*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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wouldn't a wash and reimage require recertification?
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Went from two partitions to four after Dominion was there with physical access.

ETA: Just found MS Sequel on the before image for elections going back several years. Gone on the after.
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October 2020, "Removed Hardening Restrictions" written as a bat file.

SQL server dehardened present on both before and after.
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Summary of what they have presented is beginning.
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Soo, everything got derailed yesterday with these new forensic images pre and after Dominion was ordered to have access to Mesa County election server(s). Tina Peters, the election clerk, was concerned that Dominion would alter data, so she had the forensic images made. Then the images were uploaded and linked.

Lindell's people followed the links and got the images from open sources. They have been going through this raw data for the last 24 hours or so. New information and a lot to process and the dive is just beginning for the IT people, what Lindell calls his "Red Team."

There's still a lot to unpack but way too much smoke now. Been an interesting day watching these guys as they are seeing the forensic images for the first time.

The people (experts) who have seen the Antrim MI images are saying the Mesa County images are very very similar. Dominion is erasing data in many, many states across the country.
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aggiehawg said:

October 2020, "Removed Hardening Restrictions" written as a bat file.

SQL server dehardened present on both before and after.
Shocked, shocked I tell ya.

So, we have gone from speculating to knowing. For the record, software update is not the same as re-imaging the devices. but we are beyond a semantics conversation at this point. Regardless, nothing like destroying evidence in broad daylight with election officials and dominion present.
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What's the likelihood this all went back to Diebold and we've been having pretend elections since '04?
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BadMoonRisin said:

What's the likelihood this all went back to Diebold and we've been having pretend elections since '04?
It's fairly safe to assume that the 2016 election didn't go as planned.
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BadMoonRisin said:

What's the likelihood this all went back to Diebold and we've been having pretend elections since '04?
Dr. Frank said something about that earlier. From his perspective, 1990 might have been the "last" clean election. He singled out 2004 and 2006 as being particularly problematical due to electronic voting systems having no paper audit trail and the logs were all wiped. (From my own research I have long thought Bush didn't win in 2004.)

Interestingly, one of the things they found today included programming from 1997. What the hell is ancient code such as that doing on a 2020 election electronic voting machine??
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will25u said:


the Dems sure know how to continue disenfranchising voters and encouraging more division, skepticism, and conspiracy theories. ...all things that transparency / forensic audits, and implementing anti-fraud controls before the next election would squash.
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will25u said:


Not sure how election laws in WI work, but I am pretty sure that the Constitution and subsequent case law views the legislatures of the states as the final authority on presidential elections in the state, so I would expect that the courts would rule in favor of the House if this gets to a courtroom. How much of these stall and delay tactics are just to give time for Dominion to get to these machines for "updates" that will wipe out any forensic value to any subsequent audits?
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txags92 said:

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Not sure how election laws in WI work, but I am pretty sure that the Constitution and subsequent case law views the legislatures of the states as the final authority on presidential elections in the state, so I would expect that the courts would rule in favor of the House if this gets to a courtroom. How much of these stall and delay tactics we are just to give time for Dominion to get to these machines for "updates" that will wipe out any forensic value to any subsequent audits?
All.

But for lawsuit reasons, deviations in behavior, (they never did "updates" before) is evidence of spoiliation.
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For posterity's sake. A collection of the links to each presentation from Lindell's Cyber conference.

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Here are Dr. Shiva's calculations for stolen votes across the states (pulled from another site with a 90+ page thread on the Cyber Symposium):



Those cheeky pickpockets purloined at the rate of 420.
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aggiehawg said:

Went from two partitions to four after Dominion was there with physical access.

ETA: Just found MS Sequel on the before image for elections going back several years. Gone on the after.
That is totally unacceptable. These people need to be held accountable and all dominion equipment banned from all elections in the United States
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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will25u said:


Disagree slightly with Emerald Robinson, need to know who did the tampering and who ordered the tampering. These people need to be held accountable and if guilty serve substantial jail time.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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richardag said:

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Disagree slightly with Emerald Robinson, need to know who did the tampering and who ordered the tampering. These people need to be held accountable and if guilty serve substantial jail time.
My understanding is that only 7 people were present when the Dominion employee(s) did the update in May in Mesa County. There were security cameras (again my understanding from Tina Peters) but after her office was raided, who knows?
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aggiehawg said:

richardag said:

will25u said:


Disagree slightly with Emerald Robinson, need to know who did the tampering and who ordered the tampering. These people need to be held accountable and if guilty serve substantial jail time.
My understanding is that only 7 people were present when the Dominion employee(s) did the update in May in Mesa County. There were security cameras (again my understanding from Tina Peters) but after her office was raided, who knows?
I also would like to know who used a blank password 37,000 times to intentionally overwrite logs.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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aggiehawg said:

richardag said:

will25u said:


Disagree slightly with Emerald Robinson, need to know who did the tampering and who ordered the tampering. These people need to be held accountable and if guilty serve substantial jail time.
My understanding is that only 7 people were present when the Dominion employee(s) did the update in May in Mesa County. There were security cameras (again my understanding from Tina Peters) but after her office was raided, who knows?
Any wagers on whether any logs or evidence such as camera footage that would show who was there to do the "upgrade" was taken in the raid and won't make it back when everything it returned to the office?
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txags92 said:

aggiehawg said:

richardag said:

will25u said:


Disagree slightly with Emerald Robinson, need to know who did the tampering and who ordered the tampering. These people need to be held accountable and if guilty serve substantial jail time.
My understanding is that only 7 people were present when the Dominion employee(s) did the update in May in Mesa County. There were security cameras (again my understanding from Tina Peters) but after her office was raided, who knows?
Any wagers on whether any logs or evidence such as camera footage that would show who was there to do the "upgrade" was taken in the raid and won't make it back when everything it returned to the office?
My understanding of the timeline is that the SOS was unaware that a forensic image was made before and after the Dominion visit until it was put up on the internet and when they leaned Peters was on her way to Sioux Falls, they ordered the raid in conjunction with the local DA's office. Haven't seen the search warrant but I assume security camera footage would have been included. I don't know how often those cameras are backed up or how long footage is retained either. The update took place in late May.
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David Clements is one helluva of a trial attorney. His presentation of the parable is must see at Lindell's symposium.
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Wasn't sure if posted already, but here is a summary of what is going on. Worth your time to watch

[irl]https://rumble.com/vkym8a-mike-lyndells-cyber-symposium-feature-video-..-how-it-was-rigged.html
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A brave whistleblower stepped forward and shared an image of a computer that was used at the TCF Center to process absentee ballots from a recent Detroit election.

According to our whistleblower, who had access to the room where absentee ballots were being counted, Wayne County election workers were instructed to keep laptops used in the counting facility on "airplane mode" at all times.
Why are laptops even allowed anywhere near a counting center?

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The photo was taken when the whistleblower turned off the "airplane mode," and the following internet connections appeared:


Why are cellphones allowed near a counting center?

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We shared the image of the computer screen with the former two-term MI Senator Patrick Colbeck. He explained to us that the image could be "an internal network, but definitely vulnerable to devices in proximity."

The whistleblower who does not wish to be identified over fears of retribution also shared their concern over events that occurred at the TCF Center during the November 2020 election.
WTH?

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Conti-HTE <- Electrical Provider in TCF

Why not? Everyone gets a network in proximity of election equipment.
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Conti-HTE <- Electrical Provider in TCF

Why not? Everyone gets a network in proximity of election equipment.
So what do you think about airplane mode and this?
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aggiehawg said:

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Conti-HTE <- Electrical Provider in TCF

Why not? Everyone gets a network in proximity of election equipment.
So what do you think about airplane mode and this?
What jumped out at me is that it automatically connected to the "City of Detroit" Secured network. Meaning it had been connected to it previously (because someone entered the necessary wireless credentials, which were saved.)

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Tailgate88 said:

aggiehawg said:

We fixed the keg said:

Conti-HTE <- Electrical Provider in TCF

Why not? Everyone gets a network in proximity of election equipment.
So what do you think about airplane mode and this?
What jumped out at me is that it automatically connected to the "City of Detroit" Secured network. Meaning it had been connected to it previously (because someone entered the necessary wireless credentials, which were saved.)


Help me out here. So if the City of Detroit is capable of being connected, then an electronic voting machine company, who has offices within their offices, would theoretically, have access as wll?
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aggiehawg said:

Tailgate88 said:

aggiehawg said:

We fixed the keg said:

Conti-HTE <- Electrical Provider in TCF

Why not? Everyone gets a network in proximity of election equipment.
So what do you think about airplane mode and this?
What jumped out at me is that it automatically connected to the "City of Detroit" Secured network. Meaning it had been connected to it previously (because someone entered the necessary wireless credentials, which were saved.)


Help me out here. So if the City of Detroit is capable of being connected, then an electronic voting machine company, who has offices within their offices, would theoretically, have access as wll?
It simply means that the whistleblower has previously connected and has accepted credentials to attach to the wireless. For a voting machine, someone would have to provide acceptable credentials.

But yes, if the network is visible to the laptop and accessible, then it is visible/accessible to the voting machines (assuming they have compatible WIFI).
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And exposed to hacking or manipulation?
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aggiehawg said:

We fixed the keg said:

Conti-HTE <- Electrical Provider in TCF

Why not? Everyone gets a network in proximity of election equipment.
So what do you think about airplane mode and this?
So many things.....

1) The WIFI scanner built in to Windows is fairly generic. It is going to show you a list of networks, in range, broadcasting an SSID. There could, and are likely, a number of networks not broadcasting their SSID, so without a more robust scanner, or knowledge of them, you wouldn't be able to see/connect to them.

2) Why the election board would allow any wireless networks to be functioning during the election, especially those from private businesses, is poor judgement and a poor security plan.

3) What is the point of having laptops/desktops in the facility in the first place? If there is not an election related reason, they should not be there. Same with personal cell phones, recording devices, etc. Again, poor judgement and even poorer security.

If they were serious, they would be monitoring for rogue access points and unauthorized devices. There are a number of companies and technologies to do this. Hell, this has been a part of PCI DSS Compliance for over a decade. If you want to go full-nerd, here is an outline.
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aggiehawg said:

David Clements is one helluva of a trial attorney. His presentation of the parable is must see at Lindell's symposium.
I can't begin to tell you how comforting that is.

I know this isn't true, but for the last five years, ALL of the good trial attorneys have been Dems. It actually gives me a tad bit of hope.

Now, go forth and prosper.
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