We are 47-47 right now

Arizona:

• Mark Kelly (D): 52.6%
• Martha McSally (R): 47.4%

Michigan:

• Gary Peters (D): 49.2%
• John James (R): 48.9%

North Carolina:

• Thom Tillis (R): 48.7%
• Cal Cunningham (D): 46.9%

Georgia:

• David Perdue (R): 50.5%
• Jon Ossoff (D): 47.2%

Maine:

• Susan Collins (R): 50.3%
• Sara Gideon (D): 43%

Alaska:

• Dan Sullivan (R): 62.9%
• Al Gross (D): 31.8%

Other Georgia race already in runoff

We need 4 of these races to hold the Senate.

FriscoKid said:

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The Senate is getting really worrisome now.

If we lose that then we are screwed.

Losing the WH is one thing. Not having a check on a progressive movement is a disaster.

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Well maybe some Republicans will start to get concerned with voting issues now! It's been quiet from many Republican elected officials watching Donald get taken down.

aginlakeway said:

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FriscoKid said:

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The Senate is getting really worrisome now.

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Georgia ain't electing 2 Democratic senators after 20+ years of GOP senators.

GOP will be favored by +5 or more in both races.

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They just voted for Biden. You think that republicans are going to be excited to get out and vote after the bad taste that will be left in their mouth over this one???

FriscoKid said:

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We are 47-47 right now

Arizona:

• Mark Kelly (D): 52.6%
• Martha McSally (R): 47.4%

Michigan:

• Gary Peters (D): 49.2%
• John James (R): 48.9%

North Carolina:

• Thom Tillis (R): 48.7%
• Cal Cunningham (D): 46.9%

Georgia:

• David Perdue (R): 50.5%
• Jon Ossoff (D): 47.2%

Maine:

• Susan Collins (R): 50.3%
• Sara Gideon (D): 43%

Alaska:

• Dan Sullivan (R): 62.9%
• Al Gross (D): 31.8%

Other Georgia race already in runoff

We need 4 of these races to hold the Senate.

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The Collins race is shocking to me.

FriscoKid said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FriscoKid said:

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The Senate is getting really worrisome now.

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Georgia ain't electing 2 Democratic senators after 20+ years of GOP senators.

GOP will be favored by +5 or more in both races.

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They just voted for Biden.

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Its going to be hard to get the dead back up to vote so soon in the runoff. They tend to need some down time between votes.

FriscoKid said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FriscoKid said:

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The Senate is getting really worrisome now.

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Georgia ain't electing 2 Democratic senators after 20+ years of GOP senators.

GOP will be favored by +5 or more in both races.

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They just voted for Biden got more votes.

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FIFY

AK, NC, and ME all look R. Will come down to GA runoff(s).

Hope we can flip McSally tonight.

barnyard1996 said:

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BIden gets elected with no mandate. Harris takes over at some point with even less mandate.

R's have senate and courts. Gridlock government and no radical legislations passes.

Reset for '22 and '24.

Everybody will live I promise.

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Biden can do a lot of damage with EOs and they aren't going to be overturned unless the supreme court starts batting them down (which never seems to go our way). Then we'll have to wait on another R president to overturn them which might be a long time since the media and Democrats have figured out a fool proof method to cheat their way to victory.

rah2003 said:

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/laptop-usbs-stolen-from-philadelphia-election-machine-warehouse/

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Nice of them not to give an idea of WHEN the laptop and USBs were stolen. If the USBs were token authenticators or the like, it doesn't matter what the laptop had on it...it's about what it could access.

I bet someone has posted "it's over" on every single page of this thread.

FriscoKid said:

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We are 47-47 right now

Arizona:

• Mark Kelly (D): 52.6%
• Martha McSally (R): 47.4%

Michigan:

• Gary Peters (D): 49.2%
• John James (R): 48.9%

North Carolina:

• Thom Tillis (R): 48.7%
• Cal Cunningham (D): 46.9%

Georgia:

• David Perdue (R): 50.5%
• Jon Ossoff (D): 47.2%

Maine:

• Susan Collins (R): 50.3%
• Sara Gideon (D): 43%

Alaska:

• Dan Sullivan (R): 62.9%
• Al Gross (D): 31.8%

Other Georgia race already in runoff

We need 4 of these races to hold the Senate.

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1 - Gideon has conceded.

I'm not sure how many Alaska votes have been counted but let's call him 2.

3 is likely Perdue, since Georgia is only counting any votes to flip it from Trump to Biden (Perdue is outperforming Trump).

4 is likely Tillis unless NC "finds" a ****load of "missing" ballots... not likely.

5 would be if McSally runs with Trump and Trump overtakes Arizona. We've been told this would happen for two days now.

What am I missing?

Chase said:

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rah2003 said:

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/laptop-usbs-stolen-from-philadelphia-election-machine-warehouse/

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Nice of them not to give an idea of WHEN the laptop and USBs were stolen. If the USBs were token authenticators or the like, it doesn't matter what the laptop had on it...it's about what it could access.

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The probably erroneous assumption is that it wasn't a theft by somebody on the inside who already has the access credentials to unlock it and use it. If it was stolen by somebody who still has their credentials, they can open it, unlock it, and use it to generate votes that will be indistinguishable from actual votes as long as they are tied to a current registered voter. Somebody who has those credentials also has access to the voter rolls and knows who isn't like to show up to vote.

FriscoKid said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FriscoKid said:

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The Senate is getting really worrisome now.

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Georgia ain't electing 2 Democratic senators after 20+ years of GOP senators.

GOP will be favored by +5 or more in both races.

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They just voted for Biden. You think that republicans are going to be excited to get out and vote after the bad taste that will be left in their mouth over this one???

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Yes, I think the GOP will be very motivated to vote in this race.

Senator elections in GA are very low turnout for Democrats.

We'll see. It's 2 months away. I see no advantage in pre-emptive panic.

FriscoKid said:

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Hope we can flip McSally tonight.

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I think she was down even more votes than Trump.

Chase said:

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rah2003 said:

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/laptop-usbs-stolen-from-philadelphia-election-machine-warehouse/

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Nice of them not to give an idea of WHEN the laptop and USBs were stolen. If the USBs were token authenticators or the like, it doesn't matter what the laptop had on it...it's about what it could access.

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Bad thing is that it was updated October 1, 2020. Meaning, whoever took it had a solid month to do whatever they were going to do with it.

Perdue is going to a runoff probably. I don't know how he can 50%

Hood said:

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FriscoKid said:

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We are 47-47 right now

Arizona:

• Mark Kelly (D): 52.6%
• Martha McSally (R): 47.4%

Michigan:

• Gary Peters (D): 49.2%
• John James (R): 48.9%

North Carolina:

• Thom Tillis (R): 48.7%
• Cal Cunningham (D): 46.9%

Georgia:

• David Perdue (R): 50.5%
• Jon Ossoff (D): 47.2%

Maine:

• Susan Collins (R): 50.3%
• Sara Gideon (D): 43%

Alaska:

• Dan Sullivan (R): 62.9%
• Al Gross (D): 31.8%

Other Georgia race already in runoff

We need 4 of these races to hold the Senate.

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1 - Gideon has conceded.

I'm not sure how many Alaska votes have been counted but let's call him 2.

3 is likely Perdue, since Georgia is only counting any votes to flip it from Trump to Biden (Perdue is outperforming Trump).

4 is likely Tillis unless NC "finds" a ****load of "missing" ballots... not likely.

5 would be if McSally runs with Trump and Trump overtakes Arizona. We've been told this would happen for two days now.

What am I missing?

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Perdue is at 49.95, which mans there will be a run off. We will be at 50 senators with the Georgia runoffs to determine whether the Senate is 50-50 with Harris as the tiebreaker, or 51-49/52-48 Republican.

Forum Troll said:

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AK, NC, and ME all look R. Will come down to GA runoff(s).

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ME has already been called for Collins and her opponent conceded.

That video really doesn't prove anything. It's quite possible that ballot was improperly filled out, upsetting the counter because it might have been a vote for his candidate.

Is anyone looking at the voter turnout for these counties in PA and GA? I know people were saying Wisconsin had a very unusually high voter turnout, just curious if its the same for these.

Maybe the Republican party can convince enough pissed off R voters that since the "powers that be stole the state from Trump" they can limit Biden/Harris's power by electing Perdue.

Plus, Ossoff is an epic ****** nozzle. He's underperforming Biden because he's a carpetbagging opportunist.

I agree. I just can't fathom Republicans, after what they will see as being cheated out of the White House, be ho hum on a two senate seat Special Election. It'll be a low turnout blowout election for the Republicans.

txags92 said:

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Chase said:

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rah2003 said:

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/laptop-usbs-stolen-from-philadelphia-election-machine-warehouse/

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Nice of them not to give an idea of WHEN the laptop and USBs were stolen. If the USBs were token authenticators or the like, it doesn't matter what the laptop had on it...it's about what it could access.

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The probably erroneous assumption is that it wasn't a theft by somebody on the inside who already has the access credentials to unlock it and use it. If it was stolen by somebody who still has their credentials, they can open it, unlock it, and use it to generate votes that will be indistinguishable from actual votes as long as they are tied to a current registered voter. Somebody who has those credentials also has access to the voter rolls and knows who isn't like to show up to vote.

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True but they don't need to be someone with credentials if they had long enough with the credentials of someone with access.

Thinking that THAT USER not having access TODAY means everything is (and was) secure is completely incorrect from a security standpoint. How long did someone have access to the network running the election is the real question. Was it even actually stolen or are they "losing it" so it can't be forensically examined?

Trump lead down to 90k in GA. 430k votes remaining, Biden needs 60%.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Trump lead down to 90k in GA. 430k votes remaining, Biden needs 60%.

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430k remaining.....

Until he doesn't get that and then they'll find 53,000 more.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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That video really doesn't prove anything. It's quite possible that ballot was improperly filled out, upsetting the counter because it might have been a vote for his candidate.

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On what planet is it ok for him to throw away ANY ballot regardless if it was filled correctly or not.

aginresearch said:

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I agree. I just can't fathom Republicans, after what they will see as being cheated out of the White House, be ho hum on a two senate seat Special Election. It'll be a low turnout blowout election for the Republicans.

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If they allow the massive mail ballots like the general election, then I'm very concerned that Republicans won't want to go vote in person again.

Aggies2009 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Trump lead down to 90k in GA. 430k votes remaining, Biden needs 60%.

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430k remaining.....

Until he doesn't get that and then they'll find 53,000 more.

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Assuming he means PA. And its 326K votes remaining.

But that said - Biden sweeps those votes in a big way and wins by around 100K votes.

To little time and low volume doesn't allow ballot harvesting on the scale necessary to swing this election. You need a general election to do this. By the next general election you can bet multiple Republican state legislatures will have tightened election precautions.

Biden's percentage take has been going down. He's starting to approach the 65/35 split danger line. He still has a bit of a cushion but if it continues to drop then things will get interesting.

aginresearch said:

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Biden's percentage take has been going down. He's starting to approach the 65/35 split danger line. He still has a bit of a cushion but if it continues to drop then things will get interesting.

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Then they'll find 53,000 more votes to count.