*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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aggiehawg said:


Seem to remember someone on this thread banging this drum almost a year ago. Maybe you know her?
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LOL. What a difference a year makes.
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Faustus said:

I ran a Google search to see what I could track down.

If you put on your Bizarro hat and read these articles in the opposite voice, they likely have much of what you want.

The two footnotes (1 and 2) in the first link have the specific state and bills for expanding and tightening up voting procedures as of this past summer.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-july-2021

This year-end article from the same site (again read with your Bizarro hat on) is probably more on point with what you were after.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-december-2021

The footnotes again have cites to specific states/bills.

Faustus, this is awesome, thank you.
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aggiehawg said:

LOL. What a difference a year makes.
I never doubted you.
We fixed the keg
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aggiehawg said:

LOL. What a difference a year makes.
This whole thing should blow up.

* Runbeck uses one type of stock and prints only a count equal to the voter list provided. (so there should be no different paper or extras)
* Runbeck validates, mails, receives, and validates both before sent and when returned (so there should be no additional ballots received and delivered to MCBE)

So many questions....

* Who was ordering other ballots and from what companies?
* Who approved receiving 9 other types of ballots from God knows where that were not from their approved, Runbeck supplier?
* What if any validation was performed by those companies to match what we were fed by Runbeck?

I think we know it was all bull**** done under the table to defraud the count. This should show the MCBE as being complicit in the corruption and not just wildly incompetent.
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Keegan99 said:

Thanks.
I took a shot, hoped it was informative. Sometimes I get lucky.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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81 million... by far the most popular politician in US history.







..but don't worry. the trespassers are still in prison so democracy is safe!
We fixed the keg
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Brain dead morons...."I am safe from the virus in this magic circle and wearing this paper diaper on my face."
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My pleasure TS.
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Let's hope Brad has some...ahem...guards...because we all watched them cheating their a**es off (on screen) under his approving/certifying watch.

14 months ago.

Mountains of ballots (& Zuckerbucks) being thrown about like everybody was in the back of a VIP room:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/georgia-opens-investigation-possible-illegal-ballot-harvesting-2020
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richardag said:

Keegan99 said:

If there were ballots on counterfeit paper, then why was that fact not in the audit report to the Arizona Senate?
Overview of The Arizona Audit Report:
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Informational Findings Section:

In the Informational Findings portion of the report a multitude of issues were found, including large numbers of ballots also in question, procedural errors, and improper variations of ballots. The issues span from: early votes not accounted for in the EV33 (election data collection software), high bleed through rates on ballots, improper paper utilized, missing subpoena items, no record of voters in commercial database and real time provisional ballots. This portion of the report sheds light on more issues that further question the validity of the Maricopa County election results. Pages 48-61 of the report. Here's an overview of the Informational Findings:
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Improper Paper Utilized:
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A large number of the ballots from in-person voting, utilized paper that is not recommended by the manufacturer of the tabulators for use in the systems. This can result in higher jam rates, more bleed through, and could theoretically impact the readability of the ballots by the scanners, but this last case is extremely unlikely. At this time 10 different papers have been found. Several of these paper stocks include paper with the weight from 20lb to 30lbs; when the generally accepted best practice for voting is to utilize ballot stock of 80lbs or higher.





Thanks RA--great info!

Ever tried to buy 80 lb paper? Not really all that easy-- can't just go down the street to staples or office depot. Itis a special order item.

Now 20 lb--THAT you can buy locally all day long and many times 30 lb as well.

Withholding my Red Face this time but I'm steaming inside...
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ravingfans said:

richardag said:

Keegan99 said:

If there were ballots on counterfeit paper, then why was that fact not in the audit report to the Arizona Senate?
Overview of The Arizona Audit Report:
From the article:
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Informational Findings Section:

In the Informational Findings portion of the report a multitude of issues were found, including large numbers of ballots also in question, procedural errors, and improper variations of ballots. The issues span from: early votes not accounted for in the EV33 (election data collection software), high bleed through rates on ballots, improper paper utilized, missing subpoena items, no record of voters in commercial database and real time provisional ballots. This portion of the report sheds light on more issues that further question the validity of the Maricopa County election results. Pages 48-61 of the report. Here's an overview of the Informational Findings:
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Improper Paper Utilized:
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A large number of the ballots from in-person voting, utilized paper that is not recommended by the manufacturer of the tabulators for use in the systems. This can result in higher jam rates, more bleed through, and could theoretically impact the readability of the ballots by the scanners, but this last case is extremely unlikely. At this time 10 different papers have been found. Several of these paper stocks include paper with the weight from 20lb to 30lbs; when the generally accepted best practice for voting is to utilize ballot stock of 80lbs or higher.





Thanks RA--great info!

Ever tried to buy 80 lb paper? Not really all that easy-- can't just go down the street to staples or office depot. Itis a special order item.

Now 20 lb--THAT you can buy locally all day long and many times 30 lb as well.

Withholding my Red Face this time but I'm steaming inside...
The last ream of 80 Lb paper I bought I got at WalMart. No special order, I just walked in and picked it off the shelf. Why do you make it out like it's something hard to source?

A lot of the ballots were printed by the 3rd party outfit that the (Republican) Az Legislature hired to handle the Early Voting/Absentee Voting ballots. They admitted using a lighter weight paper for some ballots. This was known before the Cyber-Idiots even started looking for bamboo paper. It came out during the tempist in a teacup known as "Sharpie-Gate."

The more that comes out that the lying loser Trump knew the election wasn't stolen and was merely trying everything he could come up with to overturn a legitimate election, the worse it will look for whatever remains of the Republican party once all the stuff stops flying around after hitting the fan.
It is much easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that he has been fooled.
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Watermelon Man said:

ravingfans said:

richardag said:

Keegan99 said:

If there were ballots on counterfeit paper, then why was that fact not in the audit report to the Arizona Senate?
Overview of The Arizona Audit Report:
From the article:
Quote:

Informational Findings Section:

In the Informational Findings portion of the report a multitude of issues were found, including large numbers of ballots also in question, procedural errors, and improper variations of ballots. The issues span from: early votes not accounted for in the EV33 (election data collection software), high bleed through rates on ballots, improper paper utilized, missing subpoena items, no record of voters in commercial database and real time provisional ballots. This portion of the report sheds light on more issues that further question the validity of the Maricopa County election results. Pages 48-61 of the report. Here's an overview of the Informational Findings:
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Improper Paper Utilized:
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A large number of the ballots from in-person voting, utilized paper that is not recommended by the manufacturer of the tabulators for use in the systems. This can result in higher jam rates, more bleed through, and could theoretically impact the readability of the ballots by the scanners, but this last case is extremely unlikely. At this time 10 different papers have been found. Several of these paper stocks include paper with the weight from 20lb to 30lbs; when the generally accepted best practice for voting is to utilize ballot stock of 80lbs or higher.





Thanks RA--great info!

Ever tried to buy 80 lb paper? Not really all that easy-- can't just go down the street to staples or office depot. Itis a special order item.

Now 20 lb--THAT you can buy locally all day long and many times 30 lb as well.

Withholding my Red Face this time but I'm steaming inside...
The last ream of 80 Lb paper I bought I got at WalMart. No special order, I just walked in and picked it off the shelf. Why do you make it out like it's something hard to source?

A lot of the ballots were printed by the 3rd party outfit that the (Republican) Az Legislature hired to handle the Early Voting/Absentee Voting ballots. They admitted using a lighter weight paper for some ballots. This was known before the Cyber-Idiots even started looking for bamboo paper. It came out during the tempist in a teacup known as "Sharpie-Gate."

The more that comes out that the lying loser Trump knew the election wasn't stolen and was merely trying everything he could come up with to overturn a legitimate election, the worse it will look for whatever remains of the Republican party once all the stuff stops flying around after hitting the fan.


Thanks for identifying yourself as the new sock--helpful...

BTW, Staples.com, Officedepot.com and Walmart.com say otherwise. Staples (below) shows 20 lb readily available, 30 lb and 80 lb not available locally. Same for Walmart. Office depot does have 80 lb, but only in photo type glossy paper which would not be usable and too costly for an election scam with the qty of ballots being forged.



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So please provide a source for this information regarding alternate printers.

If this is even true, then we need to start digging into what their protocols are for handling ballots. And the first question to ask is, why would these companies print ballots on paper that is not recommended by the machine manufacturer? Who made that decision?
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peacedude said:

Let's hope Brad has some...ahem...guards...because we all watched them cheating their a**es off (on screen) under his approving/certifying watch.

14 months ago.

Mountains of ballots (& Zuckerbucks) being thrown about like everybody was in the back of a VIP room:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/georgia-opens-investigation-possible-illegal-ballot-harvesting-2020
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Also, video footage surfaced that led some to claim suitcases of fake ballots were pulled out from under a table in the Atlanta vote-counting center. In fact, the ballots were lawful absentee ballots cast by real voters.
  • Did I miss this proof these were legal ballots, not under bipartisan observation, let alone scanned multiple times?
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The harvesting probe is the latest twist in a remarkable election saga in Georgia, which rejected allegations of widespread fraud but acknowledged mismanagement in Fulton County. The Georgia Legislature then reformed its election laws in the aftermath of the 2020 election. Now, it must grapple with the question of whether some voting activists cheated by gathering lawful ballots in an unlawful manner.
  • This crap has been known for months with no action.
  • Georgia legislators need to push hard for a proper investigation.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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ravingfans said:

Watermelon Man said:

ravingfans said:

richardag said:

Keegan99 said:

If there were ballots on counterfeit paper, then why was that fact not in the audit report to the Arizona Senate?
Overview of The Arizona Audit Report:
From the article:
Quote:

Informational Findings Section:

In the Informational Findings portion of the report a multitude of issues were found, including large numbers of ballots also in question, procedural errors, and improper variations of ballots. The issues span from: early votes not accounted for in the EV33 (election data collection software), high bleed through rates on ballots, improper paper utilized, missing subpoena items, no record of voters in commercial database and real time provisional ballots. This portion of the report sheds light on more issues that further question the validity of the Maricopa County election results. Pages 48-61 of the report. Here's an overview of the Informational Findings:
edit to add
Quote:

Improper Paper Utilized:
Quote:

A large number of the ballots from in-person voting, utilized paper that is not recommended by the manufacturer of the tabulators for use in the systems. This can result in higher jam rates, more bleed through, and could theoretically impact the readability of the ballots by the scanners, but this last case is extremely unlikely. At this time 10 different papers have been found. Several of these paper stocks include paper with the weight from 20lb to 30lbs; when the generally accepted best practice for voting is to utilize ballot stock of 80lbs or higher.





Thanks RA--great info!

Ever tried to buy 80 lb paper? Not really all that easy-- can't just go down the street to staples or office depot. Itis a special order item.

Now 20 lb--THAT you can buy locally all day long and many times 30 lb as well.

Withholding my Red Face this time but I'm steaming inside...
The last ream of 80 Lb paper I bought I got at WalMart. No special order, I just walked in and picked it off the shelf. Why do you make it out like it's something hard to source?

A lot of the ballots were printed by the 3rd party outfit that the (Republican) Az Legislature hired to handle the Early Voting/Absentee Voting ballots. They admitted using a lighter weight paper for some ballots. This was known before the Cyber-Idiots even started looking for bamboo paper. It came out during the tempist in a teacup known as "Sharpie-Gate."

The more that comes out that the lying loser Trump knew the election wasn't stolen and was merely trying everything he could come up with to overturn a legitimate election, the worse it will look for whatever remains of the Republican party once all the stuff stops flying around after hitting the fan.


Thanks for identifying yourself as the new sock--helpful...

BTW, Staples.com, Officedepot.com and Walmart.com say otherwise. Staples (below) shows 20 lb readily available, 30 lb and 80 lb not available locally. Same for Walmart. Office depot does have 80 lb, but only in photo type glossy paper which would not be usable and too costly for an election scam with the qty of ballots being forged.




Opps someone got busted.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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My gift to you w/r to GA:

Bannon's guest just said Brad Raffensperger is now going to take the blame for everything, and have a presser to answer 1-hr's worth of reporter's questions (maybe under oath w/stakeholders also questioning him) after Kemp said he didn't want to touch it.

One of the whistleblowers came forward, so Brad's a** is on the line. Per the one whistleblower (these are things we mostly already knew):

240 3rd-party workers in GA
$45K avg payout per worker (in total)
$10 per ballot stuffed (illegally)

That's over ONE MILLION illegally stuffed ballots packed into the boxes.

Here's the kicker: in 2019 Brad did something wise, and said those drop-boxes must all be surveilled (and taped), so they have (and Brad's seen) the tapes of the criminals. The whistleblower apparently knows he's screwed, and $45K isn't worth it.

IIRC, maybe it was Kanye's sage advice. He (or someone else in hip-hop) said the Happy Faces people should come forward and fess up, because Biden is a complete (illegitimate) mess. Maybe he's listened to Kanye...

Clown Show any way you look at it.

Important: The gift has an expiration date in about 8-months. Remember, after 22-months the election records can be overwritten (deleted like they're already doing in CO).

ETA: Believe there are election officials (key stakeholders) that might be questioning Brad R.
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peacedude, thanks for another small ray of hope. Maybe at some point someone will be held accountable.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Quote:

Bannon's guest just said Brad Raffensperger is now going to take the blame for everything, and have a presser to answer 1-hr's worth of reporter's questions (maybe under oath w/stakeholders also questioning him) after Kemp said he didn't want to touch it.
Did the guest say when this press conference, possibly under oath, is taking place?
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BMX Bandit said:

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Bannon's guest just said Brad Raffensperger is now going to take the blame for everything, and have a presser to answer 1-hr's worth of reporter's questions (maybe under oath w/stakeholders also questioning him) after Kemp said he didn't want to touch it.
Did the guest say when this press conference, possibly under oath, is taking place?
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BMX Bandit said:

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Bannon's guest just said Brad Raffensperger is now going to take the blame for everything, and have a presser to answer 1-hr's worth of reporter's questions (maybe under oath w/stakeholders also questioning him) after Kemp said he didn't want to touch it.
Did the guest say when this press conference, possibly under oath, is taking place?
It was so fresh and new it's doubtful anyone knows, or even knows what to do.

Since Kemp said he wants no part of it, and Brad's supposedly taking the fall, him being under oath is a near certainty. He certified a fraudulent election that happened under his watch, but said it was totally legit (while having the tapes all along, I'd suspect).

Here's the initial part of the interview (last 3m):
https://americasvoice.news/video/TjlktGa2ZrRoUSQ

Remainder of the interview + Andy Biggs:
https://americasvoice.news/video/1tzlvP7QyZJOwoq
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Watermelon Man said:

ravingfans said:

richardag said:

Keegan99 said:

If there were ballots on counterfeit paper, then why was that fact not in the audit report to the Arizona Senate?
Overview of The Arizona Audit Report:
From the article:
Quote:

Informational Findings Section:

In the Informational Findings portion of the report a multitude of issues were found, including large numbers of ballots also in question, procedural errors, and improper variations of ballots. The issues span from: early votes not accounted for in the EV33 (election data collection software), high bleed through rates on ballots, improper paper utilized, missing subpoena items, no record of voters in commercial database and real time provisional ballots. This portion of the report sheds light on more issues that further question the validity of the Maricopa County election results. Pages 48-61 of the report. Here's an overview of the Informational Findings:
edit to add
Quote:

Improper Paper Utilized:
Quote:

A large number of the ballots from in-person voting, utilized paper that is not recommended by the manufacturer of the tabulators for use in the systems. This can result in higher jam rates, more bleed through, and could theoretically impact the readability of the ballots by the scanners, but this last case is extremely unlikely. At this time 10 different papers have been found. Several of these paper stocks include paper with the weight from 20lb to 30lbs; when the generally accepted best practice for voting is to utilize ballot stock of 80lbs or higher.





Thanks RA--great info!

Ever tried to buy 80 lb paper? Not really all that easy-- can't just go down the street to staples or office depot. Itis a special order item.

Now 20 lb--THAT you can buy locally all day long and many times 30 lb as well.

Withholding my Red Face this time but I'm steaming inside...
The last ream of 80 Lb paper I bought I got at WalMart. No special order, I just walked in and picked it off the shelf. Why do you make it out like it's something hard to source?

A lot of the ballots were printed by the 3rd party outfit that the (Republican) Az Legislature hired to handle the Early Voting/Absentee Voting ballots. They admitted using a lighter weight paper for some ballots. This was known before the Cyber-Idiots even started looking for bamboo paper. It came out during the tempist in a teacup known as "Sharpie-Gate."

The more that comes out that the lying loser Trump knew the election wasn't stolen and was merely trying everything he could come up with to overturn a legitimate election, the worse it will look for whatever remains of the Republican party once all the stuff stops flying around after hitting the fan.
Republicans Lead 48%-39% on the Congressional Ballot
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so Bannon says "we don't want to push hopium" then lets a guy claim Raffensberger is going to get religion and admit to all these crimes at a press conference?

and you think there is a chance that actually happens?
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Honestly, I wasn't even paying attention to Bannon 13-months ago when we figured it might end up in the state's hands (~ 27-23 if SCOTUS had listened to Texas' case).

That said, what if it's 6-7 states by the end of the month...just ahead of the 2/5 budget ceiling/debt vote?

Lots of election fraud news recently, especially as special sessions commence. Eight months until election data deletion can legally occur, so they're suddenly active (sadly).

Too much for SCOTUS to ignore, IMO, especially if the 1/6 narrative keeps falling apart as fast as it is.

Add: The whistleblower also said he helped rig the senate runoff elections.
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really have no idea what any of that has to do with this claim Raffensberger is about to confess to all the leftists did.
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BMX Bandit said:

really have no idea what any of that has to do with this claim Raffensberger is about to confess to all the leftists did.
Juuust kidding.

https://admissions.tamu.edu/
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Zero chance this Raffy presser happens. That reads like Trump fan fiction.
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BMX Bandit said:

so Bannon says "we don't want to push hopium" then lets a guy claim Raffensberger is going to get religion and admit to all these crimes at a press conference?

and you think there is a chance that actually happens?
Ummmmm limme think....... No

Bannon is just trying to fill the coffers, he'll figure out how to generate some funding off this snipe hunt too.

Raffensberger is no more going to admit committing a felony than a man in the moon. To me Bannon i poison and toxic to the party. The democrats have basically handed the house and the senate to the republicans by overplaying their hand like they always do and as long as the conservatives don't screw it up and just concentrate on the 2022 election and quit dwelling on 2020 just learn from it and don't let it happen again.

Was there fraud n 2020, sure there was but the republicans got caught sleeping at the wheel, and didn't have the legal teams and boots on the ground they needed. They thought Trump was a shoe in as he well should have been running against the basement dweller but got caught being lazy and complacent. Once they gain the house and the senate back then they can let the real investigations being into all the other crap. But most of all they will have neutered Mr Potato head and the left is going to be a trainwreck if Pelosi and Hoyer leave
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This can't be!

We have a little over 3 months until April 1st. Maybe there is a tad bit of Raffensberger that's still a good man, but I doubt it.
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Couldn't see Raff admitting any culpability.

Could see him saying new evidence has emerged showing X happened. Especially if he's done the math and realized he's in trouble against Abrams.

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BMX Bandit said:

really have no idea what any of that has to do with this claim Raffensberger is about to confess to all the leftists did.
Why would Brad have to confess if they caught it all on tape?

This went live (in GA, specifically) in 2018:
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3405580/what-is-the-cisa-how-the-new-federal-agency-protects-critical-infrastructure-from-cyber-threats.html

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Maricopa County held a 4 hour press conference yesterday where they covered all the lies and faulty conclusions in the "Cyber Ninjas"* "Audit". They also provided a 94 page report. report. https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/pdf/Correcting%20The%20Record%20-%20January%202022%20Report.pdf





Cyber Ninjas no longer exists, entering bankruptcy. Doug Logan has been ordered to pay sanctions for failing to turn over documents to the Arizona Senate.

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https://cyberninjas.com/category/press-release/
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Oh look, a rookie posting a rebuttal. This should be quite unbiased.
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