Brian Earl Spilner said:
I guess I was just assuming the Florida mail-in ballots were the same as everywhere else, where if the seal is broken, it is thrown out. As well as the signature not matching VERY closely to your state ID.
DannyDuberstein said:
With all of the technology we have available, it is amazing to me that we allow mailing of any type
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Legitimate question, not trying to stir the pot.
My understanding is most of the remaining votes to be counted are mail in ballots in a lot of these states. Why is it automatically assumed to be fraud that Biden is taking/growing his lead in these states?
What am I missing?
Marcus Aurelius said:
So the 1.4 million PA "mail in ballots" that mysteriously showed up in the wee hrs. Is it normal for mail in votes to be counted so late? Sorry, but this doesn't pass the smell test to me.
rwpag71 said:
That NC vote appears to be frozen in amber
Neither is anything else about how Pennsylvania prepared for this election.ABATTBQ11 said:Marcus Aurelius said:
So the 1.4 million PA "mail in ballots" that mysteriously showed up in the wee hrs. Is it normal for mail in votes to be counted so late? Sorry, but this doesn't pass the smell test to me.
They have 2.5 million total and did not count early. It's not "normal" but neither is anything else about this election.
hedge said:
What a ****ing joke of an election
I'm just reacting to what I'm seeing on this map.Zombie Jon Snow said:Silvertaps said:if you look at the counties sill in question, the precincts not reported trend very conservative.HossAg said:Just an Ag said:
This doesn't make any sense with 98% reporting
Unfortunately, they aren't very big counties. Even if it was 80/20 to Trump, unlikely you make up the difference to catch up.
AZ has said theirs is not rural vs urban like most of the others.
It is the opposite for whatever reason of most of those still counting - where it is ED voters not mail in to be counted. And ED voters were heavily Trump.
Then where is Fox getting their info?aginresearch said:
Absolutely. AZ is probably going to flip. It's the Republican MI. NV longer shot but Biden only up 8k. Hold on, things going to get crazy.
ABATTBQ11 said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
I guess I was just assuming the Florida mail-in ballots were the same as everywhere else, where if the seal is broken, it is thrown out. As well as the signature not matching VERY closely to your state ID.
Pennsylvania courts ruled that ballots cannot be thrown out if signatures don't match. As long as the voter declaration is there, it counts. The security of mail in and absentee ballots is basically nothing in many places.
barnyard1996 said:Then where is Fox getting their info?aginresearch said:
Absolutely. AZ is probably going to flip. It's the Republican MI. NV longer shot but Biden only up 8k. Hold on, things going to get crazy.
They did this all night. I watched Fox Business and the panel was openly questioning why Fox had not yet called states like Florida, when it was obvious that the President was going to win. They then hold off on calling Texas, which was closer but never really in doubt, until after they called California.Challenger 17 said:
They won't call NC and GA because they don't want to give Trump the electoral college lead going into this SHTF situation.
FbgTxAg said:
Good Morning
Arizona is RED.
CoppellAg93 said:SLAM said:hedge said:
What a ****ing joke of an election
Yep. This is a complete ****show. This is not how it should work, at all.
They trotted out two of their nerds to swear it was 1/400 chance of Trump winning.aginresearch said:
I don't know. You'd have to ask them. Apparently multiple people on FoxNews last night questioned the call. Everyone else has not called AZ.
Hard truth right here. I pride myself on being able to look at things objectively and do so here.MuckRaker96 said:
Even from an objective lens, it doesn't make sense that the states that knew they had enormous mail-in ballots and were expecting large in-person turnouts, weren't able to make staffing arrangements to have continuous qualified individuals on hand to count the ballots until the count was done. You can't tell me it's that difficult to find people qualified to count what a piece of paper says.
When a state decides it's too late or everyone's too tired or whatever, it looks really shady, even if everything is on the up and up. What's the difference if the votes are counted at 8 a.m. or 4 a.m. Do the numbers look different in the sunshine? Really ****ty planning might be the culprit, but because the "back at it" counts are all from the early mail-in votes that seem to have largely been Democratic, it makes Republicans naturally suspicious. And it would be that same way if the reverse was true. If you voted Biden and you went to sleep with him leading in Wisconsin and Michigan by large margins and got to work and he was behind in both places, you would be just as suspicious
Election reform has to come. We've gotten too big and too advanced to keep up this mumbo jumbo.
Wake me when the left half of the spectrum shows any interest in election integrity. All we have heard from them for the last decade is that we should be doing things that by their very nature make voting less secure.MuckRaker96 said:
Even from an objective lens, it doesn't make sense that the states that knew they had enormous mail-in ballots and were expecting large in-person turnouts, weren't able to make staffing arrangements to have continuous qualified individuals on hand to count the ballots until the count was done. You can't tell me it's that difficult to find people qualified to count what a piece of paper says.
When a state decides it's too late or everyone's too tired or whatever, it looks really shady, even if everything is on the up and up. What's the difference if the votes are counted at 8 a.m. or 4 a.m. Do the numbers look different in the sunshine? Really ****ty planning might be the culprit, but because the "back at it" counts are all from the early mail-in votes that seem to have largely been Democratic, it makes Republicans naturally suspicious. And it would be that same way if the reverse was true. If you voted Biden and you went to sleep with him leading in Wisconsin and Michigan by large margins and got to work and he was behind in both places, you would be just as suspicious
Election reform has to come. We've gotten too big and too advanced to keep up this mumbo jumbo.
aggiehawg said:He has coattails to flip the House, keep the Senate yet loses the Presidency?Ag12thman said:Would be huge.AgResearch said:This would be interesting...will25u said:
FbgTxAg said:
Good Morning
Arizona is RED.
