MooreTrucker said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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I'm just super pissed that evil has prevailed and these low lifes have been rewarded for their absolutely despicable behavior and constant stream of lies for the last four years. Few people have ever been less deserving of such a reward.

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Evil has not prevailed, and nobody has received any kind of reward.

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I hope you're right, but I have little faith in the courts to get this right.

Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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You're probably smarter than us. Definitely.

Conservative Ag said:

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Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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You're probably smarter than us. Definitely.

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Go on...

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Conservative Ag said:

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Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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You're probably smarter than us. Definitely.

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Go on...

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You first. Bet I pay more in taxes than you make.

Conservative Ag said:

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Conservative Ag said:

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Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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You're probably smarter than us. Definitely.

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Go on...

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You first. Bet I pay more in taxes than you make.

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I PM'd you the answer. We shall see.

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Conservative Ag said:

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Conservative Ag said:

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Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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You're probably smarter than us. Definitely.

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Go on...

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You first. Bet I pay more in taxes than you make.

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I PM'd you the answer. We shall see.

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$275k.

Conservative Ag said:

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Conservative Ag said:

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Conservative Ag said:

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Bovada gives Trump about 8-9% chance of winning this at -1100 Biden.

So betting odds... trying to interpret what's happening... If this was all but over you'd think it needs to be around -2500 Biden to attract the right balance of betting... or maybe there are enough Trump fanatics that is good enough as it is.

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You're probably smarter than us. Definitely.

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Go on...

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You first. Bet I pay more in taxes than you make.

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I PM'd you the answer. We shall see.

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$275k.

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Cast Iron said:

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All besides the original 3 are absolute garbage

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Revenge of the Sith wasn't bad at all

GA has flipped to Biden by <1k.

Still 5.5k left to count

AggieUSMC said:

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Still 5.5k left to count

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Are there still outstanding military ballots?

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AggieUSMC said:

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Still 5.5k left to count

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Are there still outstanding military ballots?

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I wonder how many states, if any, are completely finished counting.

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Still 5.5k left to count

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Are there still outstanding military ballots?

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I wonder how many states, if any, are completely finished counting.

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I think a lot states have election provisions to continue counting mail-in ballots postmarked by election day. That could definitely take a while.

Alright so when I went to bed we still had a chance, but now what?

Georgia Biden
PA Biden?
Arizona?
Is this thing over?

As a law school graduate, I've spent a good deal of time reading about the legal challenges and how they might work. I don't see anything but millions of wasted dollars in the challenge to PA, MI, WI, and GA.

There are legitimate cases in NV and Arizona.

Why is PA case no good?

What's strong in AZ case?

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As a law school graduate, I've spent a good deal of time reading about the legal challenges and how they might work. I don't see anything but millions of wasted dollars in the challenge to PA, MI, WI, and GA.

There are legitimate cases in NV and Arizona.

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I agree on NV to have a closer look at those reported cases of several thousand address changes. I'm curious about WI solely to have a second look at those Milwaukee wards and to make absolutely certain about that 138,000 ballot correction.

HoustonAggie37713 said:

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As a law school graduate, I've spent a good deal of time reading about the legal challenges and how they might work. I don't see anything but millions of wasted dollars in the challenge to PA, MI, WI, and GA.

There are legitimate cases in NV and Arizona.

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From my basic, unprofessional readings, same conclusion.

It will never be enough. A Q level Hail Mary, 600D chess move is all that is left IMO. And yeah, about that.....

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Alright so when I went to bed we still had a chance, but now what?

Georgia Biden
PA Biden?
Arizona?
Is this thing over?

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Are all of the military votes counted in GA? I'm seeing a Biden lead of less than 1,000.

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Tyrone_The_Tuna said:

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Alright so when I went to bed we still had a chance, but now what?

Georgia Biden
PA Biden?
Arizona?
Is this thing over?

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Are all of the military votes counted in GA? I'm seeing a Biden lead of less than 1,000.

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They said thee will still be overseas military ballots to be counted for awhile. I don't know what that number of ballots would typically be at this stage.

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Alright so when I went to bed we still had a chance, but now what?

Georgia Biden
PA Biden?
Arizona?
Is this thing over?

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It's been over. They just have to torture us for a few weeks in the courts.

What is the status of the NC and Georgia Senate results?
After the debacle in GA, I have little confidence that either of the runoffs will result in GOP keeping the Senate when all shakes out in January.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

And if/when the Dem machine ends up taking over the Senate, how soon do they proceed with the SC packing? Is that a first day in office kind of priority, or something that they get around to later?

HoustonAggie37713 said:

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As a law school graduate, I've spent a good deal of time reading about the legal challenges and how they might work. I don't see anything but millions of wasted dollars in the challenge to PA, MI, WI, and GA.

There are legitimate cases in NV and Arizona.

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If Trump is running around yelling fraud in PA, WI, MI, GA, NV, and AZ...needing to overturn not just one of those states but a bunch of them...if Biden is sitting there at 300+ electoral votes...it would look like a sore loser tantrum even to many in his own party. Complete waste of time and money dragging things out, only the lawyers would be happy billing the clients.

Looks like Biden has a 1k vote lead with 5k votes left to count in GA. Biden has been getting approx 70-80% of these votes. So it looks like Biden will have an approx 4K vote lead when they are all counted. I heard there are about 9k military/overseas ballots that still need to be counted. I don't see Trump getting enough of those to make up the difference.

HoustonAggie37713 said:

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As a law school graduate, I've spent a good deal of time reading about the legal challenges and how they might work. I don't see anything but millions of wasted dollars in the challenge to PA, MI, WI, and GA.

There are legitimate cases in NV and Arizona.

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Because those are valid elections amirite? Benford's law is clearly follow in those states. Oh wait, no it isn't. Every candidate follows it except for Biden's votes, which follow it worse than a rigged Iranian election or Enron's financial before they went belly up.

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Looks like Biden has a 1k vote lead with 5k votes left to count in GA. Biden has been getting approx 70-80% of these votes. So it looks like Biden will have an approx 4K vote lead when they are all counted. I heard there are about 9k military/overseas ballots that still need to be counted. I don't see Trump getting enough of those to make up the difference.

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They said overseas, military and provisional were not included in that 5k number.

Overseas workers - most likely Republicans right?
Military - republican
Provisional - showed up on Election Day in person to vote and filled out a provisional ballot - Republicans

Even though stupid Biden and Kamala will be in office, the voter turnout and demographic shift for the republicans this election was HUGE. If you've been watching any democratic coverage you would expect them to be celebrating and spiking the ball, but they actually appear very worried about the demographic shifts (30% Latinos for republicans, big losses in the house, 18% of blacks for Trump, majority of working class for Trump). Even though they clearly cheated, gaining ground in the house and keeping the senate are huge in keeping us from the consequences of a Biden/Harris administration.

I don't think the litigation will change the results of the election, however I do think it will change the way states do things and make it more fair, just like FL now. FL went from being one of the sketchiest most cheating election process states to the most efficient and (felt like) fair. I think that this election could actually set us up for success in 2024 (with a solid candidate) and beyond, maybe even more than another 4 years of Trump would have as it would have been more shenanigans the entire time.


Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather have justice and another 4 years of Trump/Pence and just "figure it out from there" but I am willing to say that the results aren't ALL doom and gloom. Now ask me again after I've had my coffee.

Aggie118 said:

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Even though stupid Biden and Kamala will be in office, the voter turnout and demographic shift for the republicans this election was HUGE. If you've been watching any democratic coverage you would expect them to be celebrating and spiking the ball, but they actually appear very worried about the demographic shifts (30% Latinos for republicans, big losses in the house, 18% of blacks for Trump, majority of working class for Trump). Even though they clearly cheated, gaining ground in the house and keeping the senate are huge in keeping us from the consequences of a Biden/Harris administration.

I don't think the litigation will change the results of the election, however I do think it will change the way states do things and make it more fair, just like FL now. FL went from being one of the sketchiest most cheating election process states to the most efficient and (felt like) fair. I think that this election could actually set us up for success in 2024 (with a solid candidate) and beyond, maybe even more than another 4 years of Trump would have as it would have been more shenanigans the entire time.


Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather have justice and another 4 years of Trump/Pence and just "figure it out from there" but I am willing to say that the results aren't ALL doom and gloom. Now ask me again after I've had my coffee.

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What you hope is that Republicans can find a way to keep the momentum with blacks, Hispanics, and the working class without Trump and that those demographic gains and shifts weren't strictly a Trump phenomenon.

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Aggie118 said:

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Even though stupid Biden and Kamala will be in office, the voter turnout and demographic shift for the republicans this election was HUGE. If you've been watching any democratic coverage you would expect them to be celebrating and spiking the ball, but they actually appear very worried about the demographic shifts (30% Latinos for republicans, big losses in the house, 18% of blacks for Trump, majority of working class for Trump). Even though they clearly cheated, gaining ground in the house and keeping the senate are huge in keeping us from the consequences of a Biden/Harris administration.

I don't think the litigation will change the results of the election, however I do think it will change the way states do things and make it more fair, just like FL now. FL went from being one of the sketchiest most cheating election process states to the most efficient and (felt like) fair. I think that this election could actually set us up for success in 2024 (with a solid candidate) and beyond, maybe even more than another 4 years of Trump would have as it would have been more shenanigans the entire time.


Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather have justice and another 4 years of Trump/Pence and just "figure it out from there" but I am willing to say that the results aren't ALL doom and gloom. Now ask me again after I've had my coffee.

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What you hope is that Republicans can find a way to keep the momentum with blacks, Hispanics, and the working class without Trump and that those demographic gains and shifts weren't strictly a Trump phenomenon.

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Unfortunately, this is probably true. The RINOs want trump gone and their power back. They are the group that don't appeal to these demographics.