Ciboag96 said:

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You know, what are the odds that Canada only has a couple hundred cases and Trudeau's wife is one of them. Bet you ass there are a **** ton of infections out there that are so mild as to not event be on the radar.

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100%

Precisely why I said I believer millions have, or have had it. End of next week and this will start playing out (media coverage) and things will get back to normal.

Whiskey Jacket said:

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4 months......

Should start killing off half the population any day now.

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Chevron just shut down it's Gulf of Mexico offices in Houston and Covington for two weeks. Everyone to work from home.

Trump says a paper outlining other measures will be released in about 2 hours.

Wild. Covid 19 postive in Yoakum. Population around 5k.
https://www.crossroadstoday.com/breaking-youkum-community-hospital-confirms-covid-19-case/?fbclid=IwAR0Kabm6mnmZaU-dnCx1AB68-WhJdKk4y7h355pEVojwM0kPTpU54gjU3VE

tysker said:

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The first case of someone in China suffering from Covid-19 , the disease caused by the novel coronavirus , can be traced back to November 17,

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So a person known to have clear distinct symptoms. How many infected people, say under 40 were walking around with a bit of headache and lingering cough. for days/weeks prior transmitted to others...?

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At what point is one no longer contagious? After the fever?

Today Trump said what should have been said two to three weeks ago.

This delay is a result of the politicization of this virus. Left blames trump, trump/right has to downplay Virus. Virus multiplies for two weeks, meanwhile no more TP, markets drop, etc.

Way to go politics...

Agnzona said:

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tysker said:

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The first case of someone in China suffering from Covid-19 , the disease caused by the novel coronavirus , can be traced back to November 17,

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So a person known to have clear distinct symptoms. How many infected people, say under 40 were walking around with a bit of headache and lingering cough. for days/weeks prior transmitted to others...?

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At what point is one no longer contagious? After the fever?

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When the virus doesn't show up in bodily fluids, that can be a while after fever is gone.

Blames politics for the failures.

Immediately blames the left


Ffs

KorbinDallas said:

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Our parents/grandparents were called to war. We are called to stay at home and watch Netflix...

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How old are your kids that you get to sit around and watch Netflix??

Excellent read. After reading that it's probably time to pull our salespeople off the road.

HouAggie2007 said:

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Blames politics for the failures.

Immediately blames the left


Ffs

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If you read what I wrote I blame both.

I blame the left for seeing it as an opportunity to get Trump. I blame Trump for slow rolling and letting the virus spread. For the record if the roles were reversed I think the outcome would be the same.

No kids, I would be watching Netflix if My job allowed it.

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Worst Case Scenario by CDC [source]

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected (Worst case scenario). Dr. Lawler, an infectious diseases specialist, provided a "best guess" projections of 96 million people

Could last months or even over a year

As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die. Dr. Lawler's calculations: 480,000 deaths, which he said was conservative

By contrast, 20,000 to 50,000 people have died from flu-related illnesses this season according to CDC.

2.4 million to 21 million people in the U.S. could require hospitalization, potentially crushing the nation's medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds. Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill

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https://dnyuz.com/2020/03/13/the-worst-case-estimate-for-u-s-coronavirus-deaths/

I allowed my kids to play Plague Inc and surprisingly it opened an avenue of conversation to illustrate that this virus nonsense isn't apocalyptic and not be feared -- it can be controlled via behavior. I'm a bit shocked that this silly game could provide that sort of opportunity.

UncoverAg00 said:

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I allowed my kids to play Plague Inc and surprisingly it opened an avenue of conversation to illustrate that this virus nonsense isn't apocalyptic and not be feared -- it can be controlled via behavior. I'm a bit shocked that this silly game could provide that sort of opportunity.

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Video games are interactive story telling.

what we need is to get to something that

1) works to help address outbreaks without crippling the economy completely and

2) demonstrably shows results insofar as reducing outbreak deaths and bends the epidemic curve down quickly

once we do that and show it works, people will get used to it and calm down

it'll be like periodic small scale air raids for two years with early warning systems. it'll suck, but not be absolutely terrifying.

the most vulnerable will have to shelter in place more often that not, but that'll be the price of saving lives

PJYoung said:

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Apparently ski resorts are hot spots.

So Spain just updated their daily stats. Over 2,000 today. 2,086

5,232 total

Meanwhile at SPI

The herpes simplex virus should be the bigger concern at spi

C@LAg said:

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somehow, some way, this is all Trump's fault.

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From Page 1.... Prophetic.

Good article talking about CDC modeling

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.html

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The C.D.C.'s scenarios were depicted in terms of percentages of the population. Translated into absolute numbers by independent experts using simple models of how viruses spread, the worst-case figures would be staggering if no actions were taken to slow transmission.

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the United States could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection. That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said. As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.'s scenarios suggested, 2.4 million to 21 million people in the United States could require hospitalization, potentially crushing the nation's medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds. Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill.

The assumptions fueling those scenarios are mitigated by the fact that cities, states, businesses and individuals are beginning to take steps to slow transmission, even if some are acting less aggressively than others. The C.D.C.-led effort is developing more sophisticated models showing how interventions might decrease the worst-case numbers, though their projections have not been made public.

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Even severe flu seasons stress the nation's hospitals to the point of setting up tents in parking lots and keeping people for days in emergency rooms. Coronavirus is likely to cause five to 10 times that burden of disease, said Dr. James Lawler, an infectious diseases specialist and public health expert at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. Hospitals "need to start working now," he said, "to get prepared to take care of a heck of a lot of people."

Dr. Lawler recently presented his own "best guess" projections to American hospital and health system executives at a private webinar convened by the American Hospital Association. He estimated that some 96 million people in the United States would be infected. Five out of every hundred would need hospitalization, which would mean close to five million hospital admissions, nearly two million of those patients requiring intensive care and about half of those needing the support of ventilators.

Dr. Lawler's calculations suggested 480,000 deaths, which he said was conservative. By contrast, about 20,000 to 50,000 people have died from flu-related illnesses this season, according to the C.D.C. Unlike with seasonal influenza, the entire population is thought to be susceptible to the new coronavirus.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaking at a congressional hearing on Thursday, said predictions based on models should be treated with caution. "All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model," he said, responding to a question from Representative Rashida Tlaib about an estimate from the attending physician of Congress that the United States could have 70 million to 150 million coronavirus cases.

What will determine the ultimate number, he said, "will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation."

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Holy Cow!


Things are so different now vs shopping last week

I think we have like three cases in MO.

I had to go to three different stores to try to find most of the stuff we needed. Let alone wanted.

Why is everyone out of soba noodles? And seriously? Everyone is stockpiling all Bubly water but the watermelon? WATERMELON AND ANYTHING WATERMELON FLAVORED FREAKING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! No chicken tikka masala sauce? Don't tell me butter chicken is just as good.

No lentils anywhere in the store? Then why am I buying this Italian sausage and broccoli rabe?

Even Aldis was out of stuff.

No bread and almost no turkey or chicken.
And yadda, yadda, yadda on no chicken thighs. I don't see you shipping me something cheaper than poultry

Aldis an hour ago

No Bread. Not even nasty raisin bread because I heard a guy asking about it.


The chicken and turkey section





We have collectively lost our minds.


I don't know if any of you read Zombie Apocalypse stuff, but I so recommend Adrian's Undead Diary. It is an 8 part series.


And today at Aldis, Hyvee, and Gerbes was something like he described in Book One when everyone was rushing to the store to buy supplies to hide out at home until the zombies left. He stole bananas. I find that amusing.

Apache said:

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Wild. Covid 19 postive in Yoakum. Population around 5k.
https://www.crossroadstoday.com/breaking-youkum-community-hospital-confirms-covid-19-case/?fbclid=IwAR0Kabm6mnmZaU-dnCx1AB68-WhJdKk4y7h355pEVojwM0kPTpU54gjU3VE

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Yeah, this small town got crazy. I figured it was someone drunk at 10 am on corona

Wife said HEB was packed but not crazy and SIL said kids were leaving school like crazy when it got announced.

We have the chocolate creme Cadbury eggs at the store by me in Springfield.