***** OFFICIAL TRUMP IMPEACHMENT THREAD *****

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What an excellent call.

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I'm gonna watch the first few minutes of the GOP time once the Dem whining is over. I think that's 9:45 CST.
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BuddysBud said:

MetoliusAg said:

Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.



If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.


Since when are you guilty until proven innocent here? Since Kavanaugh?

Why isn't Biden guilty until he proves himself innocent? Now Schiff obviously is guilty of child pornography until he proves himself innocent.

Nice precedent you want to set, Adolf.
Since the bulk of the Media became just simply Democrat advocates. Since you mention the man, it is also because the DNC-MSM have forgotten (apparently because Ivy League no longer teaches it accurately? - unknown) the SOCIALIST part of the term `nAZI' .
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Even Fox News' Bret Baier is so disgusted by Trump's behavior today that Bret is de facto asking the President, "Have you no decency left, sir? Have you no remaining sense of decency at all?"

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titan said:



Since the bulk of the Media became just simply Democrat advocates. Since you mention the man, it is also because the DNC-MSM have forgotten (apparently because Ivy League no longer teaches it accurately? - unknown) the SOCIALIST part of the term `nAZI' .
I get the Daily 202, a free item from the "revered" Washington Post. The content today? "...Three Immigrants Testify ...In Trump Impeachment Hearing.

And, inside the brief is this very balanced, unbiased comment by Post writer James Hohman:


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Xenophobia is a hallmark of Trumpism, and all three have faced intensely personal, sometimes nativist, attacks from the fever swamps of the pro-Trump right.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
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Oh no! Not Brett Baier!! How will Trump ever recover?!?!?!
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MetoliusAg said:

Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.
We're still waiting for you clowns to bring a witness or evidence that isn't 2nd hand hearsay or just an opinion. Trump has no burden to produce anything for this kangaroo court. You've got nothing, and if you were a man you'd admit it.
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Baier is another Idiot. Schiff facilitated any possible intimidation, and was the mechanism of it. Unless Yavonovich is omniscient.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Bayer is another Idiot. Schiff facilitated any possible intimidation, and was the mechanism of it.


Sympathetic witness because she seemed weak and a crybaby. Welcome Ford 2.0.
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MetoliusAg said:

Even Fox News' Bret Baier is so disgusted by Trump's behavior today that Bret is de facto asking the President, "Have you no decency left, sir? Have you no remaining sense of decency at all?"


No one in the media has any call to question anyone's decency anymore. Buncha pandering lying sh* tbags.
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MetoliusAg
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Well, now.

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MooreTrucker said:

MetoliusAg said:

Even Fox News' Bret Baier is so disgusted by Trump's behavior today that Bret is de facto asking the President, "Have you no decency left, sir? Have you no remaining sense of decency at all?"


No one in the media has any call to question anyone's decency anymore. Buncha pandering lying sh* tbags.
They are matched only by hard drug peddlers and traffickers in their toxic impact on the nation.
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Yes but how does it affect the people in the middle, all this poop slapping will have some sort of effect, what will that be?
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Too bad for him.
backintexas2013
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Trump pardon after he wins?
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Why? If he lied, he lied. I don't think a pardon for "loyal" actions is justified.

Scooter Libby and Martha Stewart survived their pointless deception consequences.
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Why wouldn't Trump be tweeting during this? He is who he is. This is his game. None of this is surprising to me.
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GCP12 said:

Oh no! Not Brett Baier!! How will Trump ever recover?!?!?!
Yeah, and what does Shep say? And Lemon? And Cooper? On the edge of my chair awaiting their most important take on this!!!!!! This could be the beginning of the end!
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MetoliusAg said:

1. Another rough day for Trump supporters who keep floating defense narratives, hoping that something will fly, and getting them shot to pieces.



2. If -- and at this point in time, it is still an "if" -- but if the alleged July 26 phone call between Trump and Sondland took place and included the language that has been described, then it implicates not only Trump but also Sondland. Thus, can't help but wonder:

-- Is Sondland's attny right this minute seeking some kind of immunity deal for his client?

-- Or will Sondland no-show for his public testimony?

-- Or will Sondland show up and take the 5th?

-- Or will Sondland do a John Dean?

3. It reportedly is a near certainty that Russia has a recording of the July 26 call between Sondland & Trump, again if the phone call occured as initial news reports have indicated.


You actually typed the words 'Obama was honest'

This is the most incredible thing I have ever seen typed. You MUST go read fintons judicial watch books.

I don't care much if you hate trumps personality. I don't care if you hate the republican platform. Even if you are a full tilt socialist, you need to understand what is really happening here.

And by typing that you demonstrate that you literally have no idea what is going on.

Obama was a compromised corrupt anti American plant and his administration was the least transparent and most corrupt in all of history. Worse than Benedict Arnold. Literally. Look up what Arnold did and compare.

Judicial watch exposed bush too, that's when they started. It's not a primarily partisan organization.

Bottom line what's at stake here is not politics. American politicians and bureaucrats have been corrupt to the absolute core and compromised and bribed by foreign powers since hw bush. Clinton's and Obama in particular.

Hate trump or not, he's an outsider to that and they will do anything to keep their corruption out of the spotlight.

This issue is literally the most significant issue since 1776 and 1861. It will define the future forever

Look up Schiff, his family, his money, his relationships.

Every American needs to reject this bull**** and get rid of almost every single senior politician and senior political appointed bureaucrat in dc.

If not it will be a very very ugly future.

If this charade were to actually achieve their goals things will get historically ugly.
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Brett Baier is anti-Trump, always has been.

He is just less insane about it.

You fail, just like always.
MouthBQ98
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Elizabeth..wouldn't the whistleblower have to testify to establish before the hearing that their allegations were based on heresay for the record?
MetoliusAg
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Hundreds of ex-DOJ prosecutors, defense attorneys, and law profs on twitter pointing this out.

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cbr said:

MetoliusAg said:

1. Another rough day for Trump supporters who keep floating defense narratives, hoping that something will fly, and getting them shot to pieces.



2. If -- and at this point in time, it is still an "if" -- but if the alleged July 26 phone call between Trump and Sondland took place and included the language that has been described, then it implicates not only Trump but also Sondland. Thus, can't help but wonder:

-- Is Sondland's attny right this minute seeking some kind of immunity deal for his client?

-- Or will Sondland no-show for his public testimony?

-- Or will Sondland show up and take the 5th?

-- Or will Sondland do a John Dean?

3. It reportedly is a near certainty that Russia has a recording of the July 26 call between Sondland & Trump, again if the phone call occured as initial news reports have indicated.


You actually typed the words 'Obama was honest'

This is the most incredible thing I have ever seen typed. You MUST go read fintons judicial watch books.

I don't care much if you hate trumps personality. I don't care if you hate the republican platform. Even if you are a full tilt socialist, you need to understand what is really happening here.

And by typing that you demonstrate that you literally have no idea what is going on.

Obama was a compromised corrupt anti American plant and his administration was the least transparent and most corrupt in all of history. Worse than Benedict Arnold. Literally. Look up what Arnold did and compare.

Judicial watch exposed bush too, that's when they started. It's not a primarily partisan organization.

Bottom line what's at stake here is not politics. American politicians and bureaucrats have been corrupt to the absolute core and compromised and bribed by foreign powers since hw bush. Clinton's and Obama in particular.

Hate trump or not, he's an outsider to that and they will do anything to keep their corruption out of the spotlight.

This issue is literally the most significant issue since 1776 and 1861. It will define the future forever

Look up Schiff, his family, his money, his relationships.

Every American needs to reject this bull**** and get rid of almost every single senior politician and senior political appointed bureaucrat in dc.

If not it will be a very very ugly future.

If this charade were to actually achieve their goals things will get historically ugly.
Correct. That is pretty amazing. It genuinely does look paid-for. Its just too out of reality.

Why can't any of the pro-impeachers see that it doesn't matter what they come up with, because you can always "find a crime" --- what they should instead look at is how negative the methods and motives of this political lynching have been from Inauguration Day. Of course they will eventually find a crime or wrong doing -- the Libertarians like the Rands have long settled this danger's reality. But with a Media that is really just incestuous propagandists for the anti-American clique, it just doesn't get emphasized enough: What should put-off is the naked power grab of it and negation of national process --- they won't even wait for the election.

Most are traitors, truly.
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MetoliusAg said:


Except there was no bribery, or even an attempt.

But keep earning that Share Blue money.
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Rapier108 said:

MetoliusAg said:


Except there was no bribery, or even an attempt.

But keep earning that Share Blue money.
What exactly is `Share Blue'?
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Just sat on a plane for 2 hours where everyone has access to watch tv on southwest. Only saw 2 people watching this event. Americans could care less about this sham of a process.
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You know how I know it wasn't bribery? Because the Left didn't start using that term until they figured out "quid pro quo" wasn't resonating and didn't invoke words from the Constitution. When Nancy in her presser yesterday pointed out that bribery was in the Constitution, I knew that bribery wasn't committed by Trump because they would have been using it at the start of this sham if it were true bribery.

The Dems are looking for anything to elevate the fact that they have nothing to an impeachable level. If asking a foreign head of state to help us out is bribery then every President has committed bribery.
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What exactly is `Share Blue'?
Used to be known as "Correct the Record" during the 2016 campaign. It paid people to go to forums, news websites' comment pages, social media, etc. to "correct" the "lies" that people were telling about Hillary. Tramp78 was a CTR poster who disappeared after the election.

They rebranded themselves as Share Blue and pay people to do the same thing now except it is to spread around the daily anti-Trump talking points.
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https://shareblue.com/

Progressive rag, philandering as journalism. Well-known for its far left activism and REEEEE.
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What was offered or solicited that is outside the standard norms of presidential constitutional powers to make and carry out treaties, negotiate with foreign governments, and carry out the law enforcement duties of the executive branch under the office of the president? The constitution grants broad powers in this area.

The USA stands to benefit if we seek a proper accounting of potentially unlawful occurrences involving US citizens in Ukraine. Requiring that potential corruption be investigated in terms of international treaty making or execution is a presidential power, like it or not.

It has been used questionably MANY times before and never was it used to rationalize a previous impeachment.
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The left ALWAYS distorts or bends or semantically manipulates the language of the law to reach their desired ends.
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Interesting.



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