For those who do not know what the Proud Boys stand for.

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1:43p, 9/30/20
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I had to look this up since ever Lib was telling me it was the KKK.

So this is from their website

Core Values Of The Proud Boys:

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is "a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world." We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an "ism", "ist", or "phobic" that fits the Left's narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us
Easy come, Easy go
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1:44p, 9/30/20
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In reply to mccjames • 1:45p, 9/30/20
mccjames said:
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism
In other words, white supremacy. (Using the left's definition.)

The left sees the entire western world as founded on a racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, ideology by a pile of deplorables that they need to purge from the planet.

This is what the entire 1619 project is about.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to mccjames • 1:52p, 9/30/20
mccjames said:
I had to look this up since ever Lib was telling me it was the KKK.

So this is from their website

Core Values Of The Proud Boys:

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is "a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world." We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an "ism", "ist", or "phobic" that fits the Left's narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us


I really appreciate you sharing this information. I didn't realize that I was in fact a proud boy.
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1:53p, 9/30/20
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Dog whistles!!!!

All of it is dog whistles!!!!
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1:54p, 9/30/20
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Still can't believe Trump named dropped proud boys instead of denouncing white supremacy and belittling Wallace for the BS question.
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Pretty much. The left defines traditional American and western culture as "white" and therefore pride in it or advocacy for it is supremacist. Patriotism is supremacist. They made the definition incredibly wide so they can smear the most conservatives with it.
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1:56p, 9/30/20
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First time I heard "Proud Boys", I was waiting for the rainbow flag to fly.

Get a new name.
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1:58p, 9/30/20
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I posted similar info earlier today on the thread about how the Proud Boys should rebrand. I will share here as well, sorry for the repeat of info on their true tenets but; given how they've been so totally mis-represented in the media perhaps they should look at re-branding to a degree.


Maybe they should just go back to an oldie gut a goodie

"Sons of Liberty".they even had a teen age off shoot called the "Liberty Boys" back in 1765

Engineered the Boston Tea Party and got the initial wave going for undermining British Rule over America etc..

Just re adapt and perhaps update the original tenets

Proud Boys' values center on the following tenets:

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

I would add;

An organization dedicated to the preservation of our Republic through Rugged American Individualism with the willingness, ability and rights to organize and peacably assemble in counter protest of any and all organized domestic enemies of the state attacking the American way of life, it's basic freedoms, liberties and pursuits of happiness granted to all Americans by the United States Constitution .

I will add this edit, Surely there could be some great S.O.L. acronym plays in advertising and t shirts takes.

If you line up against America you're gonna be SOL'd
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1:58p, 9/30/20
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Is there a group in San Antonio? I listened to the Red Pilled America episode with Gavin and thought meh, buncha punk rock guys brawlin and being politically incorrect. Now im more inclined to see what they are about and based on that list im membership material.
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1:58p, 9/30/20
What if I don't want to grow a beard or craft my own beer, can I still join?
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In reply to mccjames • 1:58p, 9/30/20
mccjames said:
I had to look this up since ever Lib was telling me it was the KKK.

So this is from their website

Core Values Of The Proud Boys:

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is "a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world." We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an "ism", "ist", or "phobic" that fits the Left's narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us


Sounds like most of us in this forum.
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1:59p, 9/30/20
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Western Chauvinism seems like an interesting choice to make. Western Civilzation would seem like it can convey the same message without the cultrual baggage of the word. But I guess they consider this in line with rejecting political correctness.

I've heard the term Proud Boys and noticed them mentioned over the last several years. Didnt know much about them though. Thanks for the post.
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2:04p, 9/30/20
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Weren't they originally made up by 4chan to troll the left? As in they didn't even exist?
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In reply to thirdcoast • 2:04p, 9/30/20
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thirdcoast said:
Still can't believe Trump named dropped proud boys instead of denouncing white supremacy and belittling Wallace for the BS question.
He didn't. Biden said Proud boys. So Trump said to stand back. He wasn't going to condemn them because they aren't the KKK and(according to his new tweet) doesn't even know exactly what they stand for. But he said to stand back and not escalate the situation. In fact, the more you break it down, the more it's just fine as an answer, even though the average american won't see it that way.

It's all clear in the transcript in between these two teaming up on him.
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Is this pre or post Gavin McGinnis

Have they changed
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In reply to beerad12man • 2:06p, 9/30/20
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beerad12man said:
thirdcoast said:
Still can't believe Trump named dropped proud boys instead of denouncing white supremacy and belittling Wallace for the BS question.
He didn't. Biden said Proud boys. So Trump said to stand back. He wasn't going to condemn them because they aren't the KKK and(according to his new tweet) doesn't even know exactly what they stand for. But he said to stand back and not escalate the situation. In fact, the more you break it down, the more it's just fine as an answer, even though the average american won't see it that way.

It's all clear in the transcript in between these two teaming up on him.



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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 2:06p, 9/30/20
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MouthBQ98 said:
Pretty much. The left defines traditional American and western culture as "white" and therefore pride in it or advocacy for it is supremacist. Patriotism is supremacist. They made the definition incredibly wide so they can smear the most conservatives with it.
Well if that is how they define supremacist, so be it.

As for the group here, very interesting collections of beliefs. It is not at all what I was assuming--some kind of more inclusive but rehased version of the bigoted skinheads. Not at all. Nor is it as simple as just being the redone Nazis for the the fringe of the alt-right (yes, it too has fringes). There is more to this story it appears.

Agree the brand is just -- doesn't work. Its sounds Leftist -- like `loud and proud' about all the fringe groups.

FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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In reply to thirdcoast • 2:07p, 9/30/20
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Still can't believe Trump named dropped proud boys instead of denouncing white supremacy and belittling Wallace for the BS question.


According to the transcript in the Breitbart article posted in the other thread, it was Biden who brought up the Proud Boys. Trump therefore was just following through on his "name a group, I'll denounce them" statement.
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Doesn't matter what they stand for, supposed conservative hero Tim Scott thinks Trump needs to apologize
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barnyard1996 said:
First time I heard "Proud Boys", I was waiting for the rainbow flag to fly.

Get a new name.
Get an understanding of irony
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barnyard1996 said:
First time I heard "Proud Boys", I was waiting for the rainbow flag to fly.

Get a new name.
Get an understanding of irony
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thirdcoast said:
Still can't believe Trump named dropped proud boys instead of denouncing white supremacy and belittling Wallace for the BS question.
This is the third thread I've seen you post this in. Biden brought up the Proud Boys and Trump responded to him. Were you drunk last night or are you just lying intentionally?
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In reply to Fishin Texas Aggie 05 • 2:12p, 9/30/20
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Fishin Texas Aggie 05 said:
Is this pre or post Gavin McGinnis

Have they changed
Interested to know. I've heard both. A group that just supports western culture regardless of race or gender. Yeah, sign me up. But Gavin McGinnis founded it with some ill fated intentions.
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In reply to Barnyard96 • 2:12p, 9/30/20
barnyard1996 said:
First time I heard "Proud Boys", I was waiting for the rainbow flag to fly.

Get a new name.


This.

Sounds like a gay boy band.
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2:13p, 9/30/20
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There is a point after which when correction has been offered if something is repeated it is propaganda in intent.
FrioAg 00:
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In reply to TXaggiesTX • 2:13p, 9/30/20
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Doesn't matter what they stand for, supposed conservative hero Tim Scott thinks Trump needs to apologize
I'm fine with this. He didn't say he has to apologize, just to correct it. I think it's a wise idea regardless. And Trump already has.
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It's time for a new name. It may have started in jest at first, but with the riot meter set to 11 it's time to get serious. It might increase their membership as well.
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2:15p, 9/30/20
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If the liberal press does not like someone or something, they brand it as racists. I personally don't think the Proud Boys are white supremacists, but you can't tell that by watching the news today!
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In reply to TXaggiesTX • 2:15p, 9/30/20
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TXaggiesTX said:


Doesn't matter what they stand for, supposed conservative hero Tim Scott thinks Trump needs to apologize
Well, IMHO Tim needs to back up on some of his latest stances, he's caving and pandering and showing less back bone than he started out showing and that is not what's required honestly for times like these.
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2:15p, 9/30/20
Lots of Brothers in the Proud Boys. Damn White Supremacists.





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In reply to mwp02ag • 2:16p, 9/30/20
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Is there a group in San Antonio? I listened to the Red Pilled America episode with Gavin and thought meh, buncha punk rock guys brawlin and being politically incorrect. Now im more inclined to see what they are about and based on that list im membership material.


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The proud boys have a policy of not wanting guys to "polish their horn" so I guess I'm out
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If they are anti-racism, Ibram Kendi may literally lose his mind.
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