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barnyard1996 said:

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First time I heard "Proud Boys", I was waiting for the rainbow flag to fly.

Get a new name.

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That was my first thought.

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"Same Dressing Free Masturbaters" doesn't roll as easily off the tongue

News update from facebook histrionics:

A vote for trump Or jorgensen means the proud boys are going to round up all the jews and put them in ovens


Someone said this...with a serious face

He'll, I might join.

txag72 said:

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If someone can show me where they have DONE anything radical, please post it. Otherwise, send me a membership ap.

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This. What exactly have they done that people are upset about? Specific examples please. I can point to several cities that BLM has rioted and burned for example. What have the Proud Boys done that is controversial? Sound like a bunch of patriotic good old boys to me.

Comparing the list of values of BLM (before they sanitized it) to Proud Boys-- and then the media coverage of each-- is quite the lesson in how mentally ****ed this country is.

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Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

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hey libs and concerned moderates, whats wrong with any of that? and whats "white" about it?

Spirit of Western Chauvinism example from the founder of the Proud Boys,

"We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but Aboriginals keep using them as a bed." Gavin McInnes

More identity politics.

What about "venerating house husbands"?

I'm one of those currently.

Jmiller said:

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Spirit of Western Chauvinism example from the founder of the Proud Boys,

"We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but Aboriginals keep using them as a bed." Gavin McInnes

More identity politics.

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I like western culture. It built the greatest country on earth. I want western culture to dominate and continue because its better imo. If you like other cultures, fine. I will continue to advocate for and defend western culture!

As far as identity politics, you're a rad lib. That's all you guys do. "Diversity is our strength" is skin deep.

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Spirit of Western Chauvinism example from the founder of the Proud Boys,

"We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but Aboriginals keep using them as a bed." Gavin McInnes

More identity politics.

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Nah... Plenty of white people in San Francisco are using the streets as toilets too. Oh wait, they reject western culture too.

daggertx said:

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The masturbation thing is a lie btw

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Exactly. There ain't a man alive that would agree to this.

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Anonymous Source said:

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In reading up on the Proud Boys, it seems kind of stupid. Maybe not racist. Definitely stupid.
Aren't you guys past the age where you need to join a club that requires initiation and a tattoo?

I bet most really struggle with that masturbation rule.

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Before passing total judgement you may want to go directly to the source for information on their stances and not depend totally on summarily believing a left wing opinion piece defining who they are with obvious and definite leftist slants and agendas being promoted. .

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Anything that requires me to wear a matching shirt to hang with my bros...nah, I know all I need to know.
It's stupid.

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Ok stay in your basement then. Your choice.

gambochaman said:

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News update from facebook histrionics:

A vote for trump Or jorgensen means the proud boys are going to round up all the jews and put them in ovens


Someone said this...with a serious face

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Wow. The inability to think critically. Stupidity is a hell of a thing.

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Jmiller said:

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Spirit of Western Chauvinism example from the founder of the Proud Boys,

"We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but Aboriginals keep using them as a bed." Gavin McInnes

More identity politics.

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Nah... Plenty of white people in San Francisco are using the streets as toilets too. Oh wait, they reject western culture too.

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Ding, Ding, Ding. Winner. It is NOT race, it is cultural choices that some of which are most manifestly sub-par. Japan reasonably approximated adopting elements of Western culture atop their already very good one.

Look the Left activists today -- its a regressive culture, its is genuinely inferior to true American traditional culture. You see it. They want to break up the nuclear family --- but their approach has achieved almost nothing by comparison.

This goes on and on.

Must say find this term "Western Chauvinist" amusing. Its very close to the concept of Western Exceptionalism. Looking at those traits on first page--- maybe closer than realized. It seemed more like some red-pill meme (not that some of those are not rated or substantive)

Sorry if already posted, but the name is a play off the Rude Boys in Jamaica.

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In reading up on the Proud Boys, it seems kind of stupid. Maybe not racist. Definitely stupid.
Aren't you guys past the age where you need to join a club that requires initiation and a tattoo?

I bet most really struggle with that masturbation rule.

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It's probably hard to pull off.

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Anonymous Source said:

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In reading up on the Proud Boys, it seems kind of stupid. Maybe not racist. Definitely stupid.
Aren't you guys past the age where you need to join a club that requires initiation and a tattoo?

I bet most really struggle with that masturbation rule.

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It's probably hard to pull off.

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Jmiller said:

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Spirit of Western Chauvinism example from the founder of the Proud Boys,

"We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but Aboriginals keep using them as a bed." Gavin McInnes

More identity politics.

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Founder of planned Parenthood stated: We want to exterminate the Negro population.

You are an empty headed leftist shill being paid to stir shlt up on texags. You have no tie to a Texas A&M.

Staff, please take out the trash.

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If `Western Chauvinist' is what it is, that would be consistent. Because the whole point of the Ideal is what it makes possible for all. More than any other system, it has `lifted the most boats'. All of its flaws so talked about are shared and in massive degrees more, by every other system. So its academic.

His message is very interesting. Want to know more about this `vetting process'.

There is nothing KKK by thinking Western Culture is the "it".

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His message is very interesting. Want to know more about this `vetting process'.

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I am sure they just show the multicultural relationships in their group... Maybe even make them kiss someone outside their race and see if they balk

Just for grins from the Failing New York Times ("FNYT"). Notably it does not refer to them as a white supremacy group.

The Proud Boys are practically catnip for #16.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/proud-boys-trump.html

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As some in the rally caravanned by car to Salem, the state capital, the Proud Boys joined a group of right-wing demonstrators who rushed across a street and began attacking people who had set up a leftist counterprotest. At one point, a large man in a bulletproof vest knocked a much smaller counterprotester to the ground, an event the Proud Boys celebrated later when they posted video of the attack. "Hulk smash!" it said.

The far-right band of brothers who have turned street thuggery into political theater had not quite become a household name before President Trump was asked about the Proud Boys during Tuesday night's presidential debate, and whether he would condemn white supremacists: "Proud Boys," he said, "stand back and stand by."
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The Proud Boys describe themselves as "western chauvinists" who "refuse to apologize for creating the modern world." By reputation, the Proud Boys are a far-right group of brawlers where punches are part of membership initiation. Its participants have espoused misogynistic, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant views while making allies with white supremacists whom group leaders claim to disavow.
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Over the past four years, the group has engaged in clashes in cities like Portland, Ore., and Berkeley, Calif., as well as at the notorious neo-Nazi march in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 that was organized by a Proud Boys member.

Mr. Trump sought to quell a backlash from fellow Republicans over his remarks on Wednesday, denying any knowledge of the Proud Boys.
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But the president's remark, which came after Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic candidate, mentioned the group, also attracted attention and approval among avowed white supremacists. "I got shivers. I still have shivers," wrote Andrew Anglin, the founder of the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website. "He is telling the people to stand by. As in: get ready for war."

While the Proud Boys claim to be anti-establishment, they also court members of the Republican elite and count Roger Stone, the conservative political consultant and ally of Mr. Trump, among their most high-profile supporters. Mr. Stone recorded a voice mail message for Mr. Tarrio, who dropped out of the Republican primary for a congressional seat in Florida this year after failing to attract much interest or financial support.

The Proud Boys have been able to make inroads with mainstream conservatives in part because its members wrap themselves in libertarian values, said Samantha Kutner of the Khalifa Ihler Institute, an academic collective that maps far-right groups globally. "It is hard for people to understand the kind of extremism that comes wrapped in the American flag," she said.

Mr. McInnes, a co-founder of Vice, the provocative hipster magazine, established the Proud Boys in 2016 in New York.

He initially conceived of the group as a Knights of Columbus-like drinking club where men could come together in a kind of right-wing safe space. But after Mr. Trump took office, he and the group began to serve as bodyguards for ultraconservative speakers like Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos whose events were protested and occasionally shut down by left-wing antifa activists.

"I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of," he told The New York Times in a 2003 interview. "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life."
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Violence is built into the group's very DNA. There are four levels of membership, starting with saying the pro-Western creed aloud, then moving higher to a Proud Boys tattoo. The highest level was once reserved for those who engage in violence on the group's behalf.

The group's flag, featuring a rooster weather vane pointing west, sports the words "The West is the Best," and its annual convention, held recently in Las Vegas, is called WestFest. The group's name was reportedly inspired by a song, "Proud of Your Boy," written for the Disney film "Aladdin."

Mr. McInnes insisted on Wednesday that there was not "some sort of secret standing army" of Proud Boys and militia men awaiting orders from the president to engage in street fighting. But if violent protests continue around the country, he said, "ordinary Americans are finally going to say, 'We're sick of you burning down our cities,' and they're going to start fighting back."
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The sources of the group's funding remain murky. At one point, members seemed to be paying $20 a month in dues, said Megan Squire, a professor at Elon University in North Carolina who tracks extremist groups online. There is considerable overlap in their membership with neo-Nazi groups, she said.
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Last weekend, the Proud Boys assembled in Portland, billing the gathering as an event to "end domestic terrorism." They predicted that several thousand people would attend, from all over the country.

In the end, there were less than 1,000 some of them members of other right-wing groups.

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policywonk98 said:

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Western Chauvinism seems like an interesting choice to make. Western Civilzation would seem like it can convey the same message without the cultrual baggage of the word. But I guess they consider this in line with rejecting political correctness.

I've heard the term Proud Boys and noticed them mentioned over the last several years. Didnt know much about them though. Thanks for the post.

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It's not Chauvinism, it's Western traditionalism or fundamentalism.

Believing in ideals that are the foundation for western society.

It is "barbaric" and foreign to the modern liberal because they seek to replace the current system entirely.

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policywonk98 said:

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Western Chauvinism seems like an interesting choice to make. Western Civilzation would seem like it can convey the same message without the cultrual baggage of the word. But I guess they consider this in line with rejecting political correctness.

I've heard the term Proud Boys and noticed them mentioned over the last several years. Didnt know much about them though. Thanks for the post.

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It's not Chauvinism, it's Western traditionalism or fundamentalism.

Believing in ideals that are the foundation for western society.

It is "barbaric" and foreign to the modern liberal because they seek to replace the current system entirely.

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The Patriot Prayers thread is trying to tie them to inciting and calling for "more violence".

Is this a group with the Tea Party major, major problem of not having a structure? It looks like it started out as an almost right wing fraternity push back against radicalism, but with the same school group type confrontations?

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Jmiller said:

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Spirit of Western Chauvinism example from the founder of the Proud Boys,

"We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but Aboriginals keep using them as a bed." Gavin McInnes

More identity politics.

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Founder of planned Parenthood stated: We want to exterminate the Negro population.

You are an empty headed leftist shill being paid to stir shlt up on texags. You have no tie to a Texas A&M.

Staff, please take out the trash.

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Sanger said she didn't want people to believe that lie, but you probably already know that.

Not being paid and I do have ties with Tamu going back decades but no tag - don't believe I need one either. Cry to the mods all you want, i've done nothing wrong. I respect whatever decision the mods make. They have always been fair to me.

Tell it to Trump. He claims to have no idea who they are

I went searching for the new Proud Boys shirt I've been hearing that they made only to find out that amazon and other online stores have removed the sale of them. You've gotta be ****ting me.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stand-back-and-stand-by-proud-boys-merchandise-amazon/

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Amazon and other online retailers are pulling merchandise from their sites emblazoned with the words "stand back" and "stand by" and displaying the insignia of the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group.

Shirts bearing the words cropped up for sale after President Donald Trump uttered the phrase on Tuesday night, referring to the white supremacist group, during his debate with Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Individuals associated with the Proud Boys online took Mr. Trump's directive as words of encouragement, and products displaying the phrase quickly made their way onto sites including Amazon and Teespring, an online platform that lets users create and sell their own merchandise.

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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I went searching for the new Proud Boys shirt I've been hearing that they made only to find out that amazon and other online stores have removed the sale of them. You've gotta be ****ting me.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stand-back-and-stand-by-proud-boys-merchandise-amazon/

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Amazon and other online retailers are pulling merchandise from their sites emblazoned with the words "stand back" and "stand by" and displaying the insignia of the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group.

Shirts bearing the words cropped up for sale after President Donald Trump uttered the phrase on Tuesday night, referring to the white supremacist group, during his debate with Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Individuals associated with the Proud Boys online took Mr. Trump's directive as words of encouragement, and products displaying the phrase quickly made their way onto sites including Amazon and Teespring, an online platform that lets users create and sell their own merchandise.

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I havent searched but i am willing to bet you can find BLM and Antifa **** still on there. Hypocrisy continues.....im just so utterly shocked

I did a quick search just now and yes, you can in fact buy a variety of merchandise from the two groups that have been murdering police officers and bystanders in the streets while looting and burning down buildings to the tune of two billion dollars.

Our society is so ****ed.

Well its clear they need to re-brand their name and further clarify positions and possibly distance from others anyway. This offers an opportunity.

https://www.amazon.com/AIJEESI-Decorations-Supplies-Outdoor-Printed/dp/B08FDWCVKK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Antifa&qid=1601587504&sr=8-2

txagbear said:

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Tell it to Trump. He claims to have no idea who they are

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I didn't know who they were until this crap. Hopefully, they destroy your evil brethren.

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mccjames said:

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Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

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In other words, white supremacy. (Using the left's definition.)

The left sees the entire western world as founded on a racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, ideology by a pile of deplorables that they need to purge from the planet.

This is what the entire 1619 project is about.

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You definitely have not actually listened to the podcast.

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policywonk98 said:

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Western Chauvinism seems like an interesting choice to make. Western Civilzation would seem like it can convey the same message without the cultrual baggage of the word. But I guess they consider this in line with rejecting political correctness.

I've heard the term Proud Boys and noticed them mentioned over the last several years. Didnt know much about them though. Thanks for the post.

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It's not Chauvinism, it's Western traditionalism or fundamentalism.

Believing in ideals that are the foundation for western society.

It is "barbaric" and foreign to the modern liberal because they seek to replace the current system entirely.

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The Patriot Prayers thread is trying to tie them to inciting and calling for "more violence".

Is this a group with the Tea Party major, major problem of not having a structure? It looks like it started out as an almost right wing fraternity push back against radicalism, but with the same school group type confrontations?

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I don't understand the last question.