"If I give you 20 M&Ms, and you want 30, you can keep counting it, but you did not get 30 M&Ms," said David Becker of the Center for Election Innovation and Research, a former Department of Justice voting rights attorney and elections expert. "This is not an effort to find the truth."
Sounds like he is laying the ground work for the talking points. He is implying the audit is doing what the poll workers actually accomplished....manufacturing "M&Ms". He is ignoring the possibility of what the previous poster said about finding fake M&Ms.
John Fredericks: We now have two state senators, Republicans, Beach and Jones, who are calling for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to be side-by-side with the forensic analysis looking at these 147,000 mail-in ballots Were there counterfeit ballots? Six affidavits now, we had four now there's six, six affidavits of veteran election officials are alleging that up to 30,000 of these 147,000 ballots are fake! Somebody printed them up on a machine and ran them through a vote-counting machine that are not real that are not attached to anybody.
Georgia Bureau of Investigations is not beholden to the AG's office nor Sec of State. Only the governor can order them to stand down and not participate.
I think what they meant to say is there were a total of 40 M&Ms: 21 red and 19 blue.. except that someone found 4 more in the middle of the night and swears there should have been 44 instead of 40 all along and all 4 new ones just happened to be blue.
New Hampshire Auditors Find Problem: Scan Counted 28 Percent of Test Ballots for GOP Candidates
This not new territory by any means but failure to understand the vast significance of what this means is.
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Auditors who are examining votes in Windham, New Hampshire, may have discovered why initial results showed a discrepancy in the vote count for a Democrat candidate.
Republicans in Windham, New Hampshire won all four seats in the legislative election on Nov. 3, but a Democrat candidate, Kristi St. Lauren, requested a recount, which was granted because she lost by just 24 votes.
However, during a hand recount, it was revealed that she didn't lose by 24 votes. Instead, the effort revealed that the GOP candidates had actually received 300 additional votes, while St. Laurent lost 99 votes.
An audit was carried out to determine why there was a discrepancy in the initial results and the recount tally. Now, the auditors involved in the process have said that they may have discovered the reason why.
"We now have experimental confirmation that if the contest is undervoted, a fold through a vote target can create a vote. None of the 65 ballots [were] marked for St. Laurent, but the machines interpreted 25 of the folds as votes for her," wrote the Twitter account, WindhamNHAuditors, which is operated by auditors Harri Hursti, Mark Lindeman, and Phillip Stark. It later clarified that it was 75 votes, not 65 votes.
It needs to be noted that Mark Lindeman is a Dem operative and at various times on the Soros payroll. Even HE is saying this. Dominion machines are a POS.
I can't wait until Soros dies. I know his beta progressive son is just as bad, but that demon needs to return to hell.
His billions have spawned hydras. His stain on the world won't be eradicated soon. Working for Soros is required for working for the State Department. When you get fired, you cool your jets at one of high compensation think tanks writing papers that few people see until you get back at State.
Foreign service officers no longer even GAS about the best interests of the USA. They do what they are told to do...by Soros.
I can't wait until Soros dies. I know his beta progressive son is just as bad, but that demon needs to return to hell.
His billions have spawned hydras. His stain on the world won't be eradicated soon. Working for Soros is required for working for the State Department. When you get fired, you cool your jets at one of high compensation think tanks writing papers that few people see until you get back at State.
Foreign service officers no longer even GAS about the best interests of the USA. They do what they are told to do...by Soros.
Agreed, but the head of the snake spawning this needs to return to hades. His son is a progressive but nowhere near as focused as his dad. Perhaps his influence will dissipate once he's gone. Even if it doesn't, he still needs to go.
I can't wait until Soros dies. I know his beta progressive son is just as bad, but that demon needs to return to hell.
His billions have spawned hydras. His stain on the world won't be eradicated soon. Working for Soros is required for working for the State Department. When you get fired, you cool your jets at one of high compensation think tanks writing papers that few people see until you get back at State.
Foreign service officers no longer even GAS about the best interests of the USA. They do what they are told to do...by Soros.
I didn't even call out people on TA, there was only a few, or social media celebrating when Rush died because when Soros, Pelosi, Omar, AOC etc die, then I'm going to post so many celebratory gifs until I catch a ban.
I think what they meant to say is there were a total of 40 M&Ms: 21 red and 19 blue.. except that someone found 4 more in the middle of the night and swears there should have been 44 instead of 40 all along and all 4 new ones just happened to be blue.
Back to NH. The woman holding the ballot is an election worker who was working the night of the election and discusses how frustrated she was that the scanners were kicking out the ballots as overvotes because of the folds that she took a ruler to try to smooth them out enough to get the machines to accept them.
Also, bleed through was not a problem because of the configuration of their ballot.
WINDHAM:🚨 Close up look of Nov 3rd ballot!@WAuditors are currently forensically analyzing absentee ballots under a microscope.
— Heather Mullins - Real America’s Voice (RAV-TV) (@TalkMullins) May 24, 2021
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An auditor in Windham, New Hampshire, said the majority of ballots had a fold in them and are being reviewed through the town's audit process investigating the 2020 election.
As many as 60% of ballots with machine-made or handmade folds were improperly counted by the town's four scanning machines, Harri Hursti, one of three auditors selected for the process, told the New Hampshire Union Leader on Monday.
"The error rate was way higher than we expected," Hursti said.
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Two of the auditors previously expressed their suspicion that the folds may have been to blame, but Hursti's comments on Monday provided more context to the scope of the issue.
"Because if someone voted for all four Republican candidates and the ballot happened to have its fold line going through St. Laurent's target, then that might be interpreted by the machines as an overvote, which would then subtract votes from each of those four Republican candidates," said Philip Stark, another member of the three-person audit team, according to a WMUR 9 report last week. "Conversely, if there were not four votes already in that contest by the voter, a fold line through that target could have caused the machine to interpret it as a vote for St. Laurent."
Link (Washington Examiner for those who are too lazy to hover over the link.)
A little more detail about the D drive that was deleted and recovered by Cotton's team. in Maricopa County.
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QUESTION ""Did you determine that the D drive was deleted?"
BEN COTTON "I did. We follow a very strict forensics acquisition process in which we don't turn on a system if its delivered powered off. We remove the hard drives and perform forensics imaging with write locks on to prevent any changes to those hard drives. We produce a bit for bit forensics copy of that drive. In the case of the EMS servers, there were 6 drives. 2 drives were for the operating system and they were (unintelligible) (he said mirror) configuration. So if something was changed on the operating system drive that would automatically be reflected on both drives."
"The other four drives were data drives and they were in a RAID configuration known as 1 plus zero. So you have a volume that is mirrored but also data redundancy and striped across both drives. If I don't turn on a system I don't have access to the RAID parameters and the county did not provide those to us. so I had to do a discovery process to determine what that RAID configuration was. Part of that process is a scan across those drives to detect partitions of data and to also detect a master file table which is a record of all of the directories of the files that are contained in that partition, and a pointer to where that data resides on the hard drive. In the course of performing that discovery I found that an MFT that clearly indicated that the data base directory was deleted from that server. All of this may be moot because subsequently I have been able to recover all the deleted files and I have access to that data."
I'm not a geek, so does that make sense to those of you who are?
I'm not a geek, so does that make sense to those of you who are?
I was not a geek, but I used to be able to speak geek, and yes, it makes sense to me. I was once a bit familiar with EMS storage machines and RAID data redundancies.
Cotton seems like a very technical cyber security and forensics guy. I can see why the Dems are freaking out and why they're so hung up on stopping the audit even though the only thing they have to cling onto is that a Cyber Ninja guy once retweeted Sydney Powell.
Very good job - by not powering anything up, you're guaranteeing the contents will 100% reflect the state of the machines as they were handed over.
He's accurately describing how RAID works. There's no chance of what the Democrats claim - that the audit deleted it themselves. These guys didn't touch the contents of the drive and in fact have done all their work on a complete bit-by-bit recreation of the original drives.
But even on the copies they made, they're not just booting it up and surfing the file explorer. They're looking at the raw data. So no, they couldn't have deleted it themselves.
Agreed with the above. These are pros and the Dems are getting nervous. Attacking a screenshot saying "I don't know what that is but it proves nothing!!" is very a desperate and completely baseless attack.
Back to New Hampshire, way way back all of the way to 2008. Harry Hursti testifies. John Silvestro, owne and President of LHS, sole provider in New Hampshire and other states in New England is seated in the gallery behind Hursti. He's interrupting but is not under oath, so if he lies there are no criminal repercussions.
That same family and company still control those AccuVote machines in NH, albeit an updated version (how updated we don't know.)
It was testimony like this from Hursti and demonstrations such as those in the video that led to the rebranding of Diebold into Premier Election Systems, which then was bought by ES&S and then in 2010, that part of ES&S was sold to Dominion.
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This video calls into question the accountability of New Hampshire elections. Most New Hampshire vote counts are not observable. Votes have been counted on the Diebold Accuvote ballot scanner technology, which can easily create an incorrect result because it allows alteration of vote results.
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Though a new version may address the particular vulnerability that was demonstrated, New Hampshire regulations require approval by the Ballot Law Commission before new versions can be installed, and that commission had not met to approve it prior to the 2008 presidential primary. New England vendor for the system (LHS Associates' John Silvestro, of Londonderry New Hampshire) attempted to mislead the House Election Committee, making a false statement that the problem had been addressed while knowing that it had not.
Very good job - by not powering anything up, you're guaranteeing the contents will 100% reflect the state of the machines as they were handed over.
He's accurately describing how RAID works. There's no chance of what the Democrats claim - that the audit deleted it themselves. These guys didn't touch the contents of the drive and in fact have done all their work on a complete bit-by-bit recreation of the original drives.
But even on the copies they made, they're not just booting it up and surfing the file explorer. They're looking at the raw data. So no, they couldn't have deleted it themselves.
Agreed with the above. These are pros and the Dems are getting nervous. Attacking a screenshot saying "I don't know what that is but it proves nothing!!" is very a desperate and completely baseless attack.
NH again. This is a guest post by a citizen in NH, Dr. Dave Strang.
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So far, this much we know. We do have a machine problem here in New Hampshire, as folds in the absentee ballots can cause our machines to erroneously record a vote if the fold goes through the oval for a candidate. In hindsight, it was no coincidence that all four of the Republican candidates who were shorted votes, were shorted almost the exact same amount, approximately 300 votes. What was a coincidence was the candidate who improperly gained votes, Kristi St. Laurent, also gained a multiple of 100, when it was discovered that she had incorrectly received an extra 99 votes.
It appears that the discovery of the fold/crease issue was due to the unique position of the New Hampshire House of Representative's race on the ballot being right at the junction of the middle and lower third of the ballot, where a crease could cause this issue. Because the NH House race is on the same area of the page in each town, we have looked at machine tape results from several other communities, but have not seen the same error rate.
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What we have seen though, is that many towns have bizarre date/time stamps on their machine tapes. Two towns, Londonderry and Amherst set one of their machines to zero and counted ballots on October 17 and October 23 respectively, 17 and 11 days before the election! Yes, an incorrectly set time clock could account for this, but why is this an issues in 2 of the 4 towns we have checked? Also, on several of the other Londonderry machines, they set the machine to zero around 11 PM, four hours after the polls closed when all ballots should've already been entered into the machines. They then ran final tally tapes three hours later. Were there observers from each party still in the room when this was done, many hours after the polls had closed?
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This is also not the only machine problem we have discovered, as not all of the four Windham machines incorrectly read a crease through a candidates oval as a vote. In fact, of the four Windham machines, the one that was purchased last (and is, therefore, the newest) was the one that miscounted votes the most. It was also discovered that this machine is the one out of the four that has gone the longest without being recalibrated. So, the activities at the audit on Monday and Tuesday are designed to look at the innards of these four machines to see if dust or electronic issues can be causing the difference between these machines.
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Although the cause of the vote discrepancy does not appear to be due to fraud, that does not absolve the Secretary of State for his lack of curiosity in explaining this abnormality, when he dismissed the discrepancy stating "it didn't change the outcome of the election." It also does not excuse the Attorney General for refusing to look into this issue either. Both of these State officials should be ashamed of their track record in this matter, only investigating when forced to do so by the NH Legislature.
So what does New Hampshire do going forward? If we decide to continue with machine voting, should we keep these dinosaurs of a voting machine? Why is it that the newest Windham machine had the most errors? We have been told by the analysts that because they are so old they are much harder to corrupt. If we keep them, do we stop folding absentee ballots and put them in larger manila envelopes so that they can stay flat? Or, if we continue with folding, do we hand count folded absentee ballots instead?
Did other New Hampshire communities also experience flawed machine counting?
Is there any legit reason why these machines were not checked and recalibrated before every election? LHS has the monopoly in New Hampshire and Vermont, maybe other states in New England. Are they charging too much for that service and so it is not done as often?
I watched the video from NH that showed the bleed through on the ballots and the folded ballot issue. Does anyone know that these ballots showing errant marks and overvotes would end up being adjudicated manually in NH? I'm not certain how the issue was handled at the time other than I know the vote totals were not correct.
I watched the video from NH that showed the bleed through on the ballots and the folded ballot issue. Does anyone know that these ballots showing errant marks and overvotes would end up being adjudicated manually in NH? I'm not certain how the issue was handled at the time other than I know the vote totals were not correct.
At the time, they did a hand recount because they didn't trust the machines and there were only around 14,000 votes in Windham. Which then led to the question of why they couldn't trust the machines.
As the 2008 video from New Hampshire shows, this isn't their first rodeo regarding the issues with electronic voting. The addition of BMDs were supposed to solve the old Diebold problem. But now it is the calibration of the scanners that is untrustworthy.
At this point, fraud or not, Dominion should be discarded because they make a crappy product. And anyone certifying those systems should be fired.
Does anyone know if the gentleman who started the voting integrity company in Florida--Flavritas (sp)--is involved in the Georgia election affairs? I'm asking because his resume/qualifications seemed to suggest that Raffensberger can, according to a Georgia law, completely cover his tracks and ride merrily off into the sunset.
I really dislike Raffensberger, and very much want him caught up in the audit net that's likely to take place. But if the Georgia law gave him the authority to wipe away his culpability, I'm not sure there's much the good guys can do/
Does anyone know if the gentleman who started the voting integrity company in Florida--Flavritas (sp)--is involved in the Georgia election affairs? I'm asking because his resume/qualifications seemed to suggest that Raffensberger can, according to a Georgia law, completely cover his tracks and ride merrily off into the sunset.
I really dislike Raffensberger, and very much want him caught up in the audit net that's likely to take place. But if the Georgia law gave him the authority to wipe away his culpability, I'm not sure there's much the good guys can do/
If you are referencing Garland Favorito he's in Fulton County, Georgia and is one of nine plaintiffs that just received the judge's permission to inspect the absentee ballots.
Like the Michigan governor, I'm no big fan of Kemp or Whitmer. But the attorney generals for both of those states are really, really, corrupt people. I even think Dana Nessel probably has a black heart, and I rarely say that about anyone.
I watched the video from NH that showed the bleed through on the ballots and the folded ballot issue. Does anyone know that these ballots showing errant marks and overvotes would end up being adjudicated manually in NH? I'm not certain how the issue was handled at the time other than I know the vote totals were not correct.
At the time, they did a hand recount because they didn't trust the machines and there were only around 14,000 votes in Windham. Which then led to the question of why they couldn't trust the machines.
As the 2008 video from New Hampshire shows, this isn't their first rodeo regarding the issues with electronic voting. The addition of BMDs were supposed to solve the old Diebold problem. But now it is the calibration of the scanners that is untrustworthy.
At this point, fraud or not, Dominion should be discarded because they make a crappy product. And anyone certifying those systems should be fired.
So if they did a hand count, did they "fix" the ballots that were kicked out by the machine? What I am trying to determine is whether or not misread ballots could have been replaced with "fixed" adjudicated ballots, possibly fraudulently.
So if they did a hand count, did they "fix" the ballots that were kicked out by the machine? What I am trying to determine is whether or not misread ballots could have been replaced with "fixed" adjudicated ballots, possibly fraudulently.
Not every customer of Dominion's have the ballot adjudication feature. Judging by the age of these Accuvote machines, they didn't have that function.
So if they did a hand count, did they "fix" the ballots that were kicked out by the machine? What I am trying to determine is whether or not misread ballots could have been replaced with "fixed" adjudicated ballots, possibly fraudulently.
Not every customer of Dominion's have the ballot adjudication feature. Judging by the age of these Accuvote machines, they didn't have that function.
Logan has ties to the Michigan effort as well. In April, Logan and another cybersecurity expert involved in the Arizona audit, Ben Cotton, filed separate expert witness reports alleging security problems in voting machines in a lawsuit filed in rural Antrim County, Michigan, that sought to compel a statewide election audit there. That case was dismissed by a judge last week one of more than 60 court losses for pro-Trump groups in lawsuits challenging the 2020 election.
But Logan's and Cotton's claims were used by a Michigan attorney to bolster the case for a "forensic audit" of voting machines in rural Cheboygan County, in northern Michigan, earlier this month.
"If you don't have your vote counted as it was intended to count, we don't have a free country," attorney Stefanie Lambert, who had filed an appeal of the dismissal of a separate, unsuccessful lawsuit challenging Trump's loss in Michigan, told the Cheboygan County elections committee. She offered to provide auditors free of charge.
Political score-settling is not supposed to be part of the budgeting process, but you will have a hard time convincing Democratic members of the House Appropriations Committee of that.
On Tuesday morning, the Arizona House Appropriations Committee stripped Secretary of State Katie Hobbs of her ability to defend election lawsuits. It gave the power exclusively to the Attorney General.
Just that Republicans in many states are pushing for more audits.
It's a little more than that. The article is a complete smear of the audits referring to them in the age old democrat fashion as pursuing "debunked conspiracy theories". Lazy, lazy reporters. If anyone even casually looks at some of the early findings, they should be clamoring for changes even if only to rectify incompetence.
