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BREAKING REPORT: Racine County Sheriff Files CRIMINAL CHARGES Against 5 of 6 Members of Wisconsin Elections Commission stemming from 2020 election violations...

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) November 24, 2021

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From Racine County Sheriff's Office Announced Criminal Charges Against WI Election Commission Members - Wire Daily News

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The Racine sheriff's department has announced charges to be filed against members of the WI election commission over a voter-fraud scheme that took place in an assisted living community.

The families of eight Ridgewood Care Center residents in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin told investigators their loved ones did not have the capacity to vote but cast ballots anyway. And in some cases, ballots were cast in November, for residents who had passed away in October.

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Misconduct in public office (felony)
Election fraud election official assisting with violations (felony)
Party to the crime of election fraud receive ballot non-election official (misdemeanor)
Party to the crime of election fraud illegal ballot receipt (misdemeanor)
Party to the crime of election fraud solicit assistance (misdemeanor)

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Schmaling's office has requested Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul investigate alleged illegal directives issued by the commission, particularly not to use the Special Voting Deputy process, which is when the clerk of each municipality brings "enough ballots to each residential care facility to vote" and "assist the voters with the voting process," according to a commission letter that the sheriff displayed in a PowerPoint attached to the Dropbox in the Facebook post.

The commission instead had absentee ballots sent to the resident by mail.

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will25u said:

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BREAKING REPORT: Racine County Sheriff Files CRIMINAL CHARGES Against 5 of 6 Members of Wisconsin Elections Commission stemming from 2020 election violations...

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) November 24, 2021

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Is this real? If you google (or even duckduckgo) this there isn't much information. Even went to their FB page and there's no information on this. I sure hope it's true but weird that there's not much out there on it.

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will25u said:

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BREAKING REPORT: Racine County Sheriff Files CRIMINAL CHARGES Against 5 of 6 Members of Wisconsin Elections Commission stemming from 2020 election violations...

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) November 24, 2021

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Is this real? If you google (or even duckduckgo) this there isn't much information. Even went to their FB page and there's no information on this. I sure hope it's true but weird that there's not much out there on it.

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Looks legit....from a CBS station.

Racine sheriff recommends charges against Wisconsin's election commissioners (cbs58.com)

Edit to add....all the stories I find are from 3 or 4 weeks ago.

PA: " ... documented evidence of a conspiracy to “destroy, delete, secrete (sic), alter, hide and/or obscure election data, materials, equipment, ... in order to prevent the discovery of the fraudulent results of the November 3, 2020 election ..."
https://t.co/embkuMadav

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) November 24, 2021

Another Jones entity than paid $680k to Fusion & Yonder to spread disinformation to impact the 2020 election.
Yonder was caught pretending to be Russian trolls interfering in the 2017 Alabama Senate race. Wonder if they were the Russian trolls in 2016 too?https://t.co/GCEvZh3XIe

— DawsonSField (@DawsonSField) November 29, 2021

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Another Jones entity than paid $680k to Fusion & Yonder to spread disinformation to impact the 2020 election.
Yonder was caught pretending to be Russian trolls interfering in the 2017 Alabama Senate race. Wonder if they were the Russian trolls in 2016 too?https://t.co/GCEvZh3XIe

— DawsonSField (@DawsonSField) November 29, 2021

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If true this is another piece of confirming these people are entirely and irrevocably corrupt.

DOJ Prosecutors Using Grand Jury to Subpoena Financial Records of 2020 Election Audit Groupshttps://t.co/wfSaowe7Or

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) November 30, 2021

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DOJ Prosecutors Using Grand Jury to Subpoena Financial Records of 2020 Election Audit Groupshttps://t.co/wfSaowe7Or

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) November 30, 2021

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of course the Marxists need to destroy political opposition who dare to attempt to find out the truth.

Do not ask questions. Do not audit. Do not propose law changes for more controls and less fraud risk. ...or you will be punished. The election was the most secure and fair ever. No need to audit. Take the regime's word for it or else.

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More Votes Counted Than Cast in Georgia 2020 General Election, Analysis of State Voter Data Shows https://t.co/IcmsFMNIYw

— Kevin Moncla (@KevinMoncla) December 1, 2021

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Shocker given the actions of the Momma daughter team in Fulton County

NM.

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ugh. this was known on election night ffs. it was known in the weeks after. it was caught on video.

we know the people who did it, Ruby Freeman and her daughter. They were subpoenaed to give a deposition.

still <crickets>

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Ruby Freeman now suing

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/two-georgia-election-workers-sue-far-right-website-over-false-fraud-allegations-2021-12-02/

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ugh. this was known on election night ffs. it was known in the weeks after. it was caught on video.

we know the people who did it, Ruby Freeman and her daughter. They were subpoenaed to give a deposition.

still <crickets>

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Ruby Freeman now suing

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/two-georgia-election-workers-sue-far-right-website-over-false-fraud-allegations-2021-12-02/

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I would think that's a bad idea for her since she'd be deposed. I believe that's what the county lawyers didn't want in the Favorito lawsuit.

light reading for your afternoon trip to the head

https://protectdemocracy.org/resource-library/document/petition-for-filing-fighting-defamation-aimed-at-election-workers/

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BadMoonRisin said:

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ugh. this was known on election night ffs. it was known in the weeks after. it was caught on video.

we know the people who did it, Ruby Freeman and her daughter. They were subpoenaed to give a deposition.

still <crickets>

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Ruby Freeman now suing

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/two-georgia-election-workers-sue-far-right-website-over-false-fraud-allegations-2021-12-02/

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That's a bad move on her part, IMO.

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Why? Should they be afraid of discovery? I would expect all their correspondence before during and after the election will be requested?

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BadMoonRisin said:

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ugh. this was known on election night ffs. it was known in the weeks after. it was caught on video.

we know the people who did it, Ruby Freeman and her daughter. They were subpoenaed to give a deposition.

still <crickets>

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Ruby Freeman now suing

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/two-georgia-election-workers-sue-far-right-website-over-false-fraud-allegations-2021-12-02/

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That's a bad move on her part, IMO.

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Why? Should they be afraid of discovery? I would expect all their correspondence before during and after the election will be requested?

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Yes. Discovery and depositions. If they have spoilied evidence (bet money on that) that could be a big issue for them.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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ugh. this was known on election night ffs. it was known in the weeks after. it was caught on video.

we know the people who did it, Ruby Freeman and her daughter. They were subpoenaed to give a deposition.

still <crickets>

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Ruby Freeman now suing

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/two-georgia-election-workers-sue-far-right-website-over-false-fraud-allegations-2021-12-02/

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That's a bad move on her part, IMO.

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Why? Should they be afraid of discovery? I would expect all their correspondence before during and after the election will be requested?

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Yes. Discovery and depositions. If they have spoilied evidence (bet money on that) that could be a big issue for them.

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Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

Georgia elections head sues feds over voting law records

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Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger sued the U.S. Department of Justice on Wednesday over its response to his request for documents that he believes could show political motivations behind a federal lawsuit against the state's voting law.

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Raffensperger's court action is the latest reaction to a major lawsuit filed by the Justice Department in June that is trying to strike down Georgia's voting law, alleging it targeted Black voters by limiting absentee voting with additional voter ID requirements, shorter deadlines, fewer drop boxes, provisional ballot rejections and a ban on handing out food or drinks to voters waiting in line.

"Considering how blatantly political the Biden lawsuit against Georgia's commonsense election law was from the beginning, it's no surprise they would stonewall our request for basic transparency," Raffensperger said.

Raffensperger had filed a Freedom of Information Act request in August for communications between the Justice Department and 62 individuals and organizations, including Democrat Stacey Abrams, Fair Fight Action, the Black Voters Matter Trust Fund, the 6th District of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the League of Women Voters of Georgia, Latino Community Fund Georgia and Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Inc., a politically active Black sorority.

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BMX Bandit said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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ugh. this was known on election night ffs. it was known in the weeks after. it was caught on video.

we know the people who did it, Ruby Freeman and her daughter. They were subpoenaed to give a deposition.

still <crickets>

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Ruby Freeman now suing

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/two-georgia-election-workers-sue-far-right-website-over-false-fraud-allegations-2021-12-02/

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I love how the headline flatly states the fraud allegations are "false".

They know this...how?

Not election 2020, but still good news. Seems like Democrats are in for a long 2022.

Virginia GOP completes sweep of elections with House win

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A three-judge panel overseeing a recount in a close Virginia state House race upheld the Republican candidate's victory on Friday, a decision that also reaffirms the GOP's takeover of the chamber and completes the party's sweep of last month's elections.

Republicans also claimed the statewide offices of governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general in the Nov. 2 balloting. Those wins were a dramatic turnaround in a state where the GOP had not won a statewide race since 2009. Democrats still hold a 21-19 majority in the Senate where elections won't be held until 2023 splitting control of Virginia's state legislature.

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Hmm. If the law was clear and VP Pence had no authority to do a damn thing then why do they feel the need to amend the Electoral Count Act?

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A bipartisan coalition of state and local lawmakers is also on board, as are some organizations that study election issues, including Issue One and the National Task Force on Election Crises.

In documents circulated on Capitol Hill, the task force which calls the Electoral Count Act "severely flawed" proposes several broad changes. The suggestions include limiting the grounds for a lawmaker to object to counting a state's votes and clarifying that the vice president's role in the process is merely ministerial, and thus lacking the authority to unilaterally throw out a state's votes. It has also recommended setting clearer time limits for states to choose electors.

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The effort could be the focus of Congress's next attempt to change election law, after Republicans blocked legislation to establish nationwide standards for ballot access in response to voting restrictions being enacted at the state level, and a narrower measure to restore parts of the landmark Voting Rights Act weakened by Supreme Court rulings.

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Unlike those bills, there is significant support among Republicans outside of Congress for overhauling the Electoral Count Act, though no Republican in Congress has publicly endorsed a rewrite.

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WTH is that supposed to mean? Never Trumpers support this but actual elected Republicans do not? Well it is from the NYT, so truth is optional.

Via Hot Air Link

The run in sentence law was not clear at all (As you pointed out astutely at the time). But what is clear in that law and constitution is that Pence had no power to reject electoral votes on his own as Trump wanted.

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The run in sentence law was not clear at all (As you pointed out astutely at the time). But what is clear in that law and constitution is that Pence had no power to reject electoral votes on his own as Trump wanted.

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Maybe maybe not. That's the problem with ambiguous laws.

Point being, the Electoral Act needs to be challenged and have SCOTUS declare it unconstitutional and lay out the grounds. Then Congress can come back and pass a replacement act with that guidance.

That won't happen, of course, because no one has standing to challenge it in court, apparently.

Dems will at some point do the thing Pence refused to do, so we'll get to see exactly how it could have happened. Of that I have no doubt.

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Dems will at some point do the thing Pence refused to do, so we'll get to see exactly how it could have happened. Of that I have no doubt.

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That's the argument Ginsberg is making.

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Donald Trump should want the Electoral Count Act of 1887 amended. And he should want it done even though his some of his Democratic opponents may want the same thing.

Designed to govern Congress's tabulation of Electoral College votes including disputes between the chambers the aged law is a swamp of ambiguity. Its byzantine, vague, and muddled provisions do not provide sufficient answers to crucial questions that could arise in a genuinely close election. Despite the fact that the former president's attempts to exploit those shortcomings failed in 2020, he and all Republicans should be haunted by the blueprint that he has created for his opponents if he were to run for office again in 2024.

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Republicans should not deceive themselves by thinking the current state of this law automatically works to their advantage. While many of them used it offensively on January 6, 2021, they did so because they were trailing in Electoral College votes. They poked at real flaws, and while not successful because the vice president rebuffed Trump's legally unsupportable command that the states' certifications be rejected, Republicans did show how the system can be maneuvered.

Republicans should be in favor of clarifying the system now, if for no other reason than they will not be in as strong a position as they were in 2020.

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How, then, should we go about fixing the ECA's flaws? I propose that the law should be amended to define clearly:

• The vice president's role;
• the congressional process for deciding between competing slates of electors from the same state and who each state's "executive" is i.e., the party that will maintain the power to certify the slate of electors (a governor and secretary of state from different parties could each claim they are the "executive");
• whether a "majority" of the Electoral College is all 538 electors or only those present and voting;
• if choosing the president fell to the House, with a single vote for each state, could a majority of members prevent the swearing-in of minority of members (who nonetheless represented more states, as was the case in 2020) so that the majority's presidential candidate would win;
• whether a state can hold an election after Election Day if it claims that Electoral College results were tainted;
• the "safe harbor" provision so that a state certifying its electors before that date cannot later have its decision usurped by Congress;
• whether the threshold for objecting to electors should be increased to more than one member from each chamber;
• grounds for congressional objections to electors so that only questions of fraud or bribery meet the threshold and disagreement with the popular-vote results does not; and
• rules for resolving disputes between the chambers so that split control of Congress does not cripple the nation.

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Here we go. Judge overturns election!https://t.co/B8rMlUs7gH

— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) December 6, 2021

So, fraud does vitiate everything?

What a concept!

Let's hope some "justices" have family & trusted friends in their ear over the holidays telling them how important all of this is.