Conservative Ag said:

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Look at yourself. Bouncing from thread to thread playing goalie on topics you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding other than what you've read on a cnn blurb. That's Michigan's general position? No ***** Really? I wonder if other states also attempt to keep dead people from voting as a policy????

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It's quite simple really. They validate blots against the voter roll. If a ballot comes on from a voter than it deceased, it gets thrown out. Not that complicated.

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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It doesn't ring alarm bells for you that they sent a dead person a ballot in the first place? Isn't it easier to remove dead people from the voter roll as they die than to try to ensure the integrity of the vote as ballots come in?

You can say there's not enough there to overturn the result, and I'm inclined to agree, but to dismiss this as if it's not an issue needing resolution is just ignoring the problem.

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10k here 500 there another 5k over here throw away 50k trump ballots throughout the whole process by organized and home grown cheats and BAM you throw the election. Every Trump voter in these 5 states should be veryfying their vote counted and if not raise hell with somebody or call the fraudlines.

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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It doesn't ring alarm bells for you that they sent a dead person a ballot in the first place? Isn't it easier to remove dead people from the voter roll as they die than to try to ensure the integrity of the vote as ballots come in?

You can say there's not enough there to overturn the result, and I'm inclined to agree, but to dismiss this as if it's not an issue needing resolution is just ignoring the problem.

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Absolutely it does. Reform is needed.

Where is that poster getting that information? I don't want to trust just a random Twitter post. I want evidence.

AggieDub14 said:

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Conservative Ag said:

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Look at yourself. Bouncing from thread to thread playing goalie on topics you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding other than what you've read on a cnn blurb. That's Michigan's general position? No ***** Really? I wonder if other states also attempt to keep dead people from voting as a policy????

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It's quite simple really. They validate blots against the voter roll. If a ballot comes on from a voter than it deceased, it gets thrown out. Not that complicated.

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How ****ing dense are you?

AggieDub14 said:

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Look at yourself. Bouncing from thread to thread playing goalie on topics you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding other than what you've read on a cnn blurb. That's Michigan's general position? No ***** Really? I wonder if other states also attempt to keep dead people from voting as a policy????

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It's quite simple really. They validate blots against the voter roll. If a ballot comes on from a voter than it deceased, it gets thrown out. Not that complicated.

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So you are saying the state validates the ballots to see if the voter is on the voter roll to determine if it is a valid ballot (they are alive, etc).
But the state already mailed ballots out to people on the voter rolls even though they are deceased?
Is that really your arguement here?

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Doesn't the attempt to submit false ballots warrant a federal investigation?

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I saw what appears to be someone that appears to have voted twice in my precinct. How do you go about doing this?

So lemme see....

10,000 x $1000 each = $10 million

Someone is about to get paid!!! Holla!

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Look at yourself. Bouncing from thread to thread playing goalie on topics you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding other than what you've read on a cnn blurb. That's Michigan's general position? No ***** Really? I wonder if other states also attempt to keep dead people from voting as a policy????

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It's quite simple really. They validate blots against the voter roll. If a ballot comes on from a voter than it deceased, it gets thrown out. Not that complicated.

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So you are saying the state validates the ballots to see if the voter is on the voter roll to determine if it is a valid ballot (they are alive, etc).
But the state already mailed ballots out to people on the voter rolls even though they are deceased?
Is that really your arguement here?

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Yes, that is the argument. The state can't check before sending a ballot out but can somehow magically check on the day they are counting votes. Even if none of the votes made it to the count this should be a big f'ing deal. They should try and find out if there were groups sending in massive dead people ballots and prosecute them. I don't see why 10,000 plus cases of voter fraud is just dismissed even if they didn't get away with it.

In Michigan, Penn., and Wisconsin, in some counties there were more votes that registered voters.

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So you're telling me they take each and every mail in vote and search the person's name for a death certificate?
Or how exactly are they verifying this?
If they have an easy way to verify, wouldn't they just purge them before the election even occurred?

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Are you serious Clark? That's one of the "no" policy positions: goes along with no voter ID as part of their non negotiable conditions in regards to voting rights.

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In Michigan, Penn., and Wisconsin, in some counties there were more votes that registered voters.

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Does that include the counts of voters who registered on the day of voting as is allowed in some states? I don't know about Michigan and Pennsylvania, but Wisconsin does allow the same day registration of voters.

Wisconsin had some counties in the upper 80% range for voter participation. That is way higher than typical and out of the norm with even this election.

AggieDub14 said:

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Look at yourself. Bouncing from thread to thread playing goalie on topics you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding other than what you've read on a cnn blurb. That's Michigan's general position? No ***** Really? I wonder if other states also attempt to keep dead people from voting as a policy????

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It's quite simple really. They validate blots against the voter roll. If a ballot comes on from a voter than it deceased, it gets thrown out. Not that complicated.

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LOL....."if a ballot comes in from a voter that is deceased".....it sounds like ballots from the dead blow in with the weather.

Who is voting in behalf of dead people?

I am sure you are for full prosecution under the law.

Cobra39

Bro, come on man, that's voter intimidation!

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Who turned the ballots in? Attempting to use such ballots IS fraud, and a felony.

"That terrorist bomb plot was discovered, therefore no crime occurred". Get it?

He must really believe that those dead folks filled the ballot out themselves...

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We're they accepted and included in the count though? That's the part that's unclear. The Dems keep saying no but then don't provide anything besides "trust me".

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If you can't trust a Democrat, who can you trust?

I don't understand why the ballots were sent in the first place. You would think that absentee/mail-in-ballots would have tighter securities, not less.

Why do they not have a process to identify dead people BEFORE sending out the vote to them?

Anyone remember the acorn scandal and the thousands of falsified voter registrations?

Detroit gonna Detroit.

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Look at yourself. Bouncing from thread to thread playing goalie on topics you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding other than what you've read on a cnn blurb. That's Michigan's general position? No ***** Really? I wonder if other states also attempt to keep dead people from voting as a policy????

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It's quite simple really. They validate blots against the voter roll. If a ballot comes on from a voter than it deceased, it gets thrown out. Not that complicated.

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So you are saying the state validates the ballots to see if the voter is on the voter roll to determine if it is a valid ballot (they are alive, etc).
But the state already mailed ballots out to people on the voter rolls even though they are deceased?
Is that really your arguement here?

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Fascinating and sad all at the same time.

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Um, just trying to vote for a dead person is fraud.

HTH

I visited a cemetery in Michigan over the weekend, and the tombstones all had "I Voted" stickers.

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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That's either a bold face lie by Michigan or the worst example of government "efficiency".

So rather than do this "verification" on up front on the voter rolls, they instead mail ballots to everyone who's registered and incur those costs, then process all those extra ballots, and only THEN decide which ones to keep.

Why on earth would you go through all those extra steps if you could do that verification up front and save the costs of sending 10K ballots out and then have to process them after the fact?

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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Submitting 10,000 ballots to try to be counted is THE DEFFINITION OF VOTER FRAUD. 10,000 ballots were summitted by someone to try and cheat an election. Please define voter fraud so we can be on the same page.

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Wisconsin had some counties in the upper 80% range for voter participation. That is way higher than typical and out of the norm with even this election.

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Only if you don't understand how to calculate voter participation.

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So have they begun verifying whether or not these ballots were counted?

10k is a lot though, regardless if they were/weren't counted. That's a sizable amount of fraudulent activity to burn through.

Reminds me of the guy who figured out how to beat the lottery, and he/his wife essentially lived at convenience stores while racing through filling out the cards. Go submit thousands of lotto tickets in a few days time, go back to their house (they lived in a different state if memory is correct), wash/rinse/repeat. Guy made millions.

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No. He was part of the software team. He used a known seed value for the pseudorandom number generator on certain days. He couldn't tell you exactly which numbers would hit, but he knew which ones were the most likely.

1. How did at least 10,000 ballots go out to dead people? Those are also supposed to be checked against the voter rolls.

2. If some technical or time crunch issue prevented a thorough check during early voting, why are we confident they could do it right in a few hours after the polls closed?

3. How sure are we that the voter rolls are actually clean? I'm not. Large data sets often have a lot of junk in them even when there's no benefit or even a large cost associated with inaccuracy. Here there is a potential benefit to inaccuracy.

4. Who filled them out and returned them? That is fraud whether the ballots were counted or not.

5. People don't usually go to the effort of filling out paperwork when they don't expect some benefit. They especially don't commit crimes when they don't expect a benefit. What benefit did they expect, and what reason did they have to expect a benefit?

Also, regarding the source, I recently started listening to Rich Baris's YouTube channel (the people's pundit). He's one of very few pollsters who was close on the election results, and in the weeks leading up to election day he explained exactly why most polls were going to be wrong. He predicted a lot of what we're seeing right now about inaccurate voter rolls and questionable practices in certain counties. He also said that Pfizer was going to have a vaccine much sooner than a lot of people expect.


I never really trust media sources, but so far Baris seems to know what he's talking about and be fairly well connected.

So, basically, the Dems failed to get out the dead vote?

Pinche Abogado said:

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Biden cheated his way into President-elect status. I am willing to go on record that he will not win this election.

If I am wrong, I'll eat crow and stay away from F16 for a year.

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🚩Richard's analysis has flagged almost 10,000 returned absentee ballots in Michigan cast by dead people.

This does not mean that all 10,000 ballots were accepted.

Even still, who was behind casting all these ballots?????? https://t.co/OjYLQaY57S

— Election Wizard (@Wizard_Predicts) November 9, 2020

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Michigan has already confirmed they verify ballots to ensure dead people votes don't count. Another nothingburger in the quest to find fraud where it doesn't really exist.

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No.

I'm not saying that there were really 10,000 ballots from dead voters.

However, 10,000 attempted votes of dead people, unreported, with zero convictions of voter fraud, is a HUGE FREAKING DEAL!!!!!!

THROW THE PEOPLE IN JAIL THAT ARE ATTEMPTING VOTER FRAUD!