What does that refer to? Actually there could be general public agreement, and the Senate can still acquit. Its really up to the Senate. Nothing binds their actions per-se.rwpag71 said:
Just to establish a base line that can be referred to at the end of the Senate process:
The RCP average to remove Trump from office is now 47.3%. At 538 that number stands at 46.9%.
Just two compilations of polls reflecting public opinion at start of trial. Let's see if there is any movement as a result of the trial.titan said:What does that refer to? Actually there could be general public agreement, and the Senate can still acquit. Its really up to the Senate. Nothing binds their actions per-se.rwpag71 said:
Just to establish a base line that can be referred to at the end of the Senate process:
The RCP average to remove Trump from office is now 47.3%. At 538 that number stands at 46.9%.
Considering how many polls are polling 50% or higher Democrat, I would not put much faith in anything RCP is doing given the garbage polls out there.rwpag71 said:
Just to establish a base line that can be referred to at the end of the Senate process:
The RCP average to remove Trump from office is now 47.3%. At 538 that number stands at 46.9%.
Think of the Virginia demonstrations yesterday.Rapier108 said:Considering how many polls are polling 50% or higher Democrat, I would not put much faith in anything RCP is doing given the garbage polls out there.rwpag71 said:
Just to establish a base line that can be referred to at the end of the Senate process:
The RCP average to remove Trump from office is now 47.3%. At 538 that number stands at 46.9%.
Lev's receipts were just shown as evidence in the impeachment trial of Donald J Trump. He's being tried in the United States Senate for corruption, high crimes, and misdemeanors.FriscoKid said:
How are those receipts coming?YouIput a lot ofhoped the story would go away.
Chance Chase McMasters said:
Seized digital images of encrypted messages don't lie.
But you do. Every damn time you post.Chance Chase McMasters said:
Seized digital images of encrypted messages don't lie.
e=mc2 said:But you do. Every damn time you post.Chance Chase McMasters said:
Seized digital images of encrypted messages don't lie.
Chance Chase McMasters said:You don't sound like a constitutional lawyer. Here's the opinion of 500.hbtheduce said:titan said:
Oh, think see the distinction you are trying to make. For something to be unconstitutional doesn't require that it also be a crime.
It just is ruled unconstitutional ---not necessarily unlawful. This in the sense it is not about law but limits. Is that it?
It's even more fundamental than that. "A Law" has a definition. By definition, the constitution is not a law. Its two
different systems run and put into place by two different branches of government, voted on by two different groups, and governs two different groups.
Which is why chance is in a rhetorical pickle. Violating a law is a crime, by definition.
Violating the constitution is unconstitutional, by definition.
The other pickle he is in: Trump "violated" the constitution according to him. Fine but so has every president, and every congress, and every state since the founding. Which makes the grounds for removal look ****ing pathetic, which is why many constitutional scholars think there should be actual violations of laws and statutes. Even then it should be "high crimes" at the level of bribery or treason.
Giving away a state to another country probably would reach the level of treason, but is closer to sedition. But it's an extreme case he had to jump to, because the "violation of trust" amounts to not giving millions of dollars to a Historically corrupt country. WGAS. Obama droned American citizens fighting for ISIS. Who cares about a rounding error for Ukraine.
Sorry for bleeding all over this thread. But it's simple stuff.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2019/12/09/more-than-five-hundred-law-professors-write-a-letter-favoring-impeachment-what-effects-will-it-have/#4bd334cd37d9
Can you find one that says a statutory federal law must be violated in order for an impeachable offense to have been committed?
Quote:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land
Yep. And he won't stop because he's morally bankrupt.Rockdoc said:e=mc2 said:But you do. Every damn time you post.Chance Chase McMasters said:
Seized digital images of encrypted messages don't lie.
That's why he left the other thread. He got run out for lying.
Rockdoc said:e=mc2 said:But you do. Every damn time you post.Chance Chase McMasters said:
Seized digital images of encrypted messages don't lie.
That's why he left the other thread. He got run out for lying.
Rockdoc said:
Go read it
You lie on every post so there's really no need. All anyone needs to do is click your profile and read the lies. It must be awesome to be known for being dishonest!Chance Chase McMasters said:Quote:
won't stop because he's morally bankrupt.
Citation needed from you too.
And.....
Chance Chase McMasters said:Quote:
You lie on every post
Citation needed.
Aren't you a Trump supporter? Does lying bother you? It bothers me.
Maroon Dawn said:
Just a few more days and Gary Chance disappears forever
Still going to bump every stupid thing you've said for 200 pages
Chance Chase McMasters said:Quote:
You lie on every post
Citation needed.
Aren't you a Trump supporter? Does lying bother you? It bothers me.
