*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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Watching a rumble with Stephanie Lambert, Michigan attorney (she's also up on sanction charges) and she is talking about how a letter went out (not sure from whom) that directed local election officials that the election servicer would be coming to "change out batteries" and that the local election officials did NOT need to be present during this "routine servicing."

But she called one of her cyber experts (former NSA cyber guy) to ask what effects, if any would changing out the batteries on the machines have? His response was that there are other functions including memory devices that are solely on the battery power so removal and replacement of them would wipe those memories from those functions.

You are my IT go-to guy here. Could that be correct?

rumble link at bottom of the page HERE
Holy cow. Hit $2 Milagro shot night so I just saw this.

I will do some digging into the Michigan machines, but what he said could be correct. Just like a PC, anything being stored in RAM would be lost unless written to internal storage first. I would think there would be a process for this prior to shutting down a system. (similar to saving changes to your spreadsheet before shutting your PC down).

If this was done during the election, why? Why wouldn't these machines all be fully serviced and ready prior to go-time. If not, you still have the issue of how would this pass certification but anyone performing an audit invalidates that machine from ever being used again.


I don't think it's about the battery at all. They are talking about a battery that would power the printer. That's a UPS kind of battery (not a coin cell for RAM or real-time clocks). They also said a clerk doesn't need to be there.

It sounds like they want access to the machines to load new code, delete some files, remove other hardware (like M2M modems), or something else that they are trying to cover up. The batteries are a red herring IMO. They are after something else.

And electronics don't need "servicing". It's not like a car with mechanical pieces that wear out.
Going back to this, if your notion that the battery in question is a UPS and not the internal battery, why would you need to replace ALL of the batteries in every county? I have handled a few UPS's in my lifetime and I can assume that these, if they are backing up just one or a small number of devices as is suggested by the data provided, they are likely not much more than a consumer grade UPS. They don't need 'maintenance' and you don't replace batteries on them. If one goes bad, you throw the whole UPS away and plug in a new one. And there certainly isn't a need to do that wholesale statewide. That's ridiculous.

Exactly right.

(And if it's powering the printer and the computer then it's a good sized battery. It's not a little AA battery or coin cell)
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Not to mention as an independent contractor wouldn't he be free to be on someone else's payroll, like say Dominion?
Only if the person negotiating the contract for Georgia was a complete idiot or himself/herself compromised.
Paper. An insane deer. Taco meat.
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Although she's required to keep the passcodes for Michigan's voting machines, MI Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson admitted in a recent interrogatory in the Antrim County case that she does not have access to the passcode (that gives access to the machines). According to Benson, only Dominion Voting machines have access to the codes, even though she's supposed to keep it in escrow and to perform regular and frequent testing. Lambert told us,"This may surprise you, but the passcode used in Antrim County, Michigan, was 1,2,3,4,5,6."

Why is Dominion Voting Machine subcontractor Election Source running our elections and did they have remote access to the machines during and after the election?
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"What the evidence shows, and what the clerks have told us is that they [Election Source] are essentially running the elections." Lambert told us, adding, "Really, it's the vendor that has all of the control" of the elections. The vendor has access to the election management system and can remotely access it. So, really, what we're finding is that the vendors that were not elected by the American people are controlling our elections." We asked, "Did they, in fact, access the machines?"Stefanie responded, "We have proof of that in Michigan. We have anonymous logins and we have proof that Election Source was accessing machines and that the election was subverted."
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Ms. Lambert dropped yet another bombshell, "There was a person by the name of Jennifer Bowers that was an executive at Dominion until 2019. She is now in charge at the EAC of determining who should be certified and which company should come out and check the election machines and certify them. So in my opinion, we essentially now have Dominion watching Dominion."
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So, if the batteries aren't necessary, why is Election Source going around to all of the city offices and changing them? According to Stefanie Lambert, changing the batteries causes them to erase all microelectronic memory in the machines. We talked to an assistant city clerk tonight in Michigan who told us Election Source came to their office yesterday and changed their battery. He also told us they ran a series of ballots through their machine while they were there to "change the battery."
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Why would they need to run ballots at all?
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_mpaul said:

aggiehawg said:

Not to mention as an independent contractor wouldn't he be free to be on someone else's payroll, like say Dominion?
Only if the person negotiating the contract for Georgia was a complete idiot or himself/herself compromised.
Raffenspreger (who entered the contract on behalf of the state) is corrupt? Say it ain't so. /sarc.
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Then there is this:

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Another thing: Democrats may appreciate what Sterling did last week, but they haven't gotten along with him in the past, and they certainly won't in the future. Within Raffensperger's office, Sterling has been the enforcer when it comes to relationships with county election offices.

While the Nov. 3 election was surprisingly smooth, his battles with election officials in Fulton and other counties in the aftermath of a chaotic June 9 primary were epic.

"I'm an operations guy. There are times in any operations where people in those positions there can be carrots and there can be sticks," Sterling said. "A lot of the counties, they didn't appreciate tough love, but they're appreciative of it now. I was the one who came up with the grant programs to defer some of these costs."
I can't find a direct source for which grants he is referring to, but it has to be either the Dominion cross-bred EAC grants or Zuckbucks I would think. In either case he is bedfellows with some questionable people.

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According to Benson, only Dominion Voting machines have access to the codes, even though she's supposed to keep it in escrow and to perform regular and frequent testing. Lambert told us,"This may surprise you, but the passcode used in Antrim County, Michigan, was 1,2,3,4,5,6."

When life imitates Spaceballs...


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aggiehawg said:

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Although she's required to keep the passcodes for Michigan's voting machines, MI Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson admitted in a recent interrogatory in the Antrim County case that she does not have access to the passcode (that gives access to the machines). According to Benson, only Dominion Voting machines have access to the codes, even though she's supposed to keep it in escrow and to perform regular and frequent testing. Lambert told us,"This may surprise you, but the passcode used in Antrim County, Michigan, was 1,2,3,4,5,6."

Why is Dominion Voting Machine subcontractor Election Source running our elections and did they have remote access to the machines during and after the election?
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"What the evidence shows, and what the clerks have told us is that they [Election Source] are essentially running the elections." Lambert told us, adding, "Really, it's the vendor that has all of the control" of the elections. The vendor has access to the election management system and can remotely access it. So, really, what we're finding is that the vendors that were not elected by the American people are controlling our elections." We asked, "Did they, in fact, access the machines?"Stefanie responded, "We have proof of that in Michigan. We have anonymous logins and we have proof that Election Source was accessing machines and that the election was subverted."
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Ms. Lambert dropped yet another bombshell, "There was a person by the name of Jennifer Bowers that was an executive at Dominion until 2019. She is now in charge at the EAC of determining who should be certified and which company should come out and check the election machines and certify them. So in my opinion, we essentially now have Dominion watching Dominion."
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So, if the batteries aren't necessary, why is Election Source going around to all of the city offices and changing them? According to Stefanie Lambert, changing the batteries causes them to erase all microelectronic memory in the machines. We talked to an assistant city clerk tonight in Michigan who told us Election Source came to their office yesterday and changed their battery. He also told us they ran a series of ballots through their machine while they were there to "change the battery."
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Why would they need to run ballots at all?

See. It's not the battery. You also wouldn't send an executive to change a battery. You would send a tech. They are doing something else to the machine. There is evidence there that scares the crap out of someone.
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I can't find a direct source for which grants he is referring to, but it has to be either the Dominion cross-bred EAC grants or Zuckbucks I would think. In either case he is bedfellows with some questionable people.
Probably Zuckbucks. They were there for the runoff too.

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If your Georgia election office has already applied for a CTCL COVID-19 Response grant, welcome back. You need to take new actions in order to receive additional grant funds.
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  • Complete a Safe Voting Plan (SVP). This should take you no longer than 1 hour. Download the SVP template, docx, 36kb.
  • Email the SVP to grants@techandciviclife.org.
  • After submitting your SVP, you'll receive an updated grant agreement via email.
  • Funds will be disbursed using the method you selected in your earlier application.
  • Your grant report will be due July 31, 2021.
  • [/ol]Georgia counties that are applying for a CTCL grant for the first time
    If this is the first time you're applying for a CTCL COVID-19 Response grant, welcome to the program. You need to submit a Safe Voting Plan and an application. In total, completing the materials will take you about 90 minutes.
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  • Complete a Safe Voting Plan (SVP). This should take you no longer than 1 hour. Download the SVP template, docx, 36kb.
  • After you complete your SVP, attach it to your grant application. Completing the application should take you about 30 minutes. To speed up your application process, collect the following beforehand:
    • Safe Voting Plan
    • Number of active registered voters in your county as of September 1, 2020
    • Number of full-time staff (or equivalent) on the election team as of September 1, 2020
    • Election office 2020 budget as of September 1, 2020
      Election office W-9
    • Local government body who needs to approve the grant funding (if any)
    • What government official or government agency the grant agreement should be addressed to
  • After submitting your application and SVP, you'll be verified by the CTCL team.
  • Once you're verified, you'll receive a grant agreement via email. Be sure to add grants@techandciviclife.org to your email contacts so initial grant correspondence makes it to your inbox.
  • You need to sign and return the grant agreement.
  • Next, you'll be asked for disbursement information. The disbursement process takes 2-3 days.
  • Finally, your grant report will be due July 31, 2021.
  • [/ol]Questions about the CTCL COVID-19 Response Grant application process, timeline, eligible expenses, or reporting? Please email us at help@techandciviclife.org.
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    ETA: Appears CTCL doled out 45 million within the state of Georgia for the November elections.

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    FriscoKid said:

    aggiehawg said:

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    See. It's not the battery. You also wouldn't send an executive to change a battery. You would send a tech. They are doing something else to the machine. There is evidence there that scares the crap out of someone.


    As many cameras that are in government offices nowadays, has anyone requested copies of that video footage to see exactly who the person was that took this action? I understand that they could have forged their credentials, but there should be pretty clear pictures of the person that took this action.
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    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.

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    Sounds like a "go pound sand" letter is the appropriate response to that. What business does the US Congress have interfering in the conduct of elections in the state of Arizona?
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    txags92 said:

    Sounds like a "go pound sand" letter is the appropriate response to that.

    They already sent one. Correct response is a "go **** yourself" letter now.
    will25u
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    At least the third recount of ballots starting today. Using different machines to just count the ballots(not the actual votes).

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    So they believe their hand count is 100% accurate. Hopefully the third party hardware count matches the hand recount and the count that is wrong is the one from the state and dominion.

    Would be some pretty convincing evidence and I bet they get it.

    Also hard to dispute that the hand recount wasn't accurate when it matches the machine count from another vendor.
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    aggiehawg said:

    In case this is getting too confusing one thing now stands out, the election day count was very, very wrong. That is not the starting point here. Between the same batches being scanned multiple times but the images are not even backing up the election day count. That means the ballots were using the QR codes to register the votes for the scanners to read, doesn't it? And not the actual bubbles?

    That implicates Dominion machines, right?
    Belay the above transmission. Forgot we are talking absentee ballots and only absentee ballots. There would be no QR code on them since they are not being generated by a BMD.

    Brain fart on my part.
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    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Wait! This is one of the requests in the letter. Communications regarding:

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    e. the involvement of current or former members of the Central Intelligence Agency in disinformation around election fraud;
    The CIA? WTH?
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    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Any lawyers want to explain what recourse the Arizona auditors, cyber ninjas, and the Arizona state legislators have?
    File injunction in federal court to stop the House Committee investigation, no standing.
    Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
    Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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    aggiehawg said:

    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Wait! This is one of the requests in the letter. Communications regarding:

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    e. the involvement of current or former members of the Central Intelligence Agency in disinformation around election fraud;
    The CIA? WTH?
    What are the chances that someone on the audit team may have been formerly in the CIA? There must be some reason they are trying to make a linkage.
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    richardag said:

    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Any lawyers want to explain what recourse the Arizona auditors, cyber ninjas, and the Arizona state legislators have?
    File injunction in federal court to stop the House Committee investigation, no standing.
    Well this is coming from two separate committees. Maloney's may not have oversight but Raskind chairs the civil rights committee. He signed the letter as well.

    But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'm fairly sure they knew their communications would be demanded by someone at sometime so they have cached them into a database that got updated on a daily basis. So producing much of that stuff might be as simple as hitting "Print" or "Send."

    But Maloney has to be careful here. She was all about election integrity until November 3, 2020. Her letters of inquiry, including directly to Dominion and Sequoia before Dominion acquired them are public records.
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    American Hardwood said:

    aggiehawg said:

    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Wait! This is one of the requests in the letter. Communications regarding:

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    e. the involvement of current or former members of the Central Intelligence Agency in disinformation around election fraud;
    The CIA? WTH?
    What are the chances that someone on the audit team may have been formerly in the CIA? There must be some reason they are trying to make a linkage.
    Ben Cotton of Cyfir worked in the government but I don't think it was CIA. Thought it was either NSA or at DOD.
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    richardag said:

    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Any lawyers want to explain what recourse the Arizona auditors, cyber ninjas, and the Arizona state legislators have?
    No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
    Ad Lunam
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    aggiehawg said:

    richardag said:

    will25u said:

    Here we go again...

    US House Committee on Oversight and Reform is launching an investigation into the Arizona Audit.


    Any lawyers want to explain what recourse the Arizona auditors, cyber ninjas, and the Arizona state legislators have?
    File injunction in federal court to stop the House Committee investigation, no standing.
    Well this is coming from two separate committees. Maloney's may not have oversight but Raskind chairs the civil rights committee. He signed the letter as well.

    But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'm fairly sure they knew their communications would be demanded by someone at sometime so they have cached them into a database that got updated on a daily basis. So producing much of that stuff might be as simple as hitting "Print" or "Send."

    But Maloney has to be careful here. She was all about election integrity until November 3, 2020. Her letters of inquiry, including directly to Dominion and Sequoia before Dominion acquired them are public records.
    Thank you for the response.

    So the auditors and the Arizona legislators couldn't/shouldn't file for an injunction or something barring this House committee investigation?
    Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
    Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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    So the auditors and the Arizona legislators couldn't/shouldn't file for an injunction or something barring this House committee investigation?
    They could but it would be a PR nightmare. Not worth fighting it in my view. That is not say they have to hold back the snark though. Point out their supreme hypocrisy at every turn.

    ETA: Thought about something else. I don't know what their contract with state Senate says. There may be something in that agreement that gives the state Senate some sort of say in what gets released and doesn't get released and when. So, this might be a call for Senator Fann.
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    aggiehawg said:

    Look at the handwriting. Seem similar to you?










    What's interesting to me about these images is that they aren't complete documents. That is, the bottom portion where I'd bet there's a signature isn't there. Who signed these, and what is his background?
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    What's interesting to me about these images is that they aren't complete documents. That is, the bottom portion where I'd bet there's a signature isn't there. Who signed these, and what is his background?
    Redacted by the Sec of State. He knows the names but no one else does. Wait. Fulton County officials probably know, too.
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    Disappointed in Tucker. Needed Garland or David Cross on air.
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    aggiehawg said:

    Disappointed in Tucker. Needed Garland or David Cross on air.


    How did those issues survive all of the audits? A woman seemed to send the same batch of ballots through the counter many times. Wouldn't the audits catch that?
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    The audit just counted the number of ballots, not the number that voted for Trump or Biden.
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    VegasAg86 said:

    aggiehawg said:

    Disappointed in Tucker. Needed Garland or David Cross on air.


    How did those issues survive all of the audits? A woman seemed to send the same batch of ballots through the counter many times. Wouldn't the audits catch that?
    The inventor of RLA testified in the Curling case that RLA would not work nor be verifiable given the configuration of the Dominion Voting System. That case was in Georgia pre-election. Phillip Stark has not changed that assessment.

    That testimony has been posted dozens of times by me. RLA means nothing.
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    Links to the meeting tomorrow for the AZ Senate.

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    will25u said:



    They are over the target.
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    will25u said:


    This is the biggest load of BS tweet I think I have ever read. Since when is there an order of operations for counting???
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