17 intelligence agencies; I mean 50 former intelligence officials

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Tex100
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Patriot101 said:

Supposedly Japan was buying up American scrap metal and engines in the early 1930's and our intelligence had no idea that Japan was preparing for war.


. They absolutely were.
gig em 02
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No no it's impossible for millionaires to fly home! What kind of idiot believes a man with millions of dollars can fly home??
Tex100
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I think Hunter the meth addict thought they sit there Hidden forever or he could pick them up after the election.
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Those ****s had way too much unchecked power to be so politically driven.
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gig em 02 said:

No no it's impossible for millionaires to fly home! What kind of idiot believes a man with millions of dollars can fly home??


Or pay for a driver.
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Jmiller said:

91AggieLawyer said:

In order for this to be true:

1. The computer shop guy has to be a Russian asset (VERY unlikely)
2. The computer itself has to be either bogus or a plant (already verified with Hunter's signature on drop off receipt)
3. The emails have to be fabricated (verified by those who sent/received them)
4. The pics can't be of Hunter (obviously they are) or are doctored (they aren't)
5. All of Joe, the campaign, and Hunter would have denied all of this (they haven't)
6. Rational, alternative explanations would abound -- e.g. alibis (none forthcoming; just silence)
7. Media wouldn't be running interference but would get actual evidence

Yeah, that last one is a stretch. But you get the idea.


Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who can't identify hunter by his appearance and charges the insanely low price of $85.

He gets off the plane and drives his cracked up self to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's private emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth that has had meetings with Russian intelligence agents and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests. A tabloid ends up being the only one willing to publish but the writer wouldn't sign his own work.

Do I have it right? Got him?
Wouldn't it have been easier to just paste the Twitter feed you copied than type the whole thing out?






There's a lot of terrible assumptions in that tweet (and your copy & paste), but the biggest is that because Hunter lives in LA, there's no way his computer could end up in a repair store in Delaware. Did you know the Mac Shop is less than 5 miles from Hunter Biden's FATHER'S HOUSE?!? So there's not chance that while visiting his family he decided to drop off a busted computer? Google Map

To the "insanely low price of $85", that was probably the fee charged to take a look and determine the scope of work. Kinda like when an A/C guy comes out and charges you $95 to check the equipment. Remember, the owner of the laptop never returned any calls or contacted them again. So he didn't do anything with it and just charged the service fee.

Regarding the "totally normal step of copying them"...you've obviously never done any sort of computer repair. The first thing you do is take a full backup of the hard drive. That way, you can restore the data a later point in time. Now even if the computer isn't working, you can remove the hard drive from the machine and plug it into a sled directly and it works just like a USB device. So yes...this is a totally normal thing to do. And yes, I would for sure keep a copy of that data until the computer has been returned to the owner. And probably for another 30-60 days in case they come back and say "I'm missing this whatever file". You can reach into the backup and verify.

I love this part: "The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests." Pretty sure Rudy is just following the lead of the NYT. How many other media outlets have been able to independently verify Trump's tax returns?
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Jmiller said:

91AggieLawyer said:

In order for this to be true:

1. The computer shop guy has to be a Russian asset (VERY unlikely)
2. The computer itself has to be either bogus or a plant (already verified with Hunter's signature on drop off receipt)
3. The emails have to be fabricated (verified by those who sent/received them)
4. The pics can't be of Hunter (obviously they are) or are doctored (they aren't)
5. All of Joe, the campaign, and Hunter would have denied all of this (they haven't)
6. Rational, alternative explanations would abound -- e.g. alibis (none forthcoming; just silence)
7. Media wouldn't be running interference but would get actual evidence

Yeah, that last one is a stretch. But you get the idea.


Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who can't identify hunter by his appearance and charges the insanely low price of $85.

He gets off the plane and drives his cracked up self to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's private emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth that has had meetings with Russian intelligence agents and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests. A tabloid ends up being the only one willing to publish but the writer wouldn't sign his own work.

Do I have it right? Got him?
We MUST get to the bottom of this incredible elaborate Russian interference. So first we need to bring Hunter Biden and his associates to an open hearing in Congress to testify under oath concerning the laptop, external hard drive and their contents. Have a valid explanation about how the pictures and video got onto the laptop and/or external hard drive.

Also, require the testimony from Hunter's incarcerated business associate Devon Archer regarding all communication and financial records between Devon Archer, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and all other associates. Surely Devon is part of this intricate well executed Russian spy operation.

Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Ellis Wyatt
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I believe this is a Russian bot.
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Quote from Dan Sloan,"The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them"

Dear Dan Sloan/jmiller,

On every of the first things you do when attempting to repair a computer and or external hard drive is attempt to make a disc image in case attempting repairs damage the hard drives.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Fat Black Swan
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Wow. Who'd have thought? Jmiller with the ShareBlue copypasta.
HumpitPuryear
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LOL so JMiller is an unintelligent plagiarizer just like Joe Biden? SHOCKING!
texsn95
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Hahaha, what a loser!
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17 intelligence agencies; I mean 50 former intelligence officials
Our 17 are not half as effective and competent as the single Russian one, FSB. They are too busy trying to serve one party's agenda, and not the national interest.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
FJB
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Who is John Galt?

2026
GMaster0
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No this not true because we only believe things that support our narrative of life and how we know it.
TravelAg2004
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GMaster0 said:

No this not true because we only believe things that support our narrative of life and how we know it.
Did you read the letter? No where in it did they offer any actual evidence of this being Russian disinformation other than "trust us...we know what we are talking about."

Here's the letter: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

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We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.

If we are right, this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.
Or this part
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Our view that the Russians are involved in the Hunter Biden email issue is consistent with two
other significant data points as well. According to the Washington Post, citing four sources,
"U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of an
influence operation by Russian intelligence."

In addition, media reports say that the FBI has now opened an investigation into Russian
involvement in this case. According to USA Today, "federal authorities are investigating
whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giulianiis part of a smoke bomb
of disinformation pushed by Russia."

We do not know whether these press reports are accurate, but they do suggest concern within
Executive Branch departments and agencies that mirrors ours. It is high time that Russia stops
interfering in our democracy.
Their entire assessment is based on media reports. These "experts" have no first hand knowledge of the information they are talking about. At this point, their opinion is no better than any of the pundits on CNN or Fox.

They can't even cite past examples where this has happened except for the supposed Russian interference in 2016 which has been shown to be 100% originated from the Hillary/DNC campaign.

I'm willing to accept this is all 100% BS and manufactured...but offer some actual evidence proving it. Find someone who was in the administration at the time saying none of this happened. That's what is concerning to me...they aren't doing that. They are instead attacking the messenger.
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TravelAg2004 said:

Jmiller said:

91AggieLawyer said:

In order for this to be true:

1. The computer shop guy has to be a Russian asset (VERY unlikely)
2. The computer itself has to be either bogus or a plant (already verified with Hunter's signature on drop off receipt)
3. The emails have to be fabricated (verified by those who sent/received them)
4. The pics can't be of Hunter (obviously they are) or are doctored (they aren't)
5. All of Joe, the campaign, and Hunter would have denied all of this (they haven't)
6. Rational, alternative explanations would abound -- e.g. alibis (none forthcoming; just silence)
7. Media wouldn't be running interference but would get actual evidence

Yeah, that last one is a stretch. But you get the idea.


Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who can't identify hunter by his appearance and charges the insanely low price of $85.

He gets off the plane and drives his cracked up self to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's private emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth that has had meetings with Russian intelligence agents and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests. A tabloid ends up being the only one willing to publish but the writer wouldn't sign his own work.

Do I have it right? Got him?
Wouldn't it have been easier to just paste the Twitter feed you copied than type the whole thing out?






There's a lot of terrible assumptions in that tweet (and your copy & paste), but the biggest is that because Hunter lives in LA, there's no way his computer could end up in a repair store in Delaware. Did you know the Mac Shop is less than 5 miles from Hunter Biden's FATHER'S HOUSE?!? So there's not chance that while visiting his family he decided to drop off a busted computer? Google Map

To the "insanely low price of $85", that was probably the fee charged to take a look and determine the scope of work. Kinda like when an A/C guy comes out and charges you $95 to check the equipment. Remember, the owner of the laptop never returned any calls or contacted them again. So he didn't do anything with it and just charged the service fee.

Regarding the "totally normal step of copying them"...you've obviously never done any sort of computer repair. The first thing you do is take a full backup of the hard drive. That way, you can restore the data a later point in time. Now even if the computer isn't working, you can remove the hard drive from the machine and plug it into a sled directly and it works just like a USB device. So yes...this is a totally normal thing to do. And yes, I would for sure keep a copy of that data until the computer has been returned to the owner. And probably for another 30-60 days in case they come back and say "I'm missing this whatever file". You can reach into the backup and verify.

I love this part: "The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests." Pretty sure Rudy is just following the lead of the NYT. How many other media outlets have been able to independently verify Trump's tax returns?
Haha Well done TravelAg2004. Boom.

“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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In addition, media reports say that the FBI has now opened an investigation into Russian
involvement in this case. According to USA Today, "federal authorities are investigating
whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giulianiis part of a smoke bomb
of disinformation pushed by Russia."

We do not know whether these press reports are accurate, but they do suggest concern within
Executive Branch departments and agencies that mirrors ours. It is high time that Russia stops
interfering in our democracy.
What a ridiculous statement. The FBI obtained the laptop via subpoena in December 2019.

Guiliani received his copy in late September 2020. There's no reason for the FBI to investigate Rudy since they already had the same information.

Insane.
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Que Te Gusta Mas said:

say exactly what every slap d!ck on TexAgs has been predicting they would say.




Te Gusta Mas - You do realize Hunter's attorney called the repair shop and asked for the laptop to be returned, don't you? Couple of basic questions for you:

1) If the laptop was a Russian plant, why would Hunter's attorney ask the repair shop to return it?
2) Even more fundamental: If the laptop was a Russian plant, how would Hunter's attorney even know to ask the repair shop to return it?
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HumpitPuryear said:

The whole concept of Russia preferring Trump as President vs Biden is just completely silly. That by itself is a major tell that these very important and somber deep-staters are on the take. Trump has been no friend to Russia. He has strengthened NATO by forcing it's members to increase their funding. He's interfered in the Russian gas pipeline to Germany. He's made America energy independent which has hurt Russia energy sector, and our aid to Ukraine includes actual defensive military weaponry that was never provided under Obama. The idea that big bad Joe Biden is going to be tough on Russia is BS. There will be a big sign that says "For Sale" in Russian in front of the White House if he wins.
I was with you until your last sentence. There will not be "For Sale" sign in Russian in front of the White House if Biden wins.

It will Be a SOLD sign.

And it will be in Chinese.
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The point I was making was that the average person who follows this stuff can predict the narrative that will be scripted by the left, their media lackeys, and their bureaucrats.

You can bet Biden will repeat the "50 former intelligence officials" yarn every time Trump brings up the laptop in the debate.
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Que Te Gusta Mas said:

The point I was making was that the average person who follows this stuff can predict the narrative that will be scripted by the left, their media lackeys, and their bureaucrats.

You can bet Biden will repeat the "50 former intelligence officials" yarn every time Trump brings up the laptop in the debate.
To which Trump should respond, "The same 50 intelligence (use air quotes) "experts' that couldn't figure out Hillary and the DNC paid for the Steele Dossier after three years of investigation? Those idiots? So is that a denial, Joe? That wasn't Hunter Biden's laptop and those weren't his emails? Is that what you are swearing to the American people right this minute?"
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GMaster0 said:

No this not true because we only believe things that support our narrative of life and how we know it.
This is not true because those 50 people do not have a thimble-full of integrity between them.
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aggiehawg said:

Que Te Gusta Mas said:

The point I was making was that the average person who follows this stuff can predict the narrative that will be scripted by the left, their media lackeys, and their bureaucrats.

You can bet Biden will repeat the "50 former intelligence officials" yarn every time Trump brings up the laptop in the debate.
To which Trump should respond, "The same 50 intelligence (use air quotes) "experts' that couldn't figure out Hillary and the DNC paid for the Steele Dossier after three years of investigation? Those idiots? So is that a denial, Joe? That wasn't Hunter Biden's laptop and those weren't his emails? Is that what you are swearing to the American people right this minute?"


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I do not believe that the laptop is Russian disinformation. Plausibly compromat the bears were using to leverage Hunter, but probably not even that.

That said, I think Putin wanted Trump to win and wants him to be reelected. That also said, Trump is too smart to allow someone like Putin to leverage him.

What are Putin's goals?

Short-term, America and globalists quit messing with satellite countries. No more color revolutions. America gtfo out of Syria and let Putin run it. Putin wants to build Eurasia as his sphere of influence.

Medium-term, avoid becoming China's pawn. Become non-aligned and bait the Americans and Chinese into conflict. Take control of the petroleum industry, dictate to Europe, leverage China.

Long-term, conquer Europe and use their economies to become something like the "Eurasia" in Orwell's 1984. Be remembered as the restorer of Russian Greatness, ala Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, and Stalin.


Trump ran on a campaign of disengagement from Europe and the middle east. Trump promised to confront China. Trump promised to annihilate ISIS, which would (and did) put Putin's Shia proxies in control.

Putin probably does not love NATO being made to spend marginally more or on defense. Fact of the matter is that only a few small countries have the will to fight. Russia would steamroll them if the US ever disengaged. Even during the cold war, the plan was to fight a delaying action. We never expected to hold continental europe for more than a few months without nukes.

The Europeans are gutless utopian rats (see the Calhoun rat utopia experiment if you dont understand). Putin will roll them if we ever get into an asian landwar.
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Jmiller said:

91AggieLawyer said:

In order for this to be true:

1. The computer shop guy has to be a Russian asset (VERY unlikely)
2. The computer itself has to be either bogus or a plant (already verified with Hunter's signature on drop off receipt)
3. The emails have to be fabricated (verified by those who sent/received them)
4. The pics can't be of Hunter (obviously they are) or are doctored (they aren't)
5. All of Joe, the campaign, and Hunter would have denied all of this (they haven't)
6. Rational, alternative explanations would abound -- e.g. alibis (none forthcoming; just silence)
7. Media wouldn't be running interference but would get actual evidence

Yeah, that last one is a stretch. But you get the idea.


Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who can't identify hunter by his appearance and charges the insanely low price of $85.

He gets off the plane and drives his cracked up self to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's private emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth that has had meetings with Russian intelligence agents and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests. A tabloid ends up being the only one willing to publish but the writer wouldn't sign his own work.

Do I have it right? Got him?
No, you don't have any of it right. There was no one in the media who wanted to touch this or "independently" verify anything. Who specifically asked? When? A reporter got shouted down just for bringing up the word FBI when Joe was at the ice cream shop yesterday. They asked the guy what flavor of ice cream he got. Are you freakin' kidding me? There's no one in the so-called mainstream media (of which the Post is, by the way; I don't think you know what Tabloid actually means) other than the Post that would actually touch this. NO ONE. Its all Russia, Russia, Russia. All without the slightest bit of evidence or sanity for that matter. Its all stupid. They don't even read the Post article -- did you? If you did, you wouldn't have written this laughable response.

I don't know what sophomoric site you're getting your lies from, but you need to check your so-called research more closely. Hunter has been traveling around quite a bit, and the laptop(s) don't belong to him specifically, but to the foundation in the name of his brother. You didn't mention that because you don't know a damn thing about this. Hunter spent a great deal of time last year dodging a subpoena from an Arkansas (I think) court over paternity issues. So where he "lives" is a matter of who's looking for him or who he needs to hide from. I haven't found any information that suggest he owns the property in California that he lives in, so it isn't like he's tied there, and the terms of the alleged lease could be day to day or month to month. So yeah, he could leave LA one day and be on the east coast the same day and drop off a computer. You act like this couldn't have happened unless he specifically went to the East coast for a computer repair, dismissing the likely event that he was there anyway and dropped them off (probably in a cocaine induced rip).

As far as RG's credibility? Come on. Compared to anyone on the left, I'll take that and give you some serious points. In terms of him holding on to it, for one thing, this isn't confirmed. Do you have any actual EVIDENCE of this? Neither your assertion nor anyone's on the left is evidence. Sorry, you're all liars. For another, the shop owner turned this over to the FBI. If true, maybe RG was hoping the FBI would actually do their job (if you want to criticize him for that moment of insanity, be my guest). Finally, there's nothing that makes a piece of evidence inherently not credible simply by holding on to it for ANY length of time. Just because the left if pissed that they were the victim of what appears to be an October surprise instead of the ones behind one, and the fact that this one is actually TRUE (unlike the one's they perpetrate) is not a reason to dismiss sound claims.

Hunter knew all this stuff -- he knew the laptop was at the repair place; he knew what was on it; he knew what the emails said; he knew what he did with respect to the Ukraine; Joe knew what he had done there. The dnc should have vetted this idiot way more closely but didn't. Now, you're stuck with him and that's YOUR problem. Don't get mad when the FACTS come out. The party of liars like Anita Hill and Christine Ford doesn't like the truth.

Oh, and "blind?" Hunters signature (compared against other known ones) is on the receipt. Sorry, you lose.
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Maybe but none of this really makes a case on why Biden would be a threat to Russian designs. A Biden white house does not mean any significant barriers to Russia. Hell most of the new Democratic party wants socialism and to divert money from defense to domestic progressive feel good projects. The combination of reduced defense spending and destroying our O&G industry would be giant gift-wrapped presents to Putin.

Plus, I think you ignore the threat that China is to Russia. The belt and road project is going to run head-on into Russian interests all over the place and Russia really doesn't have the financial muscle to meet that threat. A Trump win means a weaker China. A Biden win means a stronger China and I think China is at least as big a threat to Russian asperations as the US is.

At a minimum there's no significant advantage to Russia either way. I can see them spending resources on some mis-information campaigns via Twitter and FB and such but these emails, photos, laptops and hard drives, the computer repair guy, etc suggests a huge espionage program that is fraught with danger of being caught red-handed. I don't believe the juice is worth the squeeze for the Russians.
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Maybe but none of this really makes a case on why Biden would be a threat to Russian designs...The belt and road project is going to run head-on into Russian interests all over the place and Russia really doesn't have the financial muscle to meet that threat. A Trump win means a weaker China. A Biden win means a stronger China and I think China is at least as big a threat to Russian aspirations as the US is....I don't believe the juice is worth the squeeze for the Russians.

I was only making the case that Putin prefers Trump. Nobody said the juice was worth the squeeze.

Biden would let the CIA go back to fomenting color revolutions in Eurasia and doing whatever the hell else it wants. Biden would probably never draw down from the middle east b/c doing so would piss off the war profiteers who are backing him.

Putin must get control of his sphere of influence before anything else. Then, he must get enough control of the middle east to control the oil. Control the oil and he finally has leverage over China's superior economy and population. Oil = control over Europe.

Belt-n-Road is an eventual problem for Putin. He defeats it by getting control of Eurasia. He doesnt need an economy to do that. He needs obedient client states.

IF(when) Trump triggers a Chinese depression, that is a boon. Putin counts on Trump for nothing.

The globalists hate Russia and Putin and see him as a big threat to their goal of one world government run by the corporations. Putin wants to solidify Russia is the 3rd major nation state to balance out Oceania against East Asia. Putin and Trump are the types of nationalists the Globalists must squash (or hopefully die trying).
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I've always been of the opinion that Putin really doesn't have a dog in the hunt as to who wins. He doesn't have a "favorite" candidate.

Putin's objective in 2016, and today, is to sow discord within the U.S., and create internal division and chaos. As long as we as a country are looking and fighting inward, anything Russia is doing is a distant echo.

We've provided this to him in spades.
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Choosing to ignore very obvious corruption of politicians for partisan reasons is one of the primary reasons our country is ****ed.

You wonder how we got Trump? This **** right here. This is how.
Matt Hooper
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The Biden water carriers continue to attack the logistics around the computer hard drives, not the specifics of the of the hard drive content.

The best effort to address the content is the sophomoric Russian election interference narrative. An entire hard drive, with specific pictures and traceable emails were fabricated?

If the Russians or others were that good, how was the Steele Dossier such garbage?
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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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Maybe but none of this really makes a case on why Biden would be a threat to Russian designs...The belt and road project is going to run head-on into Russian interests all over the place and Russia really doesn't have the financial muscle to meet that threat. A Trump win means a weaker China. A Biden win means a stronger China and I think China is at least as big a threat to Russian aspirations as the US is....I don't believe the juice is worth the squeeze for the Russians.

I was only making the case that Putin prefers Trump. Nobody said the juice was worth the squeeze.

Biden would let the CIA go back to fomenting color revolutions in Eurasia and doing whatever the hell else it wants. Biden would probably never draw down from the middle east b/c doing so would piss off the war profiteers who are backing him.

Putin must get control of his sphere of influence before anything else. Then, he must get enough control of the middle east to control the oil. Control the oil and he finally has leverage over China's superior economy and population. Oil = control over Europe.

Belt-n-Road is an eventual problem for Putin. He defeats it by getting control of Eurasia. He doesnt need an economy to do that. He needs obedient client states.

IF(when) Trump triggers a Chinese depression, that is a boon. Putin counts on Trump for nothing.

The globalists hate Russia and Putin and see him as a big threat to their goal of one world government run by the corporations. Putin wants to solidify Russia is the 3rd major nation state to balance out Oceania against East Asia. Putin and Trump are the types of nationalists the Globalists must squash (or hopefully die trying).
I still think Putin would prefer these people be in charge...

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/defund-police-pentagon/

https://fox4kc.com/news/missouri-democratic-house-candidate-cori-bush-tweets-about-defunding-pentagon/

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CSTXAg92 said:

Que Te Gusta Mas said:

say exactly what every slap d!ck on TexAgs has been predicting they would say.




Te Gusta Mas - You do realize Hunter's attorney called the repair shop and asked for the laptop to be returned, don't you? Couple of basic questions for you:

1) If the laptop was a Russian plant, why would Hunter's attorney ask the repair shop to return it?
2) Even more fundamental: If the laptop was a Russian plant, how would Hunter's attorney even know to ask the repair shop to return it?

You'll never get an answer from the lefties on here because there is no logical reason why they'd do those things unless the laptop was authentic.
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Jmiller said:

91AggieLawyer said:

In order for this to be true:

1. The computer shop guy has to be a Russian asset (VERY unlikely)
2. The computer itself has to be either bogus or a plant (already verified with Hunter's signature on drop off receipt)
3. The emails have to be fabricated (verified by those who sent/received them)
4. The pics can't be of Hunter (obviously they are) or are doctored (they aren't)
5. All of Joe, the campaign, and Hunter would have denied all of this (they haven't)
6. Rational, alternative explanations would abound -- e.g. alibis (none forthcoming; just silence)
7. Media wouldn't be running interference but would get actual evidence

Yeah, that last one is a stretch. But you get the idea.


Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who can't identify hunter by his appearance and charges the insanely low price of $85.

He gets off the plane and drives his cracked up self to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's private emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth that has had meetings with Russian intelligence agents and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests. A tabloid ends up being the only one willing to publish but the writer wouldn't sign his own work.

Do I have it right? Got him?


Why did Biden's lawyer ask for the laptop back if it wasn't his?
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SupaManu said:




This should be shown every single time one of these "former" idiots speak.
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