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Cowboy bob said:

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I'll take things that didn't happen for $1,000, Alex

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Exactly this is the FBI trying to push the white supremist and far right militia angle to counter the actual active left wing "anarchist". What's funny is the ANTIFA nuts and BLM nuts are for over reaching and over bearing government control. This dude at least knows the definition of anarchy which is no goverment complete anarchy. That's honestly considered the ultimate Far Right philosophy. He's at least being branded correctly as an anarchist he's against over reaching, over bearing government control and is discussing creating anarchy in hopes of establishing a more reasonable governing entity. He is exercising his free speech and being honest.

The Antifa and BLM FAR LEFT WING nuts are doing what the left does best, lying calling themselves one thing while being the other. They're the opposite of Lesser government proponents or no government proponents of Anarchy. They're in fact proponents of over bearing and over reaching government. They want to over throw the government we have now and replace it with hard socialism or communism. They're marxist and tacist. They are the Left they lie about everything and even to themselves about who they truly are.

I'm also sick and tired of hearing that most of the FBI is made up of good folks with some bad actors at the top. I call BS, they're just another arm of the left


The FBI is not looking out for all of us, they've clearly chosen a side and it is not the side of equal justice under the current laws of our land as outlined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The sorry truth of the matter is the FBI is lost to us they are Leftist working to take more control byway of working with and, aiding and abetting the Left to over throw our Republic and install a more controlling form of government where WE THE PEOPLE have no true control of representation. If this were not true then they would clearly be jailing the actual bad actors taking actions on their words of overthrowing the government byway of their actual anarchist action of being in the streets burning police, and government facilities looting and rioting etc...

Where are the arrest and undercover operation arrests on that side of the equation FBI ? We're waiting but not anticipating any because you are in on it, not merely complicit but; clearing acting and operating for one side that is against the premise of our current form of government For The People and By The People with equal justice under the law for all.

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The FBI has FINALLY arrested numerous Antifa related individuals recently. You should probably pay more attention to current events before forming opinions. Trust me I do and that's why I have the opinion of the FBI that I have.

It's sad that we have people on this site that are more willing to believe ridiculous conspiracy theories than they are willing to believe that a small group of anti-government individuals might want to commit violence against a democratic governor. It's not like this is the first example of anti-government violence committed or planned by groups like this. Your Sad, good you should be, with the take you have and the inability and lack of seeing the big picture you should be really sad because it's making the other side mad and "real sad" is coming for all so keep pushing Leftist.

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See bold remarks above and.this final remark.

Hey FBI where was all this dogged under cover work to stop it before it happened with Antifa ? Antifa has been operating for quite some time why weren't they THWARTED ! I could go one but it's no use in dealing with folks that can't see the forest for the trees and really have no desire to. Current events and all that yeah right ! How laughable.

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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government,

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For anyone who uses this as an excuse for armed revolt, I offer a counterpoint.

The American colonists had pretty limited options in changing the government that ruled them (yes, ruled, considering that while England had a parliament as well as a King, the colonies didn't have much say in it) while our Constitution empowers us with a non-violent, civilized method to change government; Federal, State, and Local. It's called "The Vote".

The Constitution was, is, and will be, with the occasional need of a clarifying Amendment, a fabulous, enlightened document.

SirLurksALot said:

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MASAXET said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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The people on this thread trying to downplay or make excuses for a plot to kidnap a governor are no different than the people that try to downplay or excuse the actions of Antifa.

It's ok to condemn bad behavior even if it's committed by a group that is on your "ideological side".

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Timing seems pretty convenient.

This would be like Durham arresting people today related to his investigation. Anyone would eye that with some sense of skepticism.

For the record, if these guys actually had a well laid out plan, including a rough date for the execution of such plan, they should probably all go to jail. Not OK to try and kidnap any political leader.

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The timing is not just "convenient" considering the defendants had allegedly surveilled Whitmers home on multiple occasions and planned on taking action before the election

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Clearly the FBI should've waited until after the kidnapping attempt so the timing would be better. Although I'm not sure who for.

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Like I said, this board reacted to this news exactly as expected

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Yep some are unable to see past the lense of their own partisanship.

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The irony is thick!

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SirLurksALot said:

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MASAXET said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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MASAXET said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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The people on this thread trying to downplay or make excuses for a plot to kidnap a governor are no different than the people that try to downplay or excuse the actions of Antifa.

It's ok to condemn bad behavior even if it's committed by a group that is on your "ideological side".

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Timing seems pretty convenient.

This would be like Durham arresting people today related to his investigation. Anyone would eye that with some sense of skepticism.

For the record, if these guys actually had a well laid out plan, including a rough date for the execution of such plan, they should probably all go to jail. Not OK to try and kidnap any political leader.

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The timing is not just "convenient" considering the defendants had allegedly surveilled Whitmers home on multiple occasions and planned on taking action before the election

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Clearly the FBI should've waited until after the kidnapping attempt so the timing would be better. Although I'm not sure who for.

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Like I said, this board reacted to this news exactly as expected

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Yep some are unable to see past the lense of their own partisanship.

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Then take off the blue tinted glasses and take the blue pill, you will be amazed.

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Guess again. I'm voting for Trump. I'm just able to look at things objectively.

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No you're not, you're only able to look at it through your lens, whatever that might be. That's basic psychology.

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So far the highlight of the whole thing is the freak show sign interpreter with a wrist tattoo standing behind governor crazy eyes as she delivers her tirade (aka "response.")

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WTF is up with those facial expressions?

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You know that Austin Powers meme? It seems to apply here.

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Huh...

FBI thwarts militia plot to kidnap, assassinate Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

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The investigation was sparked by social media posts bragging of plans to violently overthrow several state governments as well as law enforcement

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Anyone really serious about over throwing a government doesn't post about it on social media.

Tree is thirsty

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For the record:

I don't believe it at all.

We sit and watch antifa every night and the fbi does nothing. I don't believe this at all.

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Do not either.

And what is the real kicker is, can see Michigan on a larger scale actually rising up against her tyranny if it continues past the election. So its hard to get worked up about as some kind of inexplicable sentiment.

And right on cue, Biden links these guys to Charlottesville and to Trump.

Propaganda. Disgusting by biden and anyone who supports him.

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And right on cue, Biden links these guys to Charlottesville and to Trump.

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Yep, and so did ABC News with David Muir, flashing Trump's "Liberate Michigan" tweet from a few months ago. I imagine CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, etc are all doing the same.

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coconutED said:

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Huh...

FBI thwarts militia plot to kidnap, assassinate Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

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The investigation was sparked by social media posts bragging of plans to violently overthrow several state governments as well as law enforcement

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Anyone really serious about over throwing a government doesn't post about it on social media.

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Username checks out.

skeptical of this being a right wing militia. funny take--not enough molle gear or chest rigs.

It will be interesting if this is an anarchist or left leaning militia.

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SirLurksALot said:

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DC79er said:

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Cowboy bob said:

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I'll take things that didn't happen for $1,000, Alex

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Exactly this is the FBI trying to push the white supremist and far right militia angle to counter the actual active left wing "anarchist". What's funny is the ANTIFA nuts and BLM nuts are for over reaching and over bearing government control. This dude at least knows the definition of anarchy which is no goverment complete anarchy. That's honestly considered the ultimate Far Right philosophy. He's at least being branded correctly as an anarchist he's against over reaching, over bearing government control and is discussing creating anarchy in hopes of establishing a more reasonable governing entity. He is exercising his free speech and being honest.

The Antifa and BLM FAR LEFT WING nuts are doing what the left does best, lying calling themselves one thing while being the other. They're the opposite of Lesser government proponents or no government proponents of Anarchy. They're in fact proponents of over bearing and over reaching government. They want to over throw the government we have now and replace it with hard socialism or communism. They're marxist and tacist. They are the Left they lie about everything and even to themselves about who they truly are.

I'm also sick and tired of hearing that most of the FBI is made up of good folks with some bad actors at the top. I call BS, they're just another arm of the left


The FBI is not looking out for all of us, they've clearly chosen a side and it is not the side of equal justice under the current laws of our land as outlined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The sorry truth of the matter is the FBI is lost to us they are Leftist working to take more control byway of working with and, aiding and abetting the Left to over throw our Republic and install a more controlling form of government where WE THE PEOPLE have no true control of representation. If this were not true then they would clearly be jailing the actual bad actors taking actions on their words of overthrowing the government byway of their actual anarchist action of being in the streets burning police, and government facilities looting and rioting etc...

Where are the arrest and undercover operation arrests on that side of the equation FBI ? We're waiting but not anticipating any because you are in on it, not merely complicit but; clearing acting and operating for one side that is against the premise of our current form of government For The People and By The People with equal justice under the law for all.

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The FBI has FINALLY arrested numerous Antifa related individuals recently. You should probably pay more attention to current events before forming opinions. Trust me I do and that's why I have the opinion of the FBI that I have.

It's sad that we have people on this site that are more willing to believe ridiculous conspiracy theories than they are willing to believe that a small group of anti-government individuals might want to commit violence against a democratic governor. It's not like this is the first example of anti-government violence committed or planned by groups like this. Your Sad, good you should be, with the take you have and the inability and lack of seeing the big picture you should be really sad because it's making the other side mad and "real sad" is coming for all so keep pushing Leftist.

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See bold remarks above and.this final remark.

Hey FBI where was all this dogged under cover work to stop it before it happened with Antifa ? Antifa has been operating for quite some time why weren't they THWARTED ! I could go one but it's no use in dealing with folks that can't see the forest for the trees and really have no desire to. Current events and all that yeah right ! How laughable.

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Finally? They have been making arrests throughout this whole process. Once again, please pay attention to what's going on before commenting.

You should be sad about your inability to follow the basic rules of grammar. However, based on your embarrassing logic, I'm guessing that won't make you sad either.

These guys were fools. We're nowhere near a state or condition justifying their threats or actions. All they've done is cause problems and contribute to conflict versus a more sane and reasonable resolution to this. Their governor and some other public officials are megalomaniacal nuts but they can be voted out. While elections are still legitimate, they are the proper course.

That stupid marxist ***** OUGHT to recognize the she is so ****ing obnoxious that she makes people want to kill her. Her next thought should be how she might be less of a ***** moving forward. Sadly, no such thought will pass through her diseased mind.

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These guys were fools. We're nowhere near a state or condition justifying their threats or actions. All they've done is cause problems and contribute to conflict versus a more sane and reasonable resolution to this. Their governor and some other public officials are megalomaniacal nuts but they can be voted out. While elections are still legitimate, they are the proper course.

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Correct. Yet she did defy her own state Supreme Court. Is that autocratic about killing people's livelihoods. If its true there have been multiple plots, at least they are not imagining the degree of despotism. But you would think there would be more than enough up for election in their legislature to totally shift it against her if they want. That is clearly the winning course to take. But her actions are unhinged. In an Empire Caesar would probably be ordering her removed.

Wolverine watchman....lol. can't decide which marvel character to be? You know the fbi informant got the atf informant and the dea informant all fired up.

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Wolverine watchman....lol. can't decide which marvel character to be? You know the fbi informant got the atf informant and the dea informant all fired up.

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FBI Paid $177k to Infiltrate LA Mosques and Found Nothing
Seems like we have heard this before.

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"Right wing" militia leader?

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Anyone know what that P with the 3 dots American flag is over his left shoulder?

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I wonder if this guy was the informant the fbi paid 10k to entrap a few rw militia guys into a kidnap plot.

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"Right wing" militia leader?

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Anyone know what that P with the 3 dots American flag is over his left shoulder?

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I wonder if this guy was the informant the fbi paid 10k to entrap a few rw militia guys into a kidnap plot.

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I don't think there are any rw militia guys in this story.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess

OverSeas AG said:

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For the record:

I don't believe it at all.

We sit and watch antifa every night and the fbi does nothing. I don't believe this at all.

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It appears I was partially right. It was not some right-wingers. A bunch of anarchist loons.

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The groups stated goals in the online chat as well as the individual ideologies of some members clearly fall more on the right side of the spectrum.

https://conandaily.com/2020/10/09/barry-croft-biography-13-things-about-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-conspirator-from-delaware/

"On May 25, 2019, he tweeted, "Every government official, top to bottom, is responsible for the invasion of America by an estimated 35 million illegal foreign people. Enjoy your memorial day weekend."

"He described himself as a conservative constitutionalist, WPVI-TV quoted his neighbors in Bear as saying."