*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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Thermal Pope said:

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I bet the people who support lack of security and controls around systems and processes that are ripe for fraud and DGAF about so many Americans being disenfranchised, because it sure seems like their votes don't matter anyway, are happy they have heroes like Thermal Pope defending their honor on Texags.com. They already have the support of giant monopolies and global conglomerates who have thrived while smaller competition has been forced out of business. They already have their Marxist division and political opponent vilification and suppression well in control with their msm propaganda arm and their tech platform monopolies doing their bidding. But now, now they have the support of Thermal Pope on Texags to defend the fraud and convince you that 81 million biden votes- by far the most popular politician in US history, as well as the senate votes in AZ, GA, etc. despite R's gaining so many house seats and every close house race in the same election, were legit meaning Americans really wanted the destruction of itself and to build back better communist. Senile old corrupt career politicians who are owned by Marxists is exactly what America was so enthusiastic about because that's what we need right now. I wonder what Thermal Pope gets for the hard work and heroics..


There was no fraud on the scale you mean. It would be impossible to pull off. It didn't happen. Cyber Ninjas finding nothing is more proof. Do you know how insane these theories dreamed up on the internet sound to us normals?

Vote switching machines, bamboo ballots, servers in Germany, Italian satellites... all with zero evidence we humored lunatics that don't have a combined hour of election experience. 6 months and $10 million were wasted in Maricopa.


you're being obtuse if you think that report found nothing.

That report makes no mention servers in Germany or Italian satellites, yet you call yourself "normal".

The report states audit findings. No audit report "dreamed up theories".

You are the lunatic.

Continue celebrating Marxist tactics and the end of the country you hate so much.
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If everything was run so well, then why inhibit the audit, delete data no election data was deleted, ignore court orders, etc? The actions of the county officials fighting the audit rather than working with the auditors shows either guilt or incompetence.
The Republican BOS welcomed the audit initially, this is confirmed by public statements as well as private messages uncovered between the Senate and MCBOS in FOIA suits. Until they learned the Senate planned to hire unqualified groups and individuals(ZERO election experience), some of them rabid Qanon conspiracy theorists, who announced their conclusions before starting on the work.

Stephen Richers is the Maricopa County Recorder now in charge of elections. He beat the Democrat in the 2020 election. He campaigned for Trump, voted for Trump, and led registration drives. He publicly called for an audit in November. Here is his reasoning for not cooperating:

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It's tempting to say, "if there's nothing to hide, then why do you care if the Ninjas take a look?"



This argument is even stronger in my case because presumably any wrongdoing wouldn't have been my fault, as I didn't take office until two months after the election in question. If only it were that easy. My public efforts were precipitated by the false accusations of unlawfulness made by the audit's Twitter account on May 12one of many harmful acts from an allegedly harmless endeavor.

First, the Cyber Ninjas had zero experience doing election audits. Zero. The importance of this cannot be overstated.
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Finally and the absurdity of this is mind bogglingthe Ninjas appeared in a conspiracy-theory film about the election, and allowed the film to be shot at the audit, while performing the audit. The film, called "The Deep Rig," alleges that the entire 2020 election was stolen, including Arizona. It is directed by Roger Richards, whose limited previous filmography includes a movie allegedly exposing the workings of "the deep state,"98 as well as movie alleging extraterrestrial involvement in the September 11 terrorist attacks and that the Nazis had a settlement on the moon and Mars.

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On my seventh day of office, Tuesday, January 12, I received a subpoena at 4:00 PM without any noticedemanding my appearance the next morning at the Arizona Senate together with the Board of Supervisors and the County Treasurer. Elected Republicans took to social media to alert the Stop the Steal crowd that it was these subpoenaed people who were resisting the examination of a stolen election. That alert led to death threats, which led to my first-ever car ride with a security detail. I'd instructed my Office to comply with all terms of the subpoena, and even though we produced almost all of the materials sought from us within 72-hours of the subpoena, I had officially been branded an enemy, and therefore I was seemingly fair game for harassment and threats (and so too my wife).
https://recorder.maricopa.gov/pdf/Dear%20Arizona%20Republicans_August%202021.pdf







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Interesting response from Mr. Richer.

First, he cites several articles from sources that have obvious leftist bias.

His term January 6 "riot" sits wrong for someone who went door to door campaigning for Trump. Why is January 6 a "riot" but the actual riots during the previous summer, including an assault on the White House and multiple federal buildings on the West Coast, "mostly peaceful protests". This is a deflection, but since it was mentioned in the cited paper, it gives some sense of his actual underlying viewpoint.

Likewise he complained about Trump using mistaken information about deleted ballots in a speech, but he doesn't seem to have issues with Democrats lying about Trump for four years plus with information that had repeatedly been proven false (such as Russian collusion, good people on both sides, etc). The Democrats set the rules. If Trump is playing by their rules, but this guy doesn't like it, then too bad. Edit to add, I don't like these misrepresentations either, but based upon the Richer Report's reason for Trump losing, the Democrat's effective use of lies lost the election for Trump with many Republicans in AZ. Any Republican that voted for the communist (Saunders) platform of the Biden campaign over Trump was an idiot who didn't bother to do the most basic research into what he was voting for. With the MSM propaganda for the Democrats, Republicans will not win against the Democrat big lies by running a clean campaign without resorting to some of the precedents set by the Democrats. Richer describes this quite well in this report.

Most interesting is Appendix A where he gives a list of items to make elections more secure. Much of the list addresses items of concern in the Cyber Ninjas audit, such as chain of custody of ballots.
He writes a paper about how much he hates the audit and the auditors, but then he lists that the problems pointed out in the audit as areas that need to be addressed to ensure fair elections. Appendix A seems to justify the Cyber Ninjas audit conclusions.

This paper reads like a guy's feelings were hurt so he decided that he didn't want to play any more.

The fix was described by Democrats in a Time magazine article. The stolen election was extremely well organized, it included grass roots illegal ballot harvesting up to to pure propaganda and censorship in the news media. The CN audit report and Appendix A in Richer's paper just touches on one aspect of irregularities in the 2020 election.
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First, he cites several articles from sources that have obvious leftist bias.
Irrelevant to his reasoning and decision to not cooperate with unqualified conspiracy freaks with a predetermined outcome. Doug Logan's online Q history is well documented.

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His term January 6 "riot" sits wrong for someone who went door to door campaigning for Trump.
Not really since there was a riot by most definitions and time is linear.

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Most interesting is Appendix A where he gives a list of items to make elections more secure. Much of the list addresses items of concern in the Cyber Ninjas audit, such as chain of custody of ballots.
Appendix A is not a list of suggestions to make elections more secure. It's a list of existing policies.

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There are many other checks and securities in the system some of which I wasn't aware of prior to taking office. I've attached a non-exhaustive, but thorough list in Appendix A. Page 5
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He writes a paper about how much he hates the audit and the auditors, but then he lists that the problems pointed out in the audit as areas that need to be addressed to ensure fair elections. Appendix A seems to justify the Cyber Ninjas audit conclusions.

Wrong. See above.
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BuddysBud said:

Interesting response from Mr. Richer.

First, he cites several articles from sources that have obvious leftist bias.

His term January 6 "riot" sits wrong for someone who went door to door campaigning for Trump. Why is January 6 a "riot" but the actual riots during the previous summer, including an assault on the White House and multiple federal buildings on the West Coast, "mostly peaceful protests". This is a deflection, but since it was mentioned in the cited paper, it gives some sense of his actual underlying viewpoint.

Likewise he complained about Trump using mistaken information about deleted ballots in a speech, but he doesn't seem to have issues with Democrats lying about Trump for four years plus with information that had repeatedly been proven false (such as Russian collusion, good people on both sides, etc). The Democrats set the rules. If Trump is playing by their rules, but this guy doesn't like it, then too bad. Edit to add, I don't like these misrepresentations either, but based upon the Richer Report's reason for Trump losing, the Democrat's effective use of lies lost the election for Trump with many Republicans in AZ. Any Republican that voted for the communist (Saunders) platform of the Biden campaign over Trump was an idiot who didn't bother to do the most basic research into what he was voting for. With the MSM propaganda for the Democrats, Republicans will not win against the Democrat big lies by running a clean campaign without resorting to some of the precedents set by the Democrats. Richer describes this quite well in this report.

Most interesting is Appendix A where he gives a list of items to make elections more secure. Much of the list addresses items of concern in the Cyber Ninjas audit, such as chain of custody of ballots.
He writes a paper about how much he hates the audit and the auditors, but then he lists that the problems pointed out in the audit as areas that need to be addressed to ensure fair elections. Appendix A seems to justify the Cyber Ninjas audit conclusions.

This paper reads like a guy's feelings were hurt so he decided that he didn't want to play any more.

The fix was described by Democrats in a Time magazine article. The stolen election was extremely well organized, it included grass roots illegal ballot harvesting up to to pure propaganda and censorship in the news media. The CN audit report and Appendix A in Richer's paper just touches on one aspect of irregularities in the 2020 election.
Ballot harvesting is legal in some places and illegal in others. In many places, you are permitted to do ballot harvesting for relatives. That someone delivered a ballot for someone that it was illegal for him to deliver in that state doesn't mean that there was any change of vote.

Sure. If it's illegal, then put a stop to it. But unless you have evidence that votes were changed by it, then you cannot consider it to have changed anything.
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Thermal Pope said:

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First, he cites several articles from sources that have obvious leftist bias.
Irrelevant to his reasoning and decision to not cooperate with unqualified conspiracy freaks with a predetermined outcome. Doug Logan's online Q history is well documented.

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His term January 6 "riot" sits wrong for someone who went door to door campaigning for Trump.
Not really since there was a riot by most definitions and time is linear.

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Most interesting is Appendix A where he gives a list of items to make elections more secure. Much of the list addresses items of concern in the Cyber Ninjas audit, such as chain of custody of ballots.
Appendix A is not a list of suggestions to make elections more secure. It's a list of existing policies.

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There are many other checks and securities in the system some of which I wasn't aware of prior to taking office. I've attached a non-exhaustive, but thorough list in Appendix A. Page 5
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He writes a paper about how much he hates the audit and the auditors, but then he lists that the problems pointed out in the audit as areas that need to be addressed to ensure fair elections. Appendix A seems to justify the Cyber Ninjas audit conclusions.

Wrong. See above.


The MSM is relevant because they have been sources of even greater misinformation that benefits the Democrats than the Q trash (Russia collusion, misquoting the former president, impeachment over a nothing phone call, ignoring Biden's past corruption, burying Hunter's laptop information, not questioning the Biden art auction, ignoring Joe Biden's dementia, ignoring Biden's plagiarism, ignoring Biden's past racist comments, never questioning why Biden never left his basement to campaign, never questioning the total lack of interest by the public in the Biden campaign, never investigating Biden's Ukrainian deals, very limited reporting of the 2020 Democrat platform, . . .). The MSM was complicit with the election fraud (https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/).

The inconsistencies of the January 6 reporting is another topic.

I misunderstood the purpose of Appendix A because it wasn't clear in the heading. The conclusions of the audit were that many of these procedures were not followed correctly.

Is Mr Richer going just to complain because they didn't use the audit firm he wanted or is he going to use his position to ensure that the procedures are followed correctly next time?
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eric76 said:

BuddysBud said:

Interesting response from Mr. Richer.

First, he cites several articles from sources that have obvious leftist bias.

His term January 6 "riot" sits wrong for someone who went door to door campaigning for Trump. Why is January 6 a "riot" but the actual riots during the previous summer, including an assault on the White House and multiple federal buildings on the West Coast, "mostly peaceful protests". This is a deflection, but since it was mentioned in the cited paper, it gives some sense of his actual underlying viewpoint.

Likewise he complained about Trump using mistaken information about deleted ballots in a speech, but he doesn't seem to have issues with Democrats lying about Trump for four years plus with information that had repeatedly been proven false (such as Russian collusion, good people on both sides, etc). The Democrats set the rules. If Trump is playing by their rules, but this guy doesn't like it, then too bad. Edit to add, I don't like these misrepresentations either, but based upon the Richer Report's reason for Trump losing, the Democrat's effective use of lies lost the election for Trump with many Republicans in AZ. Any Republican that voted for the communist (Saunders) platform of the Biden campaign over Trump was an idiot who didn't bother to do the most basic research into what he was voting for. With the MSM propaganda for the Democrats, Republicans will not win against the Democrat big lies by running a clean campaign without resorting to some of the precedents set by the Democrats. Richer describes this quite well in this report.

Most interesting is Appendix A where he gives a list of items to make elections more secure. Much of the list addresses items of concern in the Cyber Ninjas audit, such as chain of custody of ballots.
He writes a paper about how much he hates the audit and the auditors, but then he lists that the problems pointed out in the audit as areas that need to be addressed to ensure fair elections. Appendix A seems to justify the Cyber Ninjas audit conclusions.

This paper reads like a guy's feelings were hurt so he decided that he didn't want to play any more.

The fix was described by Democrats in a Time magazine article. The stolen election was extremely well organized, it included grass roots illegal ballot harvesting up to to pure propaganda and censorship in the news media. The CN audit report and Appendix A in Richer's paper just touches on one aspect of irregularities in the 2020 election.
Ballot harvesting is legal in some places and illegal in others. In many places, you are permitted to do ballot harvesting for relatives. That someone delivered a ballot for someone that it was illegal for him to deliver in that state doesn't mean that there was any change of vote.

Sure. If it's illegal, then put a stop to it. But unless you have evidence that votes were changed by it, then you cannot consider it to have changed anything.


I did say illegal. Ballot harvesting is a great way to disenfranchise voters by harvesting votes from people who are cognitively incapable of voting or wouldn't have voted. The only reason it would be legal is to corrupt the election process so that those in power remain in power.

Where it is legal, then the party with the best harvesters should win.

It is not legal and n Texas, yet it was done in Harris and Bexar Counties. And people have been and are being prosecuted for it. Why would a county prosecutor who benefits from the illegal practices investigate? Media outlets that blatantly promote the side that benefits from harvesting don't investigate or report it, and the state DA has only a few people to investigate hundreds of known cases.
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BuddysBud said:

eric76 said:

BuddysBud said:

Interesting response from Mr. Richer.

First, he cites several articles from sources that have obvious leftist bias.

His term January 6 "riot" sits wrong for someone who went door to door campaigning for Trump. Why is January 6 a "riot" but the actual riots during the previous summer, including an assault on the White House and multiple federal buildings on the West Coast, "mostly peaceful protests". This is a deflection, but since it was mentioned in the cited paper, it gives some sense of his actual underlying viewpoint.

Likewise he complained about Trump using mistaken information about deleted ballots in a speech, but he doesn't seem to have issues with Democrats lying about Trump for four years plus with information that had repeatedly been proven false (such as Russian collusion, good people on both sides, etc). The Democrats set the rules. If Trump is playing by their rules, but this guy doesn't like it, then too bad. Edit to add, I don't like these misrepresentations either, but based upon the Richer Report's reason for Trump losing, the Democrat's effective use of lies lost the election for Trump with many Republicans in AZ. Any Republican that voted for the communist (Saunders) platform of the Biden campaign over Trump was an idiot who didn't bother to do the most basic research into what he was voting for. With the MSM propaganda for the Democrats, Republicans will not win against the Democrat big lies by running a clean campaign without resorting to some of the precedents set by the Democrats. Richer describes this quite well in this report.

Most interesting is Appendix A where he gives a list of items to make elections more secure. Much of the list addresses items of concern in the Cyber Ninjas audit, such as chain of custody of ballots.
He writes a paper about how much he hates the audit and the auditors, but then he lists that the problems pointed out in the audit as areas that need to be addressed to ensure fair elections. Appendix A seems to justify the Cyber Ninjas audit conclusions.

This paper reads like a guy's feelings were hurt so he decided that he didn't want to play any more.

The fix was described by Democrats in a Time magazine article. The stolen election was extremely well organized, it included grass roots illegal ballot harvesting up to to pure propaganda and censorship in the news media. The CN audit report and Appendix A in Richer's paper just touches on one aspect of irregularities in the 2020 election.
Ballot harvesting is legal in some places and illegal in others. In many places, you are permitted to do ballot harvesting for relatives. That someone delivered a ballot for someone that it was illegal for him to deliver in that state doesn't mean that there was any change of vote.

Sure. If it's illegal, then put a stop to it. But unless you have evidence that votes were changed by it, then you cannot consider it to have changed anything.


I did say illegal. Ballot harvesting is a great way to disenfranchise voters by harvesting votes from people who are cognitively incapable of voting or wouldn't have voted. The only reason it would be legal is to corrupt the election process so that those in power remain in power.

Where it is legal, then the party with the best harvesters should win.

It is not legal and n Texas, yet it was done in Harris and Bexar Counties. And people have been and are being prosecuted for it. Why would a county prosecutor who benefits from the illegal practices investigate? Media outlets that blatantly promote the side that benefits from harvesting don't investigate or report it, and the state DA has only a few people to investigate hundreds of known cases.
You clearly haven't the foggiest idea what ballot harvesting even is.

It IS perfectly legal in Texas in many cases (or at least was legal for the 2020 electon -- I haven't looked to see if this was changed by the recent changes to voting laws in Texas):
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(1) related to the voter within the second degree by affinity or the third degree by consanguinity, as determined under Subchapter B, Chapter 573, Government Code;

(2) physically living in the same dwelling as the voter;

(3) an early voting clerk or a deputy early voting clerk;

(4) a person who possesses a ballot or carrier envelope solely for the purpose of lawfully assisting a voter who was eligible for assistance under Section 86.010 and complied fully with:

(A) Section 86.010; and

(B) Section 86.0051, if assistance was provided in order to deposit the envelope in the mail or with a common or contract carrier;

(5) an employee of the United States Postal Service working in the normal course of the employee's authorized duties; or

(6) a common or contract carrier working in the normal course of the carrier's authorized duties if the official ballot is sealed in an official carrier envelope that is accompanied by an individual delivery receipt for that particular carrier envelope.

By the way, the Republican Party in California got slapped for going too far with their ballot harvesting by setting up unattended outdoor drop off boxes, many of which were marked as an official dropoff box.
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You clearly seem to have a problem understanding the word "illegal".
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Funny in California, the rules only appear to apply to one party.

When Republicans play the same game as Democrats, they get slapped.
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Ahh, so Thermal Dope is in a protected class. My comment toward he/she/it was deleted. How interesting.
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Trying to rationalize with either thermal or Eric is like trying to piss into a 40 mph wind without getting any on you…either way, it's not an efficient process.
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MR Gadsden said:

Ahh, so Thermal Dope is in a protected class. My comment toward he/she/it was deleted. How interesting.
Probably better to address as "They" given the multiple sock accounts.
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eric76 said:



By the way, the Republican Party in California got slapped for going too far with their ballot harvesting by setting up unattended outdoor drop off boxes, many of which were marked as an official dropoff box.

This type of whataboutism and goaltending is exactly what I would expect for someone who has only voted D one time, back in the 1980's.

Keep going, blue anon.
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Burrus86 said:

Trying to rationalize with either thermal or Eric is like trying to piss into a 40 mph wind without getting any on you…either way, it's not an efficient process.

Eric's thread bombed for him so now he jumped to this one. Best to just ignore.
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Exactly.
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REWEB1601 (as you might gather from the naming convention) connects to the internet because it is the server for http://recorder.maricopa.gov. This is not the election system. We shouldn't have to explain this.


You gottdam should have to explain it! Who the hell do you think you are?


The server was for the county's public facing website, it's supposed to be connected. The Ninjas likely knew it too, they're expert at presenting their "findings" in a misleading manner.

You missed the point entirely. That comment has nothing to do with servers. It is a criticism of the attitude of election officials. You know, servants of the public...except in their own minds. Little tyrants.
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I have become a broken record about the role Runbeck Election Services played in Maricopa County as well as Fulton County, GA.

Gateway Pundit does a deep dive on this subject complete with past posting for background information. One new piece of information of which I was unsure was the role Runbeck plays in signature verification. This becomes critical when weighed against the massive increase in mail-in ballots BUT a massive decrease in ballots being tossed for bad or blank signature boxes. Maricopa County tries to explain this away as they had hired people to specifically contact voter and give them the chance to cure their ballots. (Zuckbucks enabled most likely.) While that might be partially true, it doesn't jive with what Dr. Shiva found after Maricopa very belately finally delivered the envelope images in late August.


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In 2020 there were 5,330 USPS mail carriers employed in Arizona. They deliver mail by "fleet or feet". These are not the clerks, machine operators, or sorters. Maricopa County has 62% of Arizona's population. This means roughly 3,300 USPS mail carriers were in possession of the 2,364,426 ballots sent to voters over the 24 election mail days in Arizona for 2020. Any completed ballots collected during their routes are sent back to the Phoenix P&DC. Maricopa election officials then pick up the completed mail-in ballots at this P&DC. A similar ballot delivery process to the above takes place all across America. But in Maricopa, when ballots are picked up at the Phoenix P&DC by election officials, they are not taken to the county tabulation center.

Runbeck is the first to receive completed mail-in ballots in Maricopa from the USPS. They store them in their Phoenix headquarters while scanning the outside signature area of the envelopes. This area also includes an optional date and phone number section. Runbeck provides these digital images to MCTEC (tabulation) poll workers who compare signatures to those on file. Those that do not match are separated from other ballots and Runbeck delivers both sets to MCTEC.

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Next, the ballots are forwarded to poll workers who open the envelopes, remove ballots, and start the ballot tabulation process. None of the chain of custody documentation for ballots picked up at the P&DC or Runbeck were provided to Senate auditors. In fact, Recorder Adrian Fontes reduced absentee ballot scrutiny specifically for the 2020 election (see image below).

In the image below you can see that the inspection boxes were reduced from 3 to 2 in the lead up to the election. Again, no documentation validating the move of ballots between entities was provided to the auditors of the County's election process.


But let's backtrack a minute and see how chaos was created way before.


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In Arizona, the USPS distributes and receives ballots across the state. In addition, there are massive voter registration drives before every election by organizations trying to stuff the registration systems. In Maricopa, the VRAS (Voter Registration Access System) stops accepting registrations on October 5th. Maricopa's ballot printing vendor is Runbeck Election Services headquartered in Phoenix.

The "QUALVOTER" list is pulled from VRAS and provided to Runbeck. They must begin mailing early ballots on October 7th, by law. However, the liberal organization Mi Familia waited until days before this deadline to file a lawsuit. They partnered with UnidosUS (LaRaza) and the Lincoln Project. The court changed this Oct. 5th deadline to the 23rd. A week later the date was changed to the 15th during an appeal by AG Mark Brnovich. Over 43,000 voter registrations were added during this extra 10 days of registration chaos.

Reviewing voter rolls from Dec-Feb show 860 residential locations had 10 or more registered voters, some with over 20. In fact, there were thousands of addresses with between 5 and 9 registered voters. T
he goal of nefarious actors would be to stuff VRAS with as many names and addresses as possible and ensure they make it on the QUALVOTER list sent to Runbeck. The "Deputy Registrar" initiative by County Recorder Adrian Fontes gave 638 volunteers from left-leaning groups, access to VRAS allowing them to process registration forms.
And finally, even though Runbeck had the actual numbers due to their procedures, theyrefused to tell the counting center how many ballots were outstanding at any point after November 3. Jan Bryant has testified to this as an observer at the counting center for six days after the election.

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Maricopa never provided exact totals of uncounted ballots after November 3rd. On election night almost every County knew exactly how many ballots they had left to count. Maricopa would only provide a range, like the below (400K-430K ballots left). This went on for days after the election, always just ranges.
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Finally, when the Arizona Senate finally started their audit of the 2020 Election results in Maricopa County, mail in ballots were in their audit scope and the images of all ballot envelopes were requested by the auditors. On April 27, 2021 Maricopa's Supervisors stated these digital images of signatures had been delivered to Senate auditors. They resisted for months while making disparaging comments about the auditors. Maricopa finally delivered these images on August 19th, without any apology. We have no idea what was being done to these ballot envelopes and images during these months when the County claimed wrongly that these images had been provided to the Senate auditors.
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but the audit showed Biden actually won and by a bigger total.

Amazing how they can just gloss over these findings.....
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It is telling to me that the strongest defense by the county is placed on the ballot count being correct. They repeat over and over that all of the investigations confirm the count. There is very little argument coming from the county about the validity of the ballots counted.
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Eric76 likes the smell of his own farts more than anyone else I can think of on f16. Thermal Pope's arguments and style sure smell similar. I'm of the mind that Eric doesn't like getting picked on so much when he's flying solo kamikaze missions to ruin threads so he socked himself up a new friend.
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We fixed the keg said:

but the audit showed Biden actually won and by a bigger total.

Amazing how they can just gloss over these findings.....
The signature verification connection was the missing link for me for quite awhile. Once I knew that Runbeck got the completed ballots and not the counting center, I never could connect the dots of when or how the signature verification function worked without the poll workers having the ballots to look at them.

Now we know they were not looking at the ballots themselves, only images. And Runbeck was supposed to separate out those that were not okayed before delivery to the counting center. Did they? We don't know since there are no chain of custody documents. This is true despite Runbeck's claims their procedures are fully auditable.
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but the audit showed Biden actually won and by a bigger total.

Amazing how they can just gloss over these findings.....
because they DGAF about the findings. they love all this destruction they voted for. they hate america and democracy. they're smarter than you. they know what's best for you. and they just know they'll do marxism better than anyone who has ever done it before. trust them. they're here to help save us from evil capitalism, hard work, and opportunity. the fraud and absolute power is necessary to save us from mean tweets.
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aggiehawg said:

We fixed the keg said:

but the audit showed Biden actually won and by a bigger total.

Amazing how they can just gloss over these findings.....
The signature verification connection was the missing link for me for quite awhile. Once I knew that Runbeck got the completed ballots and not the counting center, I never could connect the dots of when or how the signature verification function worked without the poll workers having the ballots to look at them.

Now we know they were not looking at the ballots themselves, only images. And Runbeck was supposed to separate out those that were not okayed before delivery to the counting center. Did they? We don't know since there are no chain of custody documents. This is true despite Runbeck's claims there procedures are fully auditable.


But Appendix A says that there was no cheating.

And Richer says that over 19,000 in the county voted all Republican except they voted Biden for president.

So 19,000 plus people of Arizona who voted Republican decided that the Democrat communist platform was great for their president?

It is difficult to believe that people of the great state of Arizona are that ignorant. I could be wrong about this fact. If I am, then we the people deserve this FJB government we now have, and the economic disaster and loss of liberty that comes with it.
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aggiehawg said:

We fixed the keg said:

but the audit showed Biden actually won and by a bigger total.

Amazing how they can just gloss over these findings.....
The signature verification connection was the missing link for me for quite awhile. Once I knew that Runbeck got the completed ballots and not the counting center, I never could connect the dots of when or how the signature verification function worked without the poll workers having the ballots to look at them.

Now we know they were not looking at the ballots themselves, only images. And Runbeck was supposed to separate out those that were not okayed before delivery to the counting center. Did they? We don't know since there are no chain of custody documents. This is true despite Runbeck's claims their procedures are fully auditable.
What I want to know now is that if Runbeck ran the scans that we saw in the report presentation and that the scanning process was set to eliminate that black fill from the triangles, what other image manipulation might have or could have been done. I would like an explanation for the triangle white-out and what that could possibly mean for the potential security of other risks via image manipulation.
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You missed the point entirely. That comment has nothing to do with servers. It is a criticism of the attitude of election officials. You know, servants of the public...except in their own minds. Little tyrants.
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The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has repeatedly stated that the network connecting the election /voting systems is an isolated network that has no ability to connect to the internet. An in-depth analysis of both the allocated and unallocated space of the EMS, EMS workstations, Adjudication Workstations and other elements of the election system has definitively proven that this is not the case. There were hundreds of connections to public internet sites recovered from the unallocated areas of the hard drives. For the purpose of this report, only internet connection artifacts that contained valid dates after the installation of the Dominion Software suite on 8/6/2019 were included in this report. Additionally, for the purposes of this report only sites that have been visited multiple times were reported to avoid false reporting of default internet histories. Given that the Dominion Software suite was installed on 8/6/2019, no internet history URL visit dates should exist after that date.

The county did not provide a network diagram, a function diagram or any other documentation to determine if in fact a given system was supposed to be connected to the internet. Public statements by the county made clear that no election related system was connected to the internet. For the purposes of the internet examination, auditors used this statement as the starting point to prove or disprove that there was internet connectivity accessible to the systems provided by the county as a result of the subpoena. In the course of the examination definitive evidence was recovered that the EMS, EMS Client 1, EMS Client 3, EMS Client 4, REWEB 1601, and the REGIS 1202 systems had access to the internet after the installation of the Dominion voting software suite was installed on 8/6/2019. Given the nature of unallocated space analysis this is by no means a complete recovery of all internet history, but is definitive for the recovered internet artifacts on the dates and times indicated.


I would be willing to bet this machine was handed over knowing (1) it would have Internet traffic on it, and (2) they would use it as a gotcha to cover any other findings.

OK, fine, it is a web server for a legitimate cause and connected to the Internet. Did it really have Dominion Software installed on it? Why? Was it really part of the same network as the other devices? Why? Was it really not patched or updated like the other devices? Why? These are the questions which should follow.

Even if we assume nothing is amiss with that server, fine. Why no comment on the other 4? What the hell were they doing accessing the Internet (that isn't supposed to be there)?
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What I want to know now is that if Runbeck ran the scans that we saw in the report presentation and that the scanning process was set to eliminate that black fill from the triangles, what other image manipulation might have or could have been done. I would like an explanation for the triangle white-out and what that could possibly mean for the potential security of other risks via image manipulation.
Exactly. If the scans that were belatedly handed over to the auditors were the original Runbeck scans and not a newer scan performed by the County after the subpoenas, then Runbeck needs to answer that question.

AZ AG Brnowich should be asking those questions at this point.

Remember, Runbeck also handled the mail-in ballots for all of Fulton County, too. The entire Geogia voter rolls were stolen in August-September of 2019. Did Runbeck also perform signature verification services in Fulton County? IDK the answer to that as I have not seen the contract. I only know Runbeck and Dominion were directly involved due to a press release by the County.
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BuddysBud said:

aggiehawg said:

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but the audit showed Biden actually won and by a bigger total.

Amazing how they can just gloss over these findings.....
The signature verification connection was the missing link for me for quite awhile. Once I knew that Runbeck got the completed ballots and not the counting center, I never could connect the dots of when or how the signature verification function worked without the poll workers having the ballots to look at them.

Now we know they were not looking at the ballots themselves, only images. And Runbeck was supposed to separate out those that were not okayed before delivery to the counting center. Did they? We don't know since there are no chain of custody documents. This is true despite Runbeck's claims there procedures are fully auditable.


But Appendix A says that there was no cheating.

And Richer says that over 19,000 in the county voted all Republican except they voted Biden for president.

So 19,000 plus people of Arizona who voted Republican decided that the Democrat communist platform was great for their president?

It is difficult to believe that people of the great state of Arizona are that ignorant. I could be wrong about this fact. If I am, then we the people deserve this FJB government we now have, and the economic disaster and loss of liberty that comes with it.
well, the biggest election interference issues weren't Russian and they may not have even been insecure weak systems and processes (and election law and process changes taken advantage of using covid fear mongering) that make committing and covering up fraud easy. Although it is VITALLY important to get this fixed or the country is F'd - half of America is disenfranchised and the ruling Marxists DGAF. They have their power and they will continue the destruction.

A CNN exec admitted that they helped to hide Biden's cognitive decline/ dementia to save us from mean tweets. The Silicon Valley platform monopolies censored PROOF of Biden's corruption before the election and MSM went along with the completely fabricated narrative that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, even getting signatures from the "intel community" agreeing that it could be Russian disinformation. The DNC and Biden's Marxist handlers with plans for total destruction tried to paint Biden as a "moderate" to trick people, even though the dem base really wanted an open socialist in Bernie. TDS, driven by fake news narratives and social media manipulation, really drove people over the top crazy to the point where too many idiots actually voted to kill the country in order to save it from mean tweets. Cities outsourced managing the election to NGOs funded by billionaire elitist leftists who think they are heroes for helping to take advantage of the pandemic and election laws to get mean tweets out. It was a coup d'etat and there are numskulls like thermal pope who love what's happening to our country. #sad
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They must begin mailing early ballots on October 7th, by law. However, the liberal organization Mi Familia waited until days before this deadline to file a lawsuit. They partnered with UnidosUS (LaRaza) and the Lincoln Project. The court changed this Oct. 5th deadline to the 23rd.
Again, and again, and again....stories of every damn state where laws were just flat out ignored. Ignoring ID laws, ignoring deadlines, ignoring signature rules, etc etc etc. Spare me the **** about voter suppression, none of this is about suppressing people who actually give a **** about voting, it is about opening the flood gates to fraud.

200+ years ago, people found a way to vote ON election day, and in some cases traveled long distance just to do so. It is time we stop looking for ways to make it easy to vote and just start telling people, "This is important, if you want to participate, here are the rules. If you are too lazy, your vote (and opinion) don't ****ing matter,"
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Cities outsourced managing the election to NGOs funded by billionaire elitist leftists who think they are heroes for helping to take advantage of the pandemic and election laws to get mean tweets out. It was a coup d'etat ....
Further, we don't even know who has an ownership interest in the electronic voting system companies. In particular, Dominion. Despite voting systems being deemed critical infrastructure, they operate without any meaningful oversight. EAC is trash and staffed by former long time employees of those electronic voting companies.

The "certification" companies, Pro V&V and SLI are tiny companies having a very niche market whose entire existence is dependent on the electronic voting company's good graces and willingness to employ them. SLI is located in Denver, just a couple of miles away from Dominion's small office suite, for instance.

Yet states and localities shove hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars at them to outsource the elections with no oversight.

Infuriating!
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Cities outsourced managing the election to NGOs funded by billionaire elitist leftists who think they are heroes for helping to take advantage of the pandemic and election laws to get mean tweets out. It was a coup d'etat ....
Further, we don't even know who has an ownership interest in the electronic voting system companies. In particular, Dominion. Despite voting systems being deemed critical infrastructure, they operate without any meaningful oversight. EAC is trash and staffed by former long time employees of those electronic voting companies.

The "certification" companies, Pro V&V and SLI are tiny companies having a very niche market whose entire existence is dependent on the electronic voting company's good graces and willingness to employ them. SLI is located in Denver, just a couple of miles away from Dominion's small office suite, for instance.

Yet states and localities shove hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars at them to outsource the elections with no oversight.

Infuriating!
yeah, and commies like thermal pope will argue that every cyber security firm that is capable of doing a vulnerability assessment and forensic audit is not qualified because they aren't one of the only outfits like Pro V&V and SLI that are "certified" by the US election assistance commission, which are all run by former Dominion people. Yeah, so the EAC and dominion get to decide who can audit elections run by dominion and only they have the expertise to audit an election. Just like their president - it's almost like conflicts of interest are a requirement in everything they do.
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Consider my mind blown now. How is this possible?



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Maricopa County has a GIS election system that the up-to-date status of votes at any time. Could this have been used to record and manipulate vote results?

Maricopa's real-time visibility into ballots is just mind-boggling. It doesn't just recognize when completed ballots are received. It can map every voter location for ballots that have passed the signature verification process. This is a true reflection of what will be tabulated. It can show areas of low or high turnout, by party, Spanish-only ballots, or just about any other criteria. Their public interactive map currently shows 2020 returns by precinct, political party, and demographics including race and age. The (UOCAVA) map of overseas voters shows the entire world including China (145 votes), Pakistan (3), India (108), etc.
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The below "heat map" is another real example from the GIS department. Zoom to 150%, dots are ballots cast. It shows Dems who voted "in-person" during the primaries. Maricopa used this to determine the best locations to add new "voting centers" for the 2020 election. No other parties were layered in the map, just Dems.
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Maricopa has conducted accurate geocoding of every registered voter in the county. We are all just an x, y coordinate now. Maricopa will process any map request at a rate of $40/hr. If the map already exists, then it's free. At one time they had over 1,100 PDF election maps in their online library. But the public is now directed to the interactive map with (EV) Early Voting returns, or the one without. The "Elections Department Only" and powerful Desktop versions used by internal staff can access individual voter information, and much more.
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That had to be outsourced too, no?
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Electronic data collection is a massive double edged sword, useful for both good purposes and nefarious schemes. I firmly believe that the right to privacy, particularly in regards to personal electronic data collection, should be a constitutional amendment. I believe the founders would agree and would have included such a provision had they had any concept of the possibility that the technology could exist that can harvest personal data to such an incredible degree and detail. Given the choice between the benefits and risks of electronic data collection I believe it is always most prudent to fall on the side that protects individual liberty.
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Maricopa used this to determine the best locations to add new "voting centers" for the 2020 election. No other parties were layered in the map, just Dems.
Shocked! Shocked! I tell you.
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Maricopa used this to determine the best locations to add new "voting centers" for the 2020 election. No other parties were layered in the map, just Dems.
Shocked! Shocked! I tell you.

So, do you think they get that information from the postal sorting center? Or Runbeck?
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Maricopa used this to determine the best locations to add new "voting centers" for the 2020 election. No other parties were layered in the map, just Dems.
Shocked! Shocked! I tell you.


Eric is perfectly ok with this vote harvesting.
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