people fight this off.

Possibly a third. But, yes, definitely NOT the first nor something to close everything down, be masked up for, etc.

The overtly stupid actions taken are indicative of the decreasing intellect of the masses and the extreme pussification of same.
aggiepanic95
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My wife had all the symptoms in late December. Went and got tested, no flu, no strep, no nothing. Also, no taste, no smell, and felt like a train ran over her. She is convinced it was COVID. That was December 31st, 2019.
Ags4DaWin
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BigRobSA said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Rapier108 said:

It was active in China in September/October so no reason to think it didn't get here in November or December.


September-August is what it is looking more like TBH.

I think they have looked back into September and found some cases in Spain or Italy back that far.

Also I have been telling people since March that the timeline just didn't line up and that it was in the US before the beginning of the year.

In fact I told most people that the first wave back in March was probably the second wave.

Stupid that we shut things down in the summer when the warm weather would have helped people fight this off.

Possibly a third. But, yes, definitely NOT the first nor something to close everything down, be masked up for, etc.

The overtly stupid actions taken are indicative of the decreasing intellect of the masses and the extreme pussification of same.


Big Rob, you and I disagree alot on economic policy, but in this fact we are in 100% agreement.
jefe95
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Military Games in Wuhan China. October 2019.

Convince me otherwise.

Military from all over the world were there for S&G.
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NoahAg said:

I kinda think I had it late Nov-Dec last year. Dry cough, sudden chest pain creeped up. Bunch of cardio tests and endoscopy were normal. Blood work was fine. GI doc thought it was reflux.

Wow. I went through the same thing in Jan-February, cardio/breathing tests came back normal. Was falsely diagnosed with reflux by pulmonologist and told I needed to learn to live with it. Went so far as to demand and get a chest CT once diagnostic testing was reopened in the summer. I tested negative for COVID in April and June.
BigRobSA
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Ags4DaWin said:

BigRobSA said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Rapier108 said:

It was active in China in September/October so no reason to think it didn't get here in November or December.


September-August is what it is looking more like TBH.

I think they have looked back into September and found some cases in Spain or Italy back that far.

Also I have been telling people since March that the timeline just didn't line up and that it was in the US before the beginning of the year.

In fact I told most people that the first wave back in March was probably the second wave.

Stupid that we shut things down in the summer when the warm weather would have helped people fight this off.

Possibly a third. But, yes, definitely NOT the first nor something to close everything down, be masked up for, etc.

The overtly stupid actions taken are indicative of the decreasing intellect of the masses and the extreme pussification of same.


Big Rob, you and I disagree alot on economic policy, but in this fact we are in 100% agreement.
A lot of people are wrong, you're not alone.
hbtheduce
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schmendeler said:

good thing trump closed the door on china after the horse had already left the stable.

Too bad China blocked all information that delayed advancement in testing to even detect it outside of government labs...

Gotta protect the party comrade.
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BigRobSA said:

Link - Bloomberg

Quote:

Testing has found Covid-19 infections in the U.S. in December 2019, according to a study, providing further evidence indicating the coronavirus was spreading globally weeks before the first cases were reported in China.

The study published Monday identified 106 infections from 7,389 blood samples collected from donors in nine U.S. states between Dec. 13 and Jan. 17. The samples, collected by the American Red Cross, were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for testing to detect if there were antibodies against the virus.

"The findings of this report suggest that SARS-CoV-2 infections may have been present in the U.S. in December 2019, earlier than previously recognized," the paper said.


So, just like many of us said....damn, I almost....almost get tired of being right all of the freaking time. Political because
..well...COVID's weakass is 100% political now with all of the overhyped bull**** and lockdowns and worthless masks being forced upon the populace.
But, but, but, but... the f16 epidemiology experts said it was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for covid to be in the US before February 2020.
Teslag
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This isn't accurate. Many said that it was possible for isolated cases to be here in December with community spread starting in January. Even as early as April of 2020 we had genetic markers showing covid was here in January.
munch96
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-sewage-idUSKBN23Q1J9

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The Italian National Institute of Health looked at 40 sewage samples collected from wastewater treatment plants in northern Italy between October 2019 and February 2020. An analysis released on Thursday said samples taken in Milan and Turin on Dec. 18 showed the presence of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
dBoy99
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Leather Tuscadero said:

This isn't accurate. Many said that it was possible for isolated cases to be here in December with community spread starting in January. Even as early as April of 2020 we had genetic markers showing covid was here in January.
It absolutely is accurate. All the experts here said there was no way covid was in the US before February. I will do some digging but will post links once I find them.
Teslag
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I'll save you the time.

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3106256

Go down to the post at 9:11am. The genetic sequencing in April showed strains clearly here in January from spread.
dBoy99
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https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3106256/replies/56362101

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3105508/replies/56341952

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3105508/replies/56342292

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3101132/replies/56207956

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3101132/replies/56208064


 
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