*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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Well crap, the excitement of 40+ unread replies was quickly dashed. It is late, and I know this is just feeding the socks/trolls, but I will play along.

Frankly, it doesn't matter what is driving people to attack this process. I don't care if it is TDS, 'my guy won', orange man bad, mean tweets, or even if you truly believe this is fraudulent audit. Having done research on the previous audit and trying to find anything outside of the MSM talking points, it does not surprise me to see so many people convinced this is all a fraud. If you had to guess about the care/sincerity behind the poster who wrote:
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I'll excuse myself having soiled the vibe of the thread, which is my want from time to time.

Carry on.
I don't think it needs much analysis to come to an accurate conclusion.

With that said. How hard is it to allow this process to finish, findings to be published, and then pick those apart. Actually put them under the microscope and challenge them. If they find nothing, then there is your answer. If they find something, make it survive or die based on merit and fact.

If you were following the "router" thread, you would have already had an opportunity to see the research done on the previous audit. The one performed by Pro V&V and SLI Compliance which has been reported by the MSM and election officials say proved everything was above board and no issues found.

It less than an hour of reading it is clear you are reading a report generated around a predetermined narrative.
  • The Pro V&V report is painfully embarrassing. Calling it sophomoric is too kind. It is barely over 9 pages with at least 3 of those pages being filled with tables showing Software and Serial numbers
    https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/66844/Post-Audit-Report
  • Of the 700+ polling places, the audit only looked at (5), count them (5) machines and nowhere does it explain where they came from, how many votes they counted, who/how those were selected. Even better 1 of the 5 didn't have a seal and they didn't even specifically identify WHY. Only a few sentences about how that COULD happen.
  • And in the end, their conclusion. TWO SENTENCES. Two.
  • The SLI Compliance document was at least closer to what you should expect as an output of a professional audit
    https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/66843/SLI-Compliance-Forensic-Audit-Report?bidId=
  • As you read the SLI report, two things become very clear. (1) It is a document written by lawyers in carefully crafted legalese, and (2) just as important as what is in the report is what isn't in the report
  • Examples of language "not connected to Internet between X and Y dates" Why the significance of those dates? Even better, why "Internet" by Dominion's own best practices devices aren't supposed to connect to any other private or public networks. So why did you only look at the Internet? What is the "checklist" you used?
  • Example of missing info: The word "routers" doesn't appear anywhere in this document and only twice is the word "routed" in it, used in the context of "Internet routed network". Dominion provided (2) options for install. Express and Standard. Both were complete, out of the box solutions containing everything you needed to setup a polling station. No routers provided, and more importantly no routers were needed. Even better, Dominion warned against them specifically saying traffic in transit was not encrypted and the security/integrity could not be guaranteed if not airgapped. So why were they there and who put them there?

Many more gaps, questions, items which should be challenged, but yet were not. To make it worse, none of this process was recorded nor done with impartial/external observers present. You are just expected to take their word for the process and their findings.

If all of this isn't enough to prove it was a massive CYA, we then find out the same two companies Pro V&V and SLI Compliance were the two companies who were hired to certify the configuration and setup prior to the election. That is right, two private companies hired to sign off on all of this called back after all of the anomalies to audit themselves. No reason a private company would have any motivation to deliver a report exonerating them of incompetence or fraud, or negligence, etc. etc. No reason at all to doubt that they would report on things which would put them at risk of fines and damage to their reputation.

All of this noise before the formal findings have been released is simply disingenuous and propaganda. Let the report come out, challenge the findings, and let the facts and data survive or fail on their on merits.
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Former Arizona Secretary of State and current senate liaison for the Maricopa County audit, Ken Bennett, has said that they need to investigate anomalies such as 52 ballots that came from a single two-bedroom home.

Bennett was giving an update on the next steps in the audit during an interview with John Fredricks on the Outside The Beltway podcast.

Additionally, Bennett stated that the Maricopa Board of Supervisors is refusing to provide information related to the routers used and administrative passwords for the tabulation machines.

Bennett explained that they are going through the envelopes to make sure that each one has a valid signature and that the person is a resident of Maricopa County. Ballots with unsigned envelopes are not permitted to be counted under the election laws.

"So, if the signatures don't match or the signatures aren't there, what happens?" Fredricks asked.

"Well, then part of our report would say that Maricopa County opened X numbers of thousands of envelopes and counted the ballots inside those envelopes that never should have been opened," Bennett explained.

During the final minute of the interview, Bennett was asked to wrap up what people can expect to see from the audit in the next couple of weeks.

"There is still checking of voter registration anomalies," he explained before citing "fifty two people voting from a two-bedroom home somewhere, or people voting twice, or dead people voting."

"There's going to be a few to several weeks of that type of investigation, and then there will probably be a few to several weeks of putting the whole report together," he added. "The report's going to be massive."



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/watch-maricopa-audit-liaison-says-need-investigate-anomalies-like-52-ballots-submitted-two-bedroom-home/
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Jack Lime said:

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Jack Lime said:


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IT'S ONCE AGAIN TIME FOR EVERYONE'S FAVORITE GAME:

NAME THE LIBERAL'S LOGICAL FALLACY!!!

The liberal claims "The Arizona Audit is invalid because it's not run by a big name company". Which logical fallacy is he using?

Is it:
A) Equivocation
B) Tu quoque
C) Appeal to Authority
D) Circular Reasoning


If you guessed C) "Appeal to authority", you are correct! Just because an auditor is not well known does not make their work invalid.

Congrats on taking a freshman level debate class. But Faustus is right and you're wrong. "Cyber Ninjas" have not proffered an argument, nor have we even seen their results, so there's not fallacy here. Had they made a claim and Faustus dismissed it by using an ad hominem, that would be a fallacy.

But ad hominem is not always a fallacy. The competence, motivations, integrity, and experience of the firm doing the audit matter when the process is opaque and we are to rely on the authority of those running it and accuracy of their claims. "Cyber Ninjas" have no election experience and they've never run an election audit.

Further, Doug Logan is a full Qanon lunatic. He's a highly motivated partisan. Nobody will buy what they're selling that wasn't already convinced before hand.


No, you are full of ***** You are trying to get out in front of this and discredit the results because you know the results will show massive fraud.

You are supporting a party of frauds and cheaters. It's sad, but not new or unexpected.
NOW THAT"S an ad hominem. Good job.

If Rachel Maddow and Kathy Griffin "audited" the 2016 Wisconsin election and said Hillary really won, would you buy it? Would you trust a 911 truther to audit the Bush family? That's what this is in reverse.


Do you realize the word "audit" is not standardized to mean something specific? Not all audits are the same as some are broad and vague, and some are more detailed and precise. The audits done early and the audits being done now are not even comparable.
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Testing...testing. Let's see if this works.

ETA: I'm off ban now. Don't know why it happened overnight nor why.
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aggiehawg said:

Testing...testing. Let's see if this works.

ETA: I'm off ban now. Don't know why it happened overnight nor why.
Welcome to TexAgs
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aggiehawg said:

Testing...testing. Let's see if this works.

ETA: I'm off ban now. Don't know why it happened overnight nor why.



Can't believe you caught a ban, ever. You've always been factual and WAY less emotional than me. You probably offended the sensibilities of a mod from the opposite side of the aisle. It's just easier to silence you than engage and get their skull caved in. Anyway, glad to have you back from banned camp, and clean your flute.
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If Rachel Maddow and Kathy Griffin "audited" the 2016 Wisconsin election and said Hillary really won, would you buy it? Would you trust a 911 truther to audit the Bush family? That's what this is in reverse.

If several Democrat controlled counties suddenly stopped counting votes in the middle of the night, kicked all the republicans out and resumed counting, then what looked like easy trump wins suddenly turned into Biden coming back in statistically nearly impossible fashion...would you believe it?
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I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
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Me too.

That's the beauty of being conservative, we just want the truth, which always benefits everyone. The Left just want to "F" up your liberty and acquire as much power as possible because they could never attain that power without propaganda.
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fasthorse05 said:

Me too.

That's the beauty of being conservative, we just want the truth, which always benefits everyone. The Left just want to "F" up your liberty and acquire as much power as possible because they could never attain that power without propaganda.

Careful. You can get banned for asking or saying the truth.
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Careful. You can get banned for asking or saying the truth.
There are just too many posters and too many threads for a handful of moderators to get everything 100%. I am confident if the post(s) which got you the hammer were read in full context, it wouldn't have been the case. Unfortunately there isn't a sure-fire catch-all that works perfectly here. Even if they implemented a upvote/downvote system, it would simply lump in trolls and people with unpopular views. This is why I do not "ignore" posters.....although there are so many who have pushed me to that limit. Full disclosure:

To be honest, I want to read and decide for myself. How else would one get to see GeorgiAg answer for their sins.

So if a few of my posts get deleted or I catch a temporary ban, so be it. If/when I catch a ban, my posting history can show I am not a troll/bad actor. If a catch a perma-ban for my views/opinions, well, this place probably isn't for me anymore.

Regardless, there are posters here I really enjoy bringing good information (such as yourself) and other posters I fully disagree with who are not trolls, but shouldn't be silenced. All sides need to be heard so facts can trump propaganda.
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rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.


This is all going over your head.
X was born on October 28, 2022 and should be a national holiday.
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rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
Me too, but maybe not for the same reasons. I think there was fraud in Dallas, Denton, Harris, and Travis counties. Not enough to flip the state, but fraud all the same.
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We fixed the keg said:

rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
Me too, but maybe not for the same reasons. I think there was fraud in Dallas, Denton, Harris, and Travis counties. Not enough to flip the state, but fraud all the same.
Don't forget Tarrant. Fort Worth is filled with Soros stooges.
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Pookers said:

We fixed the keg said:

rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
Me too, but maybe not for the same reasons. I think there was fraud in Dallas, Denton, Harris, and Travis counties. Not enough to flip the state, but fraud all the same.
Don't forget Tarrant. Fort Worth is filled with Soros stooges.
Good point. It is important to know if we are really turning blue at the rate being reported, or is this fraud/propaganda.
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Thread about Fulton.

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We fixed the keg said:

Pookers said:

We fixed the keg said:

rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
Me too, but maybe not for the same reasons. I think there was fraud in Dallas, Denton, Harris, and Travis counties. Not enough to flip the state, but fraud all the same.
Don't forget Tarrant. Fort Worth is filled with Soros stooges.
Good point. It is important to know if we are really turning blue at the rate being reported, or is this fraud/propaganda.
I'm still in possible ban hammer but you have proven to be an open minded investigator.

Read this.
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Granted, it is a small sampling, but it is not a major surprise to see people of color shifting their votes. Both African American and Hispanic Americans achieved record employment during the Trump presidency. Were it not for the 24 hour anti-Trump propaganda machine, those numbers would likely have shown a more drastic shift.
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We fixed the keg said:

rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
Me too, but maybe not for the same reasons. I think there was fraud in Dallas, Denton, Harris, and Travis counties. Not enough to flip the state, but fraud all the same.


I don't know if this has been posted and I know nothing about the source. A friend forwarded this article to me. It might help explain how SJL keeps getting re-elected.
In summary the article claims evidence that she hired felons to harvest/steal votes illegally, and they mistakenly voted for several dead people, thereby exposing their scheme.

http://www.texastrashtalk.com/2021/06/breaking-news-harris-county-voter.html?fbclid=IwAR0uea6Hl9P48PHQvauaT1IQJpx17KcqK20465t83jOGpd6ZMnq3GFUdYXc&m=1
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Never heard of that site, but it looks like they have been publishing an article every few months for almost 10 years. It bares a strong resemblance to real investigative journalism. Is it legit?
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rynning said:

Never heard of that site, but it looks like they have been publishing an article every few months for almost 10 years. It bares a strong resemblance to real investigative journalism. Is it legit?


As I said in my post, I know nothing about the site, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were illegal vote harvesting in Harris County.

Edit to add that this kind of illegal vote theft also fits the MO that Project Veritas exposed in Minneapolis and San Antonio. SJL and many others in Harris County are just as crooked if not more so than Omar. They also have much more experience.
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An analysis from another watchdog organization concluded that Joe Biden would have carried Texas over Donald Trump in November if the vote had been limited to counties that got private funds to administer their elections.

"ZuckBucks affected roughly 74% of Texas residents by total population with grants given to 115 counties. If Texas' election was limited only to those counties receiving the private funds, Joe Biden would have bested Donald Trump by roughly 270,000 votes," said the March report from the Public Interest Legal Foundation.

Of course, votes in other counties were counted and Trump carried the state's 38 electoral votes, beating Biden 52.1% to 46.5%, though Biden went on to collect enough electoral votes in other states to win the election.

Still, the biggest share of the money from Zuckerberg and his wife went to populous, Democrat-leaning counties such as Dallas County, which got $15.1 million, and Harris County (the Houston area), which got $9.6 million.
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After these two comes a significant drop-off, with the counties of Webb, Bexar, Cameron, Tarrant, and Travis the only ones to get more than $1 million for election administration, according to the Public Interest Legal Foundation report.
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Some Texas counties flipped from red in 2016 to blue in 2020, according to the report. Tarrant County went to Trump in 2016 but flipped to Biden in 2020, with a 43% increase in Democratic votes compared with Trump's jump of 18%.

Biden also flipped Hays County (the Austin metropolitan area) and Williamson County, with raw vote increases between 70% and 80%.
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Most of the money was used in Texas for activities such as drive-through voting, sorting assets for mail voting, polling place rental expenses, temporary labor expenses and hazard pay, voter education and radio costs, and personal protective equipment, the legal foundation's report says.

"In November 2020, Texas performed two kinds of elections," the report says. "While the majority of counties (just 26% of state population) stuck to established/publicly budgeted procedures, the rest took Silicon Valley money in return for preferred administrative practices."

J. Christian Adams, president of the Public Interest Legal Foundation and a former Justice Department lawyer, said he's hopeful that more states will follow what Texas and other states have done by banning the use of private money to run elections.

"My goodness, you can't let private people tell government officials what to do," Adams told The Daily Signal in a phone interview. "You have a built-in bias in the system. When you allow private money to go into a county, the county is going to do what the private donors instruct."
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Too close for comfort, in my view. Where you find Zuckbucks, you find fraud. That's a feature, not a bug.
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BuddysBud said:

We fixed the keg said:

rynning said:

I'd be happy if the states that Trump won in 2020 also conducted an audit.
Me too, but maybe not for the same reasons. I think there was fraud in Dallas, Denton, Harris, and Travis counties. Not enough to flip the state, but fraud all the same.


I don't know if this has been posted and I know nothing about the source. A friend forwarded this article to me. It might help explain how SJL keeps getting re-elected.
In summary the article claims evidence that she hired felons to harvest/steal votes illegally, and they mistakenly voted for several dead people, thereby exposing their scheme.

http://www.texastrashtalk.com/2021/06/breaking-news-harris-county-voter.html?fbclid=IwAR0uea6Hl9P48PHQvauaT1IQJpx17KcqK20465t83jOGpd6ZMnq3GFUdYXc&m=1
Not familiar with the site either, but I don't think what is in that article is that 'far-fetched' nor something unique to just SJL. Just look at the recent news coming out of Michigan and Georgia with tens of thousands of voters needing to be purged from the lists. A public library keeps better records.
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1) Make election day a federal holiday
2) Require government issue ID to vote
3) Mandate all votes done in person with limited access to absentee ballots for hardship only
4) Require justification for hardship (out of town/country, serving in military overseas, or physical hardship for disabled/elderly/ill)
5) Simplify, secure, and fix the voting process/systems.

I know most don't share my opinion (fewer each passing election), but voting in person, on election day, is a privilege afforded to us by many who have sacrificed.
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We fixed the keg said:

voting in person, on election day, is a privilege afforded to us by many who have sacrificed.


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will25u said:




Let's come back to Rick Barron, Fulton County Election Director. He's ground zero for the worst of the worst of the things going on in that county.

It was Barron who followed Dominion's directions to use Runbeck Election Services for the mail in ballots in Fulton County. Runbeck printed the ballots according to directions from Dominion.*

Barron was also smack dab in the middle of the loop of what happened election night in State Farm Arena.

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Richard Barron, the elections director in Fulton County, which includes Atlanta, also addressed the issue with the county's elections officials. In a video published online by 11Alive, the NBC affiliate TV station in Atlanta, he described sending instructions for the scanners to keep going.

"No announcement was ever made to leave, for anyone to leave," Barron said. "Certain staff that were on the cutting stations, that were on the flattening stations, that were extracting from the inner envelopes, those staff left as work completed. I found out sometime, I think a little after 10:30, that they were going to cease operations, and I told them not to do that."
Cutting stations and flattening stations are for mail in ballots. How was their work "completed.?



During the so-called "recount" it was Barron who announced that 106,000 ballots out of 113,000 were adjudicated. That's an absurdly high rejection rate and leads directly back to Runbeck's printing of the ballots out of alignment at Dominion's sole direction.

Plus it is still unclear what, if any, ballot drop box services were contracted out to Runbeck. They offer those which include monitoring and chain of custody documentation. The same documentation that is missing.

You may also recall that the Board of Supervisors tried to fire Barron, even announced his departure yet he is still in his position and now Fulton County attorneys are running interference for him. He's been subpoenaed to appear at the hearing tomorrow on the motions to dismiss Favorito's complaint.

Watch Ruby Freeman walk around with her camera phone with ballots all over the place, unattended, no observers, etc. This was in way "secure."



*Immediately after the election, Jovan Pulitzer was able to get sample ballots from various precincts in and around Fulton County. He showed how the alignment issues caused higher rejection rates in GOP leaning areas than Dem leaning areas.
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One question. Will Justice ever EVER be served?
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Read the unabridged notes of an election observer hired before the election by the Sec of State's office. Rick Barron's activities are recorded there. They knew they had massive problems in Fulton County, even before election days. The equipment was supposed to be delivered in a timely manner for the polling places to be set up for the next morning's voting.

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That reads like an election cluster****.

I assume SHS is the company responsible for delivering the goods---so to speak. Otherwise, it seems like the election was a big surprise, and few knew it was coming.
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Mail in ballots should be required to be notarized. Make arrangements for free notary at various public building and schools.

Forget the term early voting. Voting booths open and voting booths close. You vote during the period they are open.

If you live in a foreign country by choice you can vote at the embassy.
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Question to people familiar with Fulton County? Is the northern part of the county skewed towards the Dems or the GOP?

Reason I ask is because the election observer, Carter Jones, whose notes I referenced in my prior post stated that the poll pads for the northern part of the county were not distributed until after midnight the day of the election.

Rick Barron was also "reprogramming" the poll pads, with what, it is not clear.
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Revised my answer. I just looked, Fulton county goes to the north, and it is Democrat. So Northern Atlanta is still Democrat.
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