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This Cotton guy is good.

Says he has recovered ALL OF THE DATA FROM THE DELETED FILES!

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Oeflly the data he recovered was NOT files of Dominion reconstructed data to buscate or replace the original data.

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My understanding is what he recovered was the optical images and adjudication logs.

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16621-Duplicate ballots. That's what I'm attacking. If they can't provide the original with the same unique identifier, it's going to hurt. We know they did it, but that'll prove they were printing ballots like they're printing money.

/Shaking my tiny internet fist at you, hawg.

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The nmber of duplicate ballots should be the exact number of original ballots duplicated.

The votes on he original ballots should be hand counted by at least 3 people and match the votes on the duplicate ballots.

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Banks can move billions of dollars around everyday without losing a penny.
Billions of stocks can be traded on the NY stock exchange without a single stock being lost...

But we can't count votes.

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They don't want to because they know they will never be held liable.

I wish somebody would step forward with an offering of a huge reward for information that leads to the crooks that did this. Screw this "proper" *****

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Along with immunity from prosecution.

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Bennett says the only attempted security breach was by Ryan Macias. Lied saying he was press twice but then Sec of State Hobbs appointed him as her observer. LOL. Dem operative tried to breach security, twice.

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At minimum, on his second attempted breach he should have been handcuffed and taken to the nearest police station for arrest.

Back to Georgia.

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Six months after the November 3, 2020 election, Fulton County has failed to produce complete chain of custody documents for 18,901 vote-by-mail absentee ballots deposited by voters into drop boxes.
The Fulton County missing documentation is a little more than five percent of the estimated 333,000 vote-by-mail absentee ballots cast in the November 3, 2020 general election for which chain of custody documentation is still missing.
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has refused to collect, count, and verify the chain of custody documentation associated with an estimated 600,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes in the 2020 general election. Instead, Raffensperger has said it is a county responsibility. The Georgia Star News has filed Open Records Requests with all 159 counties in the state to obtain this documentation and report on it to the public.
Joe Biden was certified as the winner of Georgia's 16 electoral college votes by a margin of less than 12,000 votes out of 5 million cast, 1.3 million of which were vote-by-mail: 700,000 delivered through the regular mail and 600,000 deposited in drop boxes.

The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported that 145,000 absentee votes by mail ballots were cast in Fulton County in the November 3, 2020 general election out of more than 524,000 votes cast. Joe Biden's margin of victory over Donald Trump in Fulton County was a resounding margin of more than 243,000 votes.

Fulton County first responded to The Star News request in January, but that data proved insufficient.
On May 3 six months after the November 3, 2020 presidential election Fulton County provided The Georgia Star News with a thumb drive that county officials said contained PDF files of every ballot transfer form filled out for the 40 days prior to election day November 3 as well as election day itself.

Each ballot transfer form was required by State Election Board Emergency Rule 83-1-14-0.8-.14 promulgated and approved by the State Election Board at their July 1, 2020 meeting, which set out requirements for a transfer form to document absentee ballots delivered by voters to drop boxes.

These forms were required to include the date and time of pick up by the county workers that picked up absentee ballots deposited in the 37 drop boxes set up around the county and transported them to a designee of the Fulton County registrar, signed with date and time of receipt by that designee of the Fulton County registrar.

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The ballots lacking proper chain of custody are identifiable by batch and bin numbers. Pull those ballots, run them through the tabulators AND hand recount. Then make the required adjustments to the totals.

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This Cotton guy is good.

Says he has recovered ALL OF THE DATA FROM THE DELETED FILES!

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Oeflly the data he recovered was NOT files of Dominion reconstructed data to buscate or replace the original data.

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My understanding is what he recovered was the optical images and adjudication logs.

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Agreed, but the pointers to the data had been deleted or changed making getting the data difficult. Who or how were these pointers changed? Anyone knowledgeable enough to perform this should be able to replace the original data with false data. Would be very complex in order to make all the numbers look reasonable, but not impossible.

Cotton testimony on this point is in the link at the bottom

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The unique ID is there specifically for the 1:1 match.

But that's just one of the many, many ways they can bust them.

Here, the guy says (paraphrasing): "This is over 140K votes coming in during one drop. The machine(s) can't count that many ballots that quickly."

Back to the PA primary today!

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In Fayette County, voters casting ballots in the Republican primary were informed voting machines were not accepting their ballots due to an issue with barcodes located on their ballot.

On Tuesday afternoon, the Fayette County Board of Election delivered new ballots with barcodes, so precincts could scan and count ballots being cast following the barcode issue.

"The scanning machine was not scanning. At first, we thought it was all ballots, but then realized it was only Republican ballots," said Chris Varney, Fayette County Judge of Elections.

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According to Varney, poll workers began noticing scanning programs shortly after their precinct opened.
"Just to make it fair, because if someone has a ballot and they miss mark it, you know the Republicans wouldn't have a chance to correct it, but the Democrats do. So, now we're not scanning any of them. We're just putting them in the back," said Varney.

"It does seem to be an issue with how the barcodes were printed," said St. Rep. Matt Dowling, R Fayette County.

Dowling told Channel 11, the board of elections informed his office, the barcode issue was impacting both Republican and Democratic voters.

Because of the issue, the Fayette County Republican Party filed an emergency petition for a judge to order all ballots not to be scanned, and instead, have the Judge of Elections and poll workers tally the ballots at the end of the day.

Dowling tells Channel 11 he is satisfied with the decision.

"I think that it is the best outcome we can have, but moving forward, we have to investigate how an error like this takes place," said Dowling.

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Whichever vendor printed those ballots is in some hot water. I immediately thought it might be Runbeck Election Services out of Phoenix but have not been able to confirm yet.

Hey hawg, legals, how often do you believe a judge isn't necessarily bent, as they are just incompetent?

I'm asking because my immediate emotion is assume the judge loves their political party more than the law, but I'm sure there are plenty of judges who can't see the forest for the pleas!!

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Hey hawg, legals, how often do you believe a judge isn't necessarily bent, as they are just incompetent?

I'm asking because my immediate emotion is assume the judge loves their political party more than the law, but I'm sure there are plenty of judges who can't see the forest for the pleas!!

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Incompetent judges are not that hard to spot. They misquote statutes, misquote case law, seem lost at times, etc.

Agenda driven judges are harder to spot as they know the law but also know how to distort it and do so usually in WTH? manners with questions or hypotheticals out of the blue.

Reference one of the audio streams of the Flynn hearing at the DC Circuit level. Black judge starts asking about racial issues which of course had nothing to do with the writ of mandamus under discussion.

Let's make an example, say I spray some Roundup on 73 rose plants of my neighbor and my neighbor takes me to court and the judge says that I have to fix my neighbor's landscaping. If I am in Michigan I guess it would be acceptable to replace the 73 rose plants with a couple scrubby boxwoods that would be okay right? Because I technically fixed the landscaping; doesn't matter if my neighbor is satisfied with the results and the landscaping doesn't look like it is supposed to. I'm good to go right? That's the lesson I'm learning today.

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Let's make an example, say I spray some Roundup on 73 rose plants of my neighbor and my neighbor takes me to court and the judge says that I have to fix my neighbor's landscaping. If I am in Michigan I guess it would be acceptable to replace the 73 rose plants with a couple scrubby boxwoods that would be okay right? Because I technically fixed the landscaping; doesn't matter if my neighbor is satisfied with the results and the landscaping doesn't look like it is supposed to. I'm good to go right? That's the lesson I'm learning today.

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Well now you have gone and complicated it using roses. Were they Heirloom? Tea? Single petal? More petals? Scented? Or not?

I kid.

To me as a general rule people should not be allowed to investigate themselves, like ever.

My belief is that the state legislatures should be empowered by state laws that they can look over the shoulders of Sec of States when it comes to election matters, in session or not. It is solely their Constitutional duty to do so.

Georgia’s Legislature is apparently CONSIDERING a forensic audit of the 2020 election.

Do you think they should do it?

— Alex (@NotAlexSheppard) May 18, 2021

What is it Madea says, "Hell to the yes"!

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Here, the guy says (paraphrasing): "This is over 140K votes coming in during one drop. The machine(s) can't count that many ballots that quickly."

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The Aggie computer expert that was with Rudy during his initial presentation told them the same thing. Unexplainable anomalies.

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Let's make an example, say I spray some Roundup on 73 rose plants of my neighbor and my neighbor takes me to court and the judge says that I have to fix my neighbor's landscaping. If I am in Michigan I guess it would be acceptable to replace the 73 rose plants with a couple scrubby boxwoods that would be okay right? Because I technically fixed the landscaping; doesn't matter if my neighbor is satisfied with the results and the landscaping doesn't look like it is supposed to. I'm good to go right? That's the lesson I'm learning today.

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You could just argue the case is moot because they are already dead and there is no remedy that will reincarnate them.

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I'm sure you've addressed this already, but how can they legally do that. The data in those machines is government property, right?

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Gray area with claims of proprietary information, sadly. The data should belong to the customer, but being able to access that data during an audit to verify it becomes a proprietary trade secret...or so the argument goes.

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Mrs. Hawg,

I'd like to thank you for your focus on this thread. You've brought over your passion on the Mueller thread here, to the benefit of all, thank you. I become furious reading this thread and prevent myself from posting what should happen to these bad actors (traitors), because if I did, then I'd get perma'd and probably a visit from authorities. That being said, your work here is very much appreciated.

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Meeting adjourned. Senator Fann expressed her disappointment that MCBOS has indulged in personal attacks against her and others. Praised the professionalism of the audit team. Pointed out the any "waste" of taxpayers funds was due to the actions of MCBOS refusing access in the already secured MTEC building that they control.

Thus the were forced to rent the coliseum, pay for all of the additional security, etc. that would not have been necessary had the MCBOS allowed the audit to place in situ.

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Am I to assume that all democrats and apparently all election officials across the country, are now on record that third party audits for the purpose of accountability should be ended? Seems like businesses could save alot of money by ending the third party audits they need to endure. Every entity in our country should now be able to just say trust our numbers.

Seems like government regulation offices should be completly shut down. We are in the "trust us" era.

To my fellow Georgians - who share my concern for the integrity and security of our elections - I invite you to join me at Liberty Plaza in Atlanta for a press conference tomorrow at 11:00am.

I will be making a huge announcement.

RSVP here: https://t.co/eCOnwviNKq

— Vernon Jones (@RepVernonJones) May 18, 2021

New push for an audit.

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Meeting adjourned. Senator Fann expressed her disappointment that MCBOS has indulged in personal attacks against her and others. Praised the professionalism of the audit team. Pointed out the any "waste" of taxpayers funds was due to the actions of MCBOS refusing access in the already secured MTEC building that they control.

Thus the were forced to rent the coliseum, pay for all of the additional security, etc. that would not have been necessary had the MCBOS allowed the audit to place in situ.

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MCBOS has certainly lowered themselves into the gutter with personal attacks while I haven't seen anything from the auditors or Senator Fann resorting to personal attacks.

Even the statement data was deleted pointed no one out specifically and only asked if it could be explained which the MCBOS totally ignored the question.

Michigan changed their state constitution in 2018 to allow for voters to sue for statewide audit or local audits recounts. That amendment was to be liberally construed in the favor of the voter. State legislature thereafter passed a law that Sec of State would run such audits. So what the judge did yesterday was rule that whatever the Sec of State says was "an audit" under the constitutional amendment. So the judge concluded there was no further relief he could provide. Quite an appealable case, it sounds like to me.

DePerno explains it in a video Here

ETA: This was a procedural ruling only. Not about any of the evidence at all. But DePerno will be able to continue to inspect and explore what he already has.

Thanks to Will and Hawg (and others) for continuing to provide updates.

I've personally lost all faith in our election process and trying to temper excitement as we keep seeing audits come out. I'm not an overturn of the current administration*, but would love to see a true audit with true results, and most importantly law breakers held accountable (regardless of political party).

*stolen administration

That Deperno has some fantastical evidence. However I was annoyed that he snubbed the national coverage MSM opportunity CNN, WP, etc. for a stupid brady bunch zoom meeting. Plus! WTH is up with "we are not going to talk about that" response when acknowledging he had a voting machine in his possession... look at me! Kraken style.

Depressing, lost fundamental confidence just like finding out life's football team thinks you're racist and hates you.

To make the appeal even stronger, Sec of State issued guidelines for especially detailed actual audits including signature verifications, tabulation records, the ballots themselves, etc. in 2019. Then the legislature passed the law saying an election audit is constituted of, is up to the Sec of State. But in the Antrim case she's actually a party to the case as a defendant/intervenor.

So she didn't follow any of the procedures she published in 2019 in this case but pronounced the election secure and fraud free despite that. At one point, her counsel even told the judge that they had not conducted an audit but of course the statements of counsel are not evidence, so the judge noted it but did not act on it.

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That Deperno has some fantastical evidence. However I was annoyed that he snubbed the national coverage MSM opportunity CNN, WP, etc. for a stupid brady bunch zoom meeting. Plus! WTH is up with "we are not going to talk about that" response when acknowledging he had a voting machine in his possession... look at me! Kraken style.

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His office was broken into on Friday. So he's not going to confirm nor deny he has them in his possession. And even if he had done interviews with MSM, they would have selectively edited, lumped him in with Powell and Wood as a conspiracy theorist and most notably lie and say his case was dismissed based on the lack of evidence of fraud.

There just are not many honest journalists who would conduct a fair interview these days.

But back to Maricopa. For those who have not seen the testimony yesterday some additional detail.

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The information that was allegedly deleted from a Maricopa County election machine has been recovered, an auditor told state lawmakers on Tuesday.

Ben Cotton, founder of CyFIR, one of four firms working on the 2020 election audit, said at the Arizona State Capitol in Phoenix that he discovered a master file table "that clearly indicated that the database directory was deleted from that server."

"Subsequently, I've been able to recover all of those deleted files, and I have access to that data," he added. "I have the information I need from the recovery efforts of the data."

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This has been known for several days for those closely watching yet the MCBOS immediately puts out a false tweet in response.

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Maricopa County responded in a tweet on Tuesday: "Just want to underscore that AZ Senate's @ArizonaAudit account accused Maricopa County of deleting files- which would be a crime- then a day after our technical letter explained they were just looking in the wrong place- all of a sudden 'auditors' have recovered the files."

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Auditors told Maricopa County officials through the Arizona Senate earlier this month that they discovered an entire database directory from an election machine had been deleted.

In addition, the main database for election management software was not found anywhere on the machine, despite it being referenced as the location for the database.

"This suggests that the main database for all election related data for the November 2020 General Election has been removed," Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, wrote to Maricopa County's Board of Supervisors.

The board later said the allegation was false, accusing auditors of making a mistake while performing their analysis. The Maricopa County Elections Department, in a technical analysis, said officials and subject matter experts reviewed the allegation and found the database folder in question was not deleted.

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There is a missing piece of information here and that is exactly what the auditors did while they were in possession of the machines, many of which have already been forensically coppied and the physical machines returned to Maricopa County.

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Cotton told the state Senate meeting on Tuesday that the firm follows a strict forensics acquisitions process by removing hard drives from a machine and performing forensics imaging with "write blocks" that will prevent any changes to the hard drives before making a copy of the drive. He said the drives for the operating system were in a "mirror configuration," which means that changes anywhere on the operating system drive would be automatically reflected on both drives.

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The state Senate in late 2020 issued several subpoenas for ballots, election machines, and other materials to conduct a forensic audit. The county took the matter to court, arguing the subpoenas were too broad, but a county judge ruled in favor of the Senate.

Router or router images and election machine access were included in the original subpoenas.

Cotton expressed confusion about the county's assertion that providing even router images could compromise sensitive resident data, telling senators that the data "should not exist on that router, period."

He also wondered about public reports by Pro V&V, a machine auditor that reviewed some of the machines in February, that the county's election systems don't touch the Internet.

"The extension of that would be that they do not touch the county network because that's exposed to the Internet and to say that the data corresponding to these networks would somehow compromised law enforcement activity or PII data seems incongruous to the previous statements," he added, referring to personally identifiable information data.

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As far as the passwords go, Dominion declined to provide them to auditors and the county has said it does not have them itself.

Giving over the passwords would amount to releasing "intellectual property," Dominion said in a recent statement. The firm said it would release the passwords only to firms accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, the firm leading the audit for the Arizona Senate, told senators that the passwords do not give access to source code. He said there was some miscommunication or misunderstanding involved.

For now, auditors only have "poll worker access" to the systems with the passwords they were given, Cotton said. To fully carry out the audit, they would need access at an administrator or technician level.
"In the course of communications with the county officials, it was disclosed to us that the Maricopa County officials apparently do not have access at the administrative or technician level for their own tabulating systems. That level of access and those credentials are maintained in the sole possession of two Dominion employees that are apparently full time contractors within the Maricopa County infrastructure," he said.

"The biggest challenge there is one, it doesn't appear that they have control of their own equipment when it comes to configuring and preparing for an election and two, they can't validate that their own policies and procedures are being carried out without the ability to validate the configurations of the systems," he added.

If the passwords are conveyed, auditors estimate it would take less than two days to gather the data they need.

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Can someone help me to zoom in on this? TIA.

Why I ask.

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National. A fascinating timeline developed by Arizona-based Runbeck Election Services, Inc., provides insight into the vote-by-mail process planned out by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, the Elections Infrastructure Coordinating Council, and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Committee in the Dept of Homeland Security. Here is one screenshot from that timeline:

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Runbeck allegedly partnered with Dominion Systems and handled a LOT of mail-in ballots during the 2020 election, including for Fulton County (GA), Maricopa County (AZ), and Tarrant County (TX). Here is a September 2020 article from AZ Central that proves a good overview of what Runbeck does. You might remember that CISA put out that 12 November statement that there was "no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised." I guess they missed this August 2020 Washington Examiner report about "ballot errors, theft, harvesting, and dumping."

And it makes one wonder if these DHS folks have spoken with Matthew DePerno lately!

In any event, the Runbeck vote-by-mail timeline indicates a turnkey mail-in ballot operation: print, mail, receive, sort, and tabulate (in partnership with Dominion Systems). What do you suppose they did with ballots received that were marked "Return to Sender"? Maybe an AUDIT-of-election can find out the answer!

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Can anyone say "Fulton County's chain of custody problem?" How this company is allowed to basically run and tabulate the vote by mail system is beyond outrageous.

And in Runbeck's backyard in Phoenix, Jan Bryant testified that ballots continued to come into the counting center for at least a week after the election and they came from Runbeck. She was no longer at the counting center past a week after the election.

Need the original. I zoomed in, but most of it is illegible.

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Need the original. I zoomed in, but most of it is illegible.

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Does this help? Link

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Need the original. I zoomed in, but most of it is illegible.

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Does this help? Link

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I was just coming to post that.

It looks fine to me there, does it not work for you?

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Need the original. I zoomed in, but most of it is illegible.

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Does this help? Link

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I was just coming to post that.

It looks fine to me there, does it not work for you?

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I'll play with it for a little bit. My eyesight isn't that great with the small type. But thank you.

Found what I was looking for. Page 2 line 42 labelled "Ballot Printing".

Next line: "Select and Certify Ballot Printer" is done by "Voting System Vendor."

Again I come back to Jovan Pulitzer's presentation on the misalignment of the cues or barcodes instructing the tabulators where to look on the ballots for the information. Basic graphic design stuff that when done incorrectly by accident or on purpose, those ballots get thrown to adjudication.

We know from other articles that Fulton County GA announced that their ballots were prepared by Runbeck and Dominion working together.

So everywhere Runbeck operated in which Dominion also operated, it was Dominion performing that service.