SpaceX and other space news updates

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It really is remarkable what they've been able to do in such a relatively short amount of time. Their innovation and successes have both forced traditional launch providers to innovate as well as provide opportunities for other launch startups that most likely would never have been possible. What a time to be alive in the space renaissance.
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Don't come at me with any "woke" comments (my middle one, 8 years old with Down Syndrome got her birthday wish to go meet the princesses, so…), but I was at Disney Hollywood yesterday. Just happened that we were in the park-to-Park gondola when it launched and had a wonderful view. The whole event was very visible nearly 60 miles away. It was surreal to see. I had completely forgotten about the launch date, and was thinking there're was a fire far off in the distance, then thought it might have been fireworks going off too early from the other Disney properties
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There will likely be a second launch tower built at Starbase





Seems to be pretty tight space though to land boosters
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I mean sure, maybe? But didn't Elon say this month that the goal is to have one or two of the oil rigs working for at least landings by around this time next year? (Phobos and Deimos?).

Those would also necessarily need to…get out to sea and I'd think the fabrication/transport from the fabrication facility to a deep water port is going to be easier from Florida than starbase.
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The plan all along has been to land them and then hop them back to Starbase, not transport them overland
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Things are heating up.



OKCAg2002
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Off topic, but it would be cool to live next to the SpaceX BC facility…until they actually start a launch cadence of those things. We used to live near railroad tracks and those were obnoxious. Can you imagine having to evacuate your house multiple times a week for starship launches and testing? Lol
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That's part of/the main reason they picked that area. The only tiny little residential area nearby, Boca Chica village, was basically a small trailer park, but of course once they found out what was going on some refused to sell out to spacex.

We don't have a lot of shoreline (particularly facing east) without any homes near it in the US (ITAR limits them to the US for initial launches anyway). 'Boca Chica Gal' and some of the 'semi-famous' photographers around there are in that little trailer park. There were only 6 permanent residents back in 2008, now there are probably 40, and you'd think all they have time to do is whine about spacex if you read social media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Chica_Village,_Texas
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There were only 9 left in March of 2021 according to Maria AKA Boca Chica Gal.

https://www.portisabelsouthpadre.com/2021/03/05/musk-pursues-incorporation-of-boca-chica-village-into-new-city/
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OKCAg2002 said:

Off topic, but it would be cool to live next to the SpaceX BC facility…until they actually start a launch cadence of those things. We used to live near railroad tracks and those were obnoxious. Can you imagine having to evacuate your house multiple times a week for starship launches and testing? Lol
If I lived there, daily launches of Starships would be the highlight of my day
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That is a full blown money grabbing Californian transplant. She's delusional enough she thinks she can 100% stop imminent domain, and hold spacex hostage.
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Ag_of_08 said:

That is a full blown money grabbing Californian transplant. She's delusional enough she thinks she can 100% stop imminent domain, and hold spacex hostage.


Her and her husband retired there years ago. She is a massive SpaceX fan and the original person that gave the internet access to what was happening with weekly pictures, long before the live cams were set up.

Edit: Elon bought all but a handful of houses. There are only a few hold outs. Maria sold out last year and now rents to stay close for access.
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She's a parasite, imho.
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Cause she's been obnoxious about the whole situation, and thinks her property is worth 10x what it is unless something has changed. She's making a profit from spacex, yet is part of what is making things so complicated for them.

Sorry not a fan of her. The ones refusing to sell in that community think they're untouchable. They also think imminent domain doesn't apply to them, which is amusing...
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I haven't kept up with it in a couple years, things have changed since then. I just remember the original drama that went down with all of it, and the refusal by several of them to sell....
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Aren't Mary (bocachicagal) and Maria different people?

https://twitter.com/bocachicagal/



ETA: a reddit thread on Mary v Maria
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Mary and Maria hate each other apparently
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Just wanted to mention SpaceX launched their 4th successful mission of the year today. The 5th flies tomorrow, and there are five more on the manifest with NET January dates.

We could have 10 launches in JANUARY.
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Just when the Mary/Maria gossip was getting good too.
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Is it just me, or does that rocket look duct-taped together?
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PJYoung said:


How does the ban on semiconductor trade to China affect China's space race?
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It won't be anything close to starship without raptor engines.
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After kicking off my career at NASA-JSC and then working for Intuitive Machines for the first 13 years, I took a bit of a break from the space race to work on subsea robotics and consulting. Even so, I couldn't get too far away since those consulting jobs resulted in work supporting New Glenn GSE and Axiom Space.

Now, after a 3 month sabbatical, it's time to jump back into the space race. And what a time! Blue Origin is paying big money to catch up to SpaceX, and that's kind of bumped up the pay and benefits for the entire industry.

I've got an offer from Redwire Space in Longmont, working thru the interview process at Blue Origin, and have applications out to Sierra Space, iSpace, Honeybee Robotics, Lockheed, CesiumAstro, General Atomics, and another stint at Intuitive Machines.

Love it. Can't wait to see where this goes. My primary goal is to be part of the ecosystems that support a human presence on the moon.
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
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Not much. Keep in mind that while they are building new things, or designing them, much of what they are actually flying people to/from space on is still ancient Russian stuff. Their rocketry tech is impressive, but not anything close to 'bleeding edge' (they are a long ways off in truth from something akin to the F9) and in general doesn't rely on the very latest electronic wizardry for control etc. They have no problem making iphones and all of our latest consumer grade chips.

A real 300 bar full flow staged combustion methelox engine re-usable rocket with no hypergolic thrusters they...won't be firing up anytime soon. Much of the 'China' space race I am convinced is for middle school consumption.
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Good luck!
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Good luck, sir! I've also got applications open at Blue and Intuitive (hopefully we're not competing against each other...well, actually you probably should because nobody seems to think much of me), sent an app to NASA-JSC just the other night, shot one to ULA, trying to figure out who else to reach out to.

Let us know how it goes!
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NASAg03 said:

After kicking off my career at NASA-JSC and then working for Intuitive Machines for the first 13 years, I took a bit of a break from the space race to work on subsea robotics and consulting. Even so, I couldn't get too far away since those consulting jobs resulted in work supporting New Glenn GSE and Axiom Space.

Now, after a 3 month sabbatical, it's time to jump back into the space race. And what a time! Blue Origin is paying big money to catch up to SpaceX, and that's kind of bumped up the pay and benefits for the entire industry.

I've got an offer from Redwire Space in Longmont, working thru the interview process at Blue Origin, and have applications out to Sierra Space, iSpace, Honeybee Robotics, Lockheed, CesiumAstro, General Atomics, and another stint at Intuitive Machines.

Love it. Can't wait to see where this goes make a $h!tload of money. My primary goal is to be part of the ecosystems that support a human presence on the moon fill a swimming pool with my earnings in gold rounds and jump in it buck nekkid'.

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Good luck!

Also, LFG!



NASAg03
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Maximus_Meridius said:

Good luck, sir! I've also got applications open at Blue and Intuitive (hopefully we're not competing against each other...well, actually you probably should because nobody seems to think much of me), sent an app to NASA-JSC just the other night, shot one to ULA, trying to figure out who else to reach out to.

Let us know how it goes!
With how much is open out there, we're all on the same team and they need many players. Shoot me an email / connect on LinkedIn and I can give you a list of all the reqs I've applied to, and point you towards additional companies. There are many I've worked at in the past as well that I can provide some inside knowledge to culture and experience.

mike shaw 03 at yahoo dot com

Here are some more places to look into:

Jacobs @ NASA-JSC
Barrios @ NASA-JSC
Axiom Space
Novium Ltd
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Sounds good, sent you a request on LinkedIn.
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Is it the deluge system spacex is finally going to admit is a good idea for starship?

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That's gone about as well as one might expect. Even Starship, which can produce about 18% as much thrust as Super Heavy, has repeatedly incinerated the concrete beneath its test stand, spreading molten debris for thousands of feet and starting major brush fires in a nature reserve. After every six-engine Starship static fire, SpaceX must painstakingly remove and replace all of the concrete beneath the test stand.

The problem is even more apparent at Starbase's orbital launch mount, where SpaceX has begun to conduct Super Heavy booster static fire tests. Despite apparently using expensive high-temperature concrete, SpaceX has had to replace the concrete under the OLM after almost every Super Heavy static fire a process that takes a week or two.

For the time being, Starbase's environmental permit only allows up to five orbital launches per year, making lengthy post-launch repairs mostly inconsequential. But if SpaceX ever wants Starbase to rapidly launch multiple Starships back to back (essential for in-space refilling) or launch dozens of Starships per year, it's become clear that a deluge system is likely essential.

STARSHIP'S FLORIDA DELUGE

Some part of SpaceX knows that. The design of Starship's first Florida launch pad has already been upgraded to include a giant deluge ring embedded in the ground at the base of the mount. Unusual design aside, the structure is sized such that it's almost certainly a high-flow deluge system capable of spraying thousands of gallons of water per second.
I've not understood at all their obstinate refusal to build a flame diverter/deluge system, at all, for the first/only at the moment orbital launch mount. Fancy concrete and all that is great, but is sort of like trying to use fix a flat after a blowout given the amount of power 33 raptors will toss at it.
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