Two years on it still took a court order to end the airline mask mandate. And for some strange reason the Biden Administration didn't try to push back on it.

More like Deborah Marx

Were the posts affected by the Great Forum 16 Purge reinstated? I've seen several old posts from that era appear

" #2-4 aren't really an element of flattening the curve in its purest of definitions (although the definition has been altered over the last few months). The term "flattening the curve" is NOT designed to reduce the number of cases. Take the definition from WebMD:

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The flatter curve shows what happens if the spread of the virus slows down. The same number of people may get sick, but the infections happen over a longer span of time, so hospitals can treat everyone."

The Web MD explanation is yet another lie. COVID-19 is the only illness I'm aware of where patients were told by ERs and Dr offices to go home, without treatment, and wait until they developed a low O2 issue before asking for help. NO TREATMENT! Never forget this. Inexpensive and effective treatment was/is available.

Rocky Rider said:

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" #2-4 aren't really an element of flattening the curve in its purest of definitions (although the definition has been altered over the last few months). The term "flattening the curve" is NOT designed to reduce the number of cases. Take the definition from WebMD:

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The flatter curve shows what happens if the spread of the virus slows down. The same number of people may get sick, but the infections happen over a longer span of time, so hospitals can treat everyone."

The Web MD explanation is yet another lie. COVID-19 is the only illness I'm aware of where patients were told by ERs and Dr offices to go home, without treatment, and wait until they developed a low O2 issue before asking for help. NO TREATMENT! Never forget this. Inexpensive and effective treatment was/is available.

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No treatment unless you develop major issues?

That's pretty much the norm, isn't it?

I've gone to the doctor several times and the doctor sent me home, often with a prescription, and told me to come back if the issues get worse.

Is covid really the only illness you are aware of where they send you home if you aren't that sick?

There are some diseases where they will rush you into the hospital and isolate you from everyone.

One is hepatitis. When my oldest brother had it when I was a kid ( he was 13 years older than me), the doctors not only hospitalized him immediately, they wouldn't allow visitors. They did reluctantly let my father in once for a brief visit.

Another was ebola. If you have ebola in the US, you are going to be hospitalized no matter what.

Rabies is usually like that, too, but I am aware of one case that they sent home several times without treatment because they couldn't figure out what she had. Once they did figure out that it was rabies, she stayed in the hospital and then left. Her name was never released to the public that I know of and so we really don't know what happened to her later.

There are a few others that I'm sure you get hospitalized immediately for treatment -- the plague and hantavirus, for example. I think that they also do that for Marburg's and Lassa Fever.

Note, however, that they are all relatively rare diseases.

Of the more common diseases, they are hardly going to admit you to the hospital just because you have the disease. At least not around here. Where you live, are you automagically admitted to the hospital for pretty much any disease?

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Is covid really the only illness you are aware of where they send you home if you aren't that sick?

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It wasn't merely that patients were sent home but that doctors, hospitals, the AMA, and the CDC insisted that there were no effective prescription therapeutics that were effective against COVID-19 depite the fact that medications routinely prescribed for illnesses like influenza did have positive effects on COVID-19 symptoms. The "standards of care" protocols became severely limiting handcuffs that would lead to physicians being threatened with having their licenses revoked and facing professional censure if they prescribed therapies off label.

Simple things like prescriptions for albuterol or other bronchio dilators were suddenly forbidden and reviewed by pharmacists. The dramatic success of Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's HCQ, Zinc, and Azithromycin protocol was not ignored by the FDA, CDC, and AMA but was vilified and they wrote hitpieces on him. Doctors were not allowed to dissent from anything and were not allowed to used their judgment in treating patients, let alone talk about it or post about it. Even personal web pages would become instantly invisible to Google searches if they repeated any suggested outpatient therapies for COVID-19.

In hindsight, it is apparent that the perverse financial incentives for hospitals and doctors created under the CARE Act were rewarding the diagnosis, hospitalization, and intubation of COVID-19 cases.

The legal restrictions on Emergency Use Authorization of experimental drugs meant that the mRNA and J&J vaccines (that were superficially tested in six weeks trials) could not be authorized if other drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin were effective as therapeutics. Anyone who dared to prescribed them was punished and professionally destroyed.

Research on SARS CoV-1 by NIH had identified HCQ as a very effective first drug of choice for treating coronavirus infections but the NIH, CDC. and AMA just pretended that the research didn't exist.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

No argument that it's not uncommon for doctor to prescribe bed rest and over the counter medications. Also very unusual to admit someone to the hospital after a doctor visit.

My point regarding lack of treatment is a world wide pandemic was declared and it's been proven that Ivermectin, HCQ, and possibly monoclonal antibodies were very effective treatments. People were doctor shopping for someone that would prescribe Ivermectin or they bought it outside the U.S.

The US medical community refused to treat the illness using methods successfully used by other countries. I will always believe big pharma and big medical were not interested in inexpensive treatments.

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The US medical community refused to treat the illness using methods successfully used by other countries. I will always believe big pharma and big medical were not interested in inexpensive treatments.

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Covid killed my dad.

I firmly believe that, had our local doctors allowed ivermectin or hcq, he would likely be alive today.

I'm not sure I will ever fully trust the medical community again.

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Flatten the curve

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Alex, I'll take stupid comments for $2000.