*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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In reply to Keegan99 • 3:27p, 4/21/22
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Keegan99 said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
Keegan99 said:
Trump in large part gave himself the Trump treatment. He acted like an arrogant jerk consistently. Why? Because he's an arrogant jerk. (And a womanizer.) Millions of persuadable moderate voters simply do not like those traits. And that's not an unreasonable view.

The inability to see his flaws, both administratively and as a communicator, is just baffling to me.



What's baffling is that right wing people actually buy into what you are saying and miss the forest for the trees.

Trump didn't lose because he's an *******. He lost because the election was stolen. The connection you're trying to make may be true in off hand cases but it wasn't enough to garner millions of non voters in 2016 to suddenly jump up and vote like crazy for a geriatric puppet in Biden.

There's no data to support that. There's plenty to support MIBs and ballot drop boxes being stuffed with Biden votes.

Again, even Trafalgar had the election right about where it ended up. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona were all tossups.

That places the election within "stealable" range. And that's wholly on Trump.

If he was just over 50% on favorability there wouldn't have been a thing the left could've done.
WTF?? So Republicans need to be popular enough to overcome Democrats cheating and if they don't it's the Republican's fault? How about we stop the steal and have a real honest election on a level playing field? Is that really too much to ask for in America?

Listen if we don't stop election theft in PA, WI, GA, and AZ we will never have another conservative. In fact voting in national elections will be just going through the motions like it is in Russia or some third-world banana republic. Liberals already have CA, OR, WA, MN, IL, HI, NY, CT, etc and they aren't giving them back anytime soon. They have the liberal machine in place in those states. They can manufacture all the ballots they need in those states and nothing is stopping them. So those are in the blue column before the race ever starts. One or two more decent size states fall and we are done as a country. The senate, president, and VP will be out of reach and that means the Judiciary goes liberal as well.
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In reply to HumpitPuryear • 3:30p, 4/21/22
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HumpitPuryear said:
Keegan99 said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
Keegan99 said:
Trump in large part gave himself the Trump treatment. He acted like an arrogant jerk consistently. Why? Because he's an arrogant jerk. (And a womanizer.) Millions of persuadable moderate voters simply do not like those traits. And that's not an unreasonable view.

The inability to see his flaws, both administratively and as a communicator, is just baffling to me.



What's baffling is that right wing people actually buy into what you are saying and miss the forest for the trees.

Trump didn't lose because he's an *******. He lost because the election was stolen. The connection you're trying to make may be true in off hand cases but it wasn't enough to garner millions of non voters in 2016 to suddenly jump up and vote like crazy for a geriatric puppet in Biden.

There's no data to support that. There's plenty to support MIBs and ballot drop boxes being stuffed with Biden votes.

Again, even Trafalgar had the election right about where it ended up. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona were all tossups.

That places the election within "stealable" range. And that's wholly on Trump.

If he was just over 50% on favorability there wouldn't have been a thing the left could've done.
WTF?? So Republicans need to be popular enough to overcome Democrats cheating and if they don't it's the Republican's fault? How about we stop the steal and have a real honest election on a level playing field? Is that really too much to ask for in America?

Listen if we don't stop election theft in PA, WI, GA, and AZ we will never have another conservative. In fact voting in national elections will be just going through the motions like it is in Russia or some third-world banana republic. Liberals already have CA, OR, WA, MN, IL, HI, NY, CT, etc and they aren't giving them back anytime soon. They have the liberal machine in place in those states. They can manufacture all the ballots they need in those states and nothing is stopping them. So those are in the blue column before the race ever starts. One or two more decent size states fall and we are done as a country. The senate, president, and VP will be out of reach and that means the Judiciary goes liberal as well.
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3:32p, 4/21/22
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I'll go to my grave KNOWING there was substantial voter fraud across the country. You don't pause counting, have water leaks, board up windows, find thousands of uncounted ballots, and fight tooth and nail to avoid accountability and audits. Of course the election was stolen.
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In reply to Keegan99 • 3:33p, 4/21/22
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Boo Weekley said:
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No, my "narrative" is the Trump is unliked by 50%+ of the electorate.

That makes it really, really difficult to win an election.

And that when trying to shoot-the-moon in the electoral college while losing the (mythical) popular vote, as Trump tried to do in 2020, it leaves one vulnerable to ballot trafficking in narrow-margin states.
To be fair, the same media that painted RINO's like GWB and Mitt Romney (and many before them) as evil guys, are going to paint Desantis as a downright MONSTER if he is ever tapped as the guy. They may feel even more threatened by him because look at his action...goes far beyond "talk". He will be a racist womanizing rapist who hates gays and trans ppl and wants to round them up and a serious "threat to our democracy". Watch, whether he runs for 2024 or another year, he will become a super villain over night.

The good news is that he is a liberal slayer. He excels in some very important areas that Trump does not...and he comes without some of the "watch me step on my own d*ck for no reason" flaws.

My point is that every liberal and concerned moderate you know will still hate him every bit as much as they did Trump bc the rabid liberal media and all of social media etc. will instruct them to, just watch.

Oh, the left will hate him, for sure.

But it's not about winning the left. It's about winning an extra few percent that are right in the middle.
True...hopefully the shallow braindead soccer moms will find him cute...or at least not repulsive.

CM's still gonna CM, but I do agree that (1) he will win back a good chunk who weren't dem but just hated Trump, and (2) the left will be a little less motivated to flock to the polls. I'll obviously vote for Trump, but man I am praying Desantis runs and Trump endorses him or just decides to enjoy retirement. Pipe. Dream.
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3:33p, 4/21/22
The goaltending for election fraud gets rather old.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Keegan99 • 3:47p, 4/21/22
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Keegan99 said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
Keegan99 said:
Trump in large part gave himself the Trump treatment. He acted like an arrogant jerk consistently. Why? Because he's an arrogant jerk. (And a womanizer.) Millions of persuadable moderate voters simply do not like those traits. And that's not an unreasonable view.

The inability to see his flaws, both administratively and as a communicator, is just baffling to me.



What's baffling is that right wing people actually buy into what you are saying and miss the forest for the trees.

Trump didn't lose because he's an *******. He lost because the election was stolen. The connection you're trying to make may be true in off hand cases but it wasn't enough to garner millions of non voters in 2016 to suddenly jump up and vote like crazy for a geriatric puppet in Biden.

There's no data to support that. There's plenty to support MIBs and ballot drop boxes being stuffed with Biden votes.

Again, even Trafalgar had the election right about where it ended up. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona were all tossups.

That places the election within "stealable" range. And that's wholly on Trump.

If he was just over 50% on favorability there wouldn't have been a thing the left could've done.
They were all tossups that Trump was dominating on election night, they all stopped counting, and then magically in the days and weeks following the election, lost every single one by a small margin. Seems legit.

"right about where it ended up".
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In reply to Keegan99 • 3:53p, 4/21/22
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Keegan99 said:
Trump in large part gave himself the Trump treatment. He acted like an arrogant jerk consistently. Why? Because he's an arrogant jerk. (And a womanizer.) Millions of persuadable moderate voters simply do not like those traits. And that's not an unreasonable view.

The inability to see his flaws, both administratively and as a communicator, is just baffling to me.
Biden was an arrogant jerk too, calling people names and such in a poor effort to act tough. Yet somehow he is a likeable arrogant jerk and Trump is not? Is that what we are supposed to believe? There are quite a few people that now Trump well that say he's a very nice guy in person and treats people respectfully. It's in the political arena where the gloves come off.

All that being said, I think Trump was the most polarizing figure we've had as President in modern history. I think the way the press treated him has much to do with that. I have no doubt that democrat voters were energized to vote against him. But all of that doesn't add up to the numbers Biden supposedly got. Far far more than Obama who had great support from democrat AND moderate voters. And Biden had ZERO campaign. There is no doubt cheating occurred at it WAS widespread. The only question really is how much did that add up to.
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4:00p, 4/21/22
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The moderates, those in the middle, and their limp-dicked goaltenders are tiresome. If there were millions willing to give the election to the democrats because Trump was crass, etc, it's a real shame. They are not nearly as smart as they think they are.
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4:35p, 4/21/22
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Is there any evidence at all that this election was decided by "moderates"? This election was decided in super blue urban areas of swing states where turnout was much higher than normal. Why it was higher than normal is up for debate (fraud vs hatred of Trump), but the turnout numbers are not in dispute. The election was decided by thousands of votes in very specific areas, not millions of squishy moderates distributed throughout the US. Don't bother posting polls created by propaganda outlets.
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In reply to aggieforester05 • 4:36p, 4/21/22
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Is there any evidence at all that this election was decided by "moderates"?
According to some goaltenders in this thread, the middle was turned off by Trump.
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In reply to GreasenUSA • 4:44p, 4/21/22
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GreasenUSA said:
aggieforester05 said:
Is there any evidence at all that this election was decided by "moderates"?
According to some goaltenders in this thread, the middle was turned off by Trump.
but no evidence. Just talking counterpoints to the overwhelming evidence of interference and fraud.
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4:47p, 4/21/22
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These people think stealing a supposedly democratically held election is "protecting our democracy". There is no reasoning with them.

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4:51p, 4/21/22
They think it is a slap in the face? I bet you Trump and anybody else that reads this is laughing their ass off. Nobody cares.
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In reply to oh no • 4:52p, 4/21/22
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Awards like this have become the American equivalent of third world dictator's chest medals. Meaningless adornment.
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In reply to aggieforester05 • 4:56p, 4/21/22
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aggieforester05 said:
Is there any evidence at all that this election was decided by "moderates"? This election was decided in super blue urban areas of swing states where turnout was much higher than normal. Why it was higher than normal is up for debate (fraud vs hatred of Trump), but the turnout numbers are not in dispute. The election was decided by thousands of votes in very specific areas, not millions of squishy moderates distributed throughout the US. Don't bother posting polls created by propaganda outlets.

and those super blue urban areas have a bunch of highly concentrated what? Blacks and Hispanics....the same races who actually turned in favor of Trump.....everywhere else. So no, its really not up for debate. Stolen!
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In reply to oh no • 4:57p, 4/21/22
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This disastrous administration is their award. Wow...congrats!
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In reply to will25u • 5:51p, 4/21/22
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Absolutely amazing people are still defending this fraudulent election. Someone caught on video signing fraudulent ballots. You have to have some serious cognitive dissonance to believe this election wasn't stolen.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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In reply to richardag • 5:52p, 4/21/22
The cognitive dissonance is strong
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In reply to richardag • 6:02p, 4/21/22
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BuT wHeRe iS tHe eViDeNcE?
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 7:08p, 4/21/22
BadMoonRisin said:
Keegan99 said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
Keegan99 said:
Trump in large part gave himself the Trump treatment. He acted like an arrogant jerk consistently. Why? Because he's an arrogant jerk. (And a womanizer.) Millions of persuadable moderate voters simply do not like those traits. And that's not an unreasonable view.

The inability to see his flaws, both administratively and as a communicator, is just baffling to me.



What's baffling is that right wing people actually buy into what you are saying and miss the forest for the trees.

Trump didn't lose because he's an *******. He lost because the election was stolen. The connection you're trying to make may be true in off hand cases but it wasn't enough to garner millions of non voters in 2016 to suddenly jump up and vote like crazy for a geriatric puppet in Biden.

There's no data to support that. There's plenty to support MIBs and ballot drop boxes being stuffed with Biden votes.

Again, even Trafalgar had the election right about where it ended up. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona were all tossups.

That places the election within "stealable" range. And that's wholly on Trump.

If he was just over 50% on favorability there wouldn't have been a thing the left could've done.
They were all tossups that Trump was dominating on election night, they all stopped counting, and then magically in the days and weeks following the election, lost every single one by a small margin. Seems legit.

If you told this story about these tactics in a ****hole 3rd world country, everyone would know it was a rigged election. But since it's the USA, we're somehow above stealing elections? Don't mind us, we're just putting plywood up so no observers are present, pulling duffle bags of votes out from under tables, rescanning votes all night, until votes are validated for a dem win.

Anyone who can't see that there was massive fraud conducted in key locations has had their judgment clouded by their distaste for Trump. Love him or hate him. The deep state stole it from him.
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7:39p, 4/21/22
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Can we actually keep this to election news instead of *****ing back and forth?
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In reply to TRM • 11:31p, 4/21/22
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Can you go back to the H-tine board?
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In reply to will25u • 8:28a, 4/22/22
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As with anything else with the phrase "Fact Check" in it, this is a head fake.

They are DEBOONKING this:

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In April 2022, posts shared online read: "SCREENSHOT BEFORE THIS GETS DELETED 46 of 50 states have now recounted and CONFIRMED that Biden lost the vote in their state. The media has not said ANYTHING about this and continues to ignore it."


VERDICT
False. Recounts of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election were not conducted in 46 states as recently claimed on social media posts.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts here.


Thats right. A professional news source is is "fact checking" ...."posts" online...with no citation to such posts or proof that they exist, just to editorialize and push a narrative.
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In reply to TRM • 9:07a, 4/22/22
TRM said:
Can we actually keep this to election news instead of *****ing back and forth?


No

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In reply to will25u • 9:17a, 4/22/22
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They think it is a slap in the face? I bet you Trump and anybody else that reads this is laughing their ass off. Nobody cares.


Clown slap... RT is short for news outlet Russian Times.
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3:14p, 4/23/22
Trump can pull a crowd.... Still.

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8:03p, 4/24/22
All paper, no machines, hand counted within hours.

And yet here in the states.... Hahaha.

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In reply to will25u • 1:51a, 4/25/22
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will25u said:
All paper, no machines, hand counted within hours.

And yet here in the states.... Hahaha.



Wonder how accurate? What are the checks and balances so we can learn and improve our processes
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In reply to ravingfans • 2:23p, 4/25/22
Bet a whole lot they require photo ID's!
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