Zack thinks mid to late Jan.

Silly me forgot to include removing ship lifting points and tiling over lift mounts to this list.

Lifting points are currently being removed, I think there may be one left. Historically, tiling over these locations has been rather time consuming.

I think mid to late January… https://t.co/mPPT18jULZ pic.twitter.com/BVJFJhbtxU

— Zack Golden (@CSI_Starbase) January 4, 2024

Interesting speculation. It's sort of bugged me seeing them not replace/repair this damaged water tank for a while anyway, wholesale improvement seems to be underway with the new system;

Why is this unused water tank being removed before the active water tank which is severely damaged??

Here is a brief speculative explanation:

As I have mentioned in a previous post,(https://t.co/dkKmlrop8L) the two active water tanks are crucial for the operation of the… pic.twitter.com/L2VX9eU5e4

— Zack Golden (@CSI_Starbase) January 5, 2024

Awesome. Musk will land, and then land again before the nuts can agree on identity of the movie director.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/05/world/peregrine-moon-mission-navajo-nation-objection-human-remains-scn/index.html


What the holy hell?

Mathguy64 said:

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/05/world/peregrine-moon-mission-navajo-nation-objection-human-remains-scn/index.html


What the holy hell?

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Give them some beads and see if that will satisfy them.

Seriously... the moon is not theirs. Enough is enough.

Mathguy64 said:

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/05/world/peregrine-moon-mission-navajo-nation-objection-human-remains-scn/index.html


What the holy hell?

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What would they do if the Chinese or Russians or any other country announce a mission to do the same thing?

Try to shoot it down with a bow and arrow?

The tribes revered the bright spot in the sky. There's no reason to substantiate an argument that they hold any priority on the usage of the moon. Any historical cosmology was incredibly primitive. And current day belief systems aren't compelling, considering we've been exploring the moon for 70 years now.

As a Sun worshiper I find it offensive to capture its holy light for energy purposes.

OUR SACRED PHOTONS WERE NOT MEANT FOR OTHERS TO DESECRATE BY ABSORBING

Elizabeth Warren never seemed to have an issue with moon landings

Excellent point.

The Indians already don't have much of a leg to stand on. Celestis launched DNA from renowned astronomer Dr. Eugene Shoemaker to the moon Jan. 6. 1998. He arrived on July 31, 1999.

https://www.celestis.com/launch-schedule/luna-01-flight/#mission-details

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ABOUT THE LUNA 01 FLIGHT
At NASA's request, Celestis provided its first Luna Service mission by helping friends of noted planetary geologist Dr. Eugene Shoemaker include a symbolic portion of Dr. Shoemaker's cremated remains on the NASA Lunar Prospector mission launched January 6, 1998 from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida.
The spacecraft impacted the lunar surface inside a permanently shadowed crater near the south lunar pole, creating a permanent monument to Dr. Shoemaker. Impact occurred at 4:52 a.m. CDT (9:52 a.m. GMT), July 31, 1999.
Lunar Prospector was one of the most productive, least expensive space missions. Part of NASA's Discovery Program, Lunar Prospector served as a follow-on to the successful Clementine mission of 1994. In 1994, the Clementine spacecraft orbiting the Moon made observations that indicated the presence of water ice on the lunar surface. On March 5, 1998, it was announced that Lunar Prospector had also found evidence suggesting the presence of water ice at both lunar poles.
The presence of water ice on the Moon would facilitate future attempts at lunar colonization. How fitting that Dr. Eugene Shoemaker participated in one last experiment -- an experiment that could benefit our future in space.

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The first simulated black hole image: calculated by an IBM 7040 using punch-card data then the thousands of points were hand-plotted by Jean-Pierre Luminet in 1978.

And now that we have an actual photo of black hole M87, we can confirm that even this early result was accurate. pic.twitter.com/thBEtBZDeZ

— ToughSF (@ToughSf) January 7, 2024

Mind bottling.





More here.

Amazing

Happy Vulcan Day!

1:15 min to launch for Vulcan

Good launch.

Not looking good for Astrobotic...

An Update on Peregrine Mission One: pic.twitter.com/Q20dGVOMml

— Astrobotic (@astrobotic) January 8, 2024

Wow that would suck if the mission is over that fast!

Sounds like they are in an uncontrolled tumble. They only have one solar panel, so onboard power is limited, along with consistent communications. They do have a live-stream:

Update #2 on Peregrine Mission One: pic.twitter.com/hS5QsAihh4

— Astrobotic (@astrobotic) January 8, 2024

For the software peeps on this thread, there's a GitHub archive with tools to view NASA's Deep Space Network (DSN).

https://github.com/Vinz87/DSNMonitor

http://vinshome.ddns.net/DSNMonitor/

Update #4 for Peregrine Mission One: pic.twitter.com/6uISAG3Je1

— Astrobotic (@astrobotic) January 8, 2024

Yeah, the mission is toast...critical loss of propellent as well.

It continues to boggle my mind that 54 years ago we landed men on the moon and returned them using slide rules and today just attempting a non manned landing (or here just a launch and beginning of transit) is so often plagued with failure.

It's not exactly a fair comparison - 54 years ago you had the world's most powerful nation put it's full might behind the goal of going to the moon. Since then we've had a few private companies and India, China? Something like that.

It just hasn't been a priority.

Though on the bright side, its appears ULA's new rocket did its job.

Space is hard

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Though on the bright side, its appears ULA's new rocket did its job.

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That's a very bright side. There was a lot of doubt that Blue Origin could deliver the booster engines that had been promised completion some two years ago. It is also a little concerning that these two BE-4 engines are the only two flight-ready iterations in existence, despite the fact that these engines are intended to power New Glenn which will need 7 for the boost phase alone.

They have a lot left to develop before New Glenn takes flight but a flawless flight of Vulcan is a huge step toward seeing this through. They have earned praise for this achievement.

SpaceX had a number of early failures and now I assume they have the longest streak of successful launches in the history of space flight with the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy. I don't have the data but just looking at the number of launches per year they are doing and it has been since 2015 that a Falcon 9 rocket failed, I am making that assumption.

I exclude the Starship which is an entirely new platform and shows it takes time to work out the kinks even for an established rocket company.

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Though on the bright side, its appears ULA's new rocket did its job.

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Though on the not-so-bright side, it's just another already-outdated disposable rocket, provided at high cost to the only high-cost customer, the US government/taxpayer.

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Bubblez said:

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Though on the bright side, its appears ULA's new rocket did its job.

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Though on the not-so-bright side, it's just another already-outdated disposable rocket, provided at high cost to the only high-cost customer, the US government/taxpayer.

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Why use SpaceX when you can spend 10x the amount on an unproven solution? We gotta keep Lockheed and Boeing ripping off the American taxpayer.