Pence batting cleanup in that press conference. He's nails as VP.

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I don't like this from Trump personally. I would rather let the votes be counted and then challenge.

I agree stopping the counting is BS, but I hate already claiming fraud before knowing what the final count is.

My question is how is stopping the counting tonight evidence of fraud?

We as conservatives want the truth to be told be the media. We should also seek truth before we make claims. I just wish Trump had the proof before saying there is fraud.

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I don't know Beat. How is that the only counties that stopped counties are heavy dem areas in swing states? Seeing how Even Harris/Dallas county can get their votes done on time, there is 0 excuse. Its foul play, and undermines the confidence in the election.

This wasn't a good move by Trump.

Sh^t is about to descend into chaos now.

Pence really looked like he didn't want to say anything.

Ban Cow Gas said:

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Unless you read with pictures, his response is a direct response to what Joe Biden's handlers had him say.

I think they were waiting for the Biden/Harris team to say something first. BTW, where was Harris?

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Under the podium servicing Joe

meh, this isn't your average election so you wont get your average press conferences. What we did get is your average incoherent Biden and your outspoken Trump. Shouldn't be a surprise.

Stand by! Stand back!

KEEP COUNTING THE BALLOTS!!!!!

This was inevitable with the mail in ballots. He predicted it and here we are.

Don't ****ing try to interpret what Trump said.

Call some Godda** States and stop pontificating.

Where is John King?

AvidAggie said:

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Danny Vermin said:

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You're right, the truth is not what anyone wants to hear.

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The truth that it's rigged? I would need solid proof of that before claiming it as truth

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How about if it flips you prove it isn't rigged. Surely a vote can be proven to be accurate. Recount and examine the legitimacy of every vote because that's fair right. That way every legal vote counts.

Seems fair.

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Why the **** is he spouting this nonsense when he hasn't even lost yet?

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4 years in and you are surprised that Trump slings crap against the wall????

He tends to preemptively make threats and then not do what he said. He has a motivation to do that. I think it keeps people on their toes and everyone involved in this should be scrutinized.

Two presidential candidates are going to say they won the election.

Did AZ shut it down for the night?

Businesses have literally boarded up their stores in anticipation of chaos regardless of outcome. I would normally hate him doing that, but I don't care anymore. Time to get in the mud.

YouBet said:

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This wasn't a good move by Trump.

Sh^t is about to descend into chaos now.

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The alternative is to wait for Fulton County to pull a Fairfax overnight while everyone is sleeping and we wake up to an absurdly improbable discovery of previously unknown votes. They have him boxed in, he can either pretend this thing is still above board and therefore accept losing, or he can call it out and put up a legal resistance to this.

Joe Biden screaming at cars in scripted speeches was enough of this macabre act I needed to see to know Trump's strong response is the right one.

outofstateaggie said:

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Did AZ shut it down for the night?

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I just saw it catch up 21K votes over a 1% reporting

Down 136K with 79% reporting

I found the hack to CNN. Mute it unless John King is on

Wisconsin 91% in Trump up 120k. That looks somewhat promising to me.
Michigan 71% in trump up 325k also looks good. I just want this over with

meanwhile AZ down to 130K

ANSC Ag said:

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What if the presser was a shot across the bow and may actually make some of the planned fraud to stop?

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Yep. If I'm trump, I'm sending lawyers and the national guard to all these places 20 minutes ago. They better be in these losers hair.

Count the votes, but no "found" ballot boxes.

YouBet said:

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This wasn't a good move by Trump.

Sh^t is about to descend into chaos now.

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Yup. He's basically instigating people going into the streets.

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outofstateaggie said:

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Did AZ shut it down for the night?

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I just saw it catch up 21K votes over a 1% reporting

Down 136K with 79% reporting

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That's a big jump...