If Joe Biden has any exculpatory witnesses and evidence. He should be offering that to the DOJ and Ukraine right now....

Thank god Trump pushed for the investigation to give Joe and Hunter a chance to clear their name.

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MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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Ah yes...

Until he presents evidence to prove his innocence, he will be presumed guilty...

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Wow! What a lying POS!

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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Since when are you guilty until proven innocent here? Since Kavanaugh?

Why isn't Biden guilty until he proves himself innocent? Now Schiff obviously is guilty of child pornography until he proves himself innocent.

Nice precedent you want to set, Adolf.

Obviously Trump is getting desperate.

Insert "winning" gif

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Ok Metolious- Since you're so certain Trump gets Impeached how about a little wager. I'll even make it interesting for you. I say Pelosi pulls the plug on the entire thing by next Wednesday.

How can you walk away from such an easy layup? Name the amount.

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I think the Dems are imploding but I'll bet a $100 donation to Trump's Campaign that she doesn't pull the plug or on or before the 20th.

Edit: on or before

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The 20th of when? And why is that date important?

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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Statesmanship my ass. That's just more grandstanding for the media to play with in this flea circus.

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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What an intellectually dishonest whench she is.

He released the transcript. No QPQ. No Bribery. Nothing.

Every Ukrainian that matters. No QPQ, no bribery, nothing.

Every person with 1rst hand knowledge of the situation. No QPQ, no bribery, nothing.

That have plenty of evidence to dismiss this farce if they really wanted to.

They don't. They are desperate to keep this smear campaign going because they know their chances of beating an incumbent President with the strongest economy in 50 years are slim to none.

That's all this is about. That's all it has ever been about.

Of course, now they aren't just going to fail to take the White House, but they are going to lose the House as well.

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MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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1) Get a computer
2) Open YouTube
3) Click on multiple videos of President of Ukraine denying any knowledge of Quid Pro Quo
4) Profit as a Country

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I always thought you had to prove guilt in America, not innocence...

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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So guilty until proven innocent. Didn't y'all try that against Kav? How'd that work out?

And majority of dems maybe but even some of those are back pedaling. Most Americans think this is the sham it is.

So deranged!

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Very true:

Nixon supporters in the House and Senate continued to impede the investigations and support Nixon and fight against impeachment right down to the end. It wasn't until the tapes were gotten away from Nixon via court order that most of the Nixon loyalists finally gave up supporting the criminal, corrupt felon occupying the WH.

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If only there were a transcript of Trump's call from people that were actually listening to the call it would sure clear things up as opposed to third and fourth hand hearsay from others!

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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This is Stupidship, not Statesmanship. Trump said he did nothing wrong, so prove that he did. What rock of stupidity did this Statemenship crawl out from under? And not that he needed to but Trump's the only one out of everybody who has actually provided exculpatory evidence. The transcript.

Now how about my wager? Put you money where your mouth is and let's be quick about it. This is crumbling faster than a sand castle at high tide. Pelosi might pull the plug over the weekend.

I've said this before but for the Dems they would require a 24x7 videography of Trump's last 20 years of his life ala the movie EdTV...non-stop footage of every second of his life to "prove his innocence" but I bet even that wouldn't be enough.

I'm sure Mad Cow would go off on a diatribe about how easily footage could be doctored, likely with the Russians help, of course.

But I try to present it this way to hopefully show the Dems how ludicrous it is to prove your innocence...anything you produce they will spin negatively. For instance, the infamous Cohen to Prague trip...didn't matter that he produced his passport and even was with his son on a baseball recruiting trip, I think at Stanford (can't remember), during the alleged timeframe. Nope, he could have flown to Germany and drove across the border.

Anyway, just another day in the life of TDS and Orange Man Bad!!!

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1. Another rough day for Trump supporters who keep floating defense narratives, hoping that something will fly, and getting them shot to pieces.

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Wait a minute. I'm sorry, but what the hell is this idiot talking about? (The Twitterer, not you, Met, but dude, use your brain).

A cum stained dress and Clinton lying under oath in front of the entire country is "hearsay."

Is the left really that stupid that they are repeating this obvious falsehood?

Is this bad, hawg? It sounds bad.

"Could," "probably." These words indicate a high probability that you GOT HIMMMMMM!

Another lolface just for good measure

Lest anyone forget as the tear fest is due to start in a couple hours, Yovanovich was monitoring her political enemies using state resources before she was fired.

Let's see if the GOP A-team brings up any of this, this morning (they've had plenty of time to document/research/get intelligence as to the verity of the reporting);

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Marie Yovanovitch, initiated a request for State Dept. officials to conduct surveillance on: Jack Posobiec, Donald Trump Jr., Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Michael McFaul (Obama's ambassador to Russia), Dan Bongino, Ryan Saavedra, Rudy Giuliani, Sebastian Gorka, John Solomon, Lou Dobbs, Pamella Geller and Sara Carter.
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Judicial Watch has obtained information indicating Yovanovitch may have violated laws and government regulations by ordering subordinates to target certain U.S. persons using State Department resources.

Yovanovitch reportedly ordered monitoring keyed to the following search terms: Biden, Giuliani, Soros and Yovanovitch. Judicial Watch has filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the State Department and will continue gathering facts from government sources.

Prior to being recalled as ambassador to Ukraine in the spring Yovanovitch reportedly created a list of individuals who were to be monitored via social media and other means. Ukraine embassy staff made the request to the Washington D.C. headquarters office of the department's Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs.

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Let's get this party started.

I do hope this thing winds up in the Senate, but I'm not sure the House Ds will let it get that far...

If it gets to the Senate, the Senate can subpoena anyone they want to testify...

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I do hope this thing winds up in the Senate, but I'm not sure the House Ds will let it get that far...

If it gets to the Senate, the Senate can subpoena anyone they want to testify...

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As can Trump's defense team.

The President gets to defend himself in a Senate trial by calling witnesses, and they won't have Schiff or Pelosi to block it there.

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the left really that stupid that they are repeating this obvious falsehood?

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yes

"Is it true that Trump hurt your swamp rat feelings and you quit because he doesn't respect you?"

Yes, impeach!!!

I keep hearing they "fought corruption ". Did they stop any of it?

It's 9:01 AM on November 15, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS...


and Jeffrey Epstein STILL didn't kill himself.

Yes the left is really that stupid.

Another Democrat pushing impeachment to hide her *****

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-ethics-committee-announces-probe-into-dem-reps-tlaib-hastings

Guess our resident "Share blue" folks are waiting on talking points this morning.

This news article came out a few days ago. I observed the 48 hr rule (times 2, even) on it, because clearly it is a data point which shouldn't be blindly accepted nor blindly discarded until more is known.

If Lev Parnas gave this message at Giuliani's direction to Zelensky's staff in May, as Parnas claims, then it is obviously very bad news for Giuliani, Trump, & Mulvaney.

Otoh Parnas might be lying in order to try & get an immunity deal. Time will tell.

The FBI and SDNY have the thankless task of trying to discern which, via their ongoing investigation.

She thinks she is way more important than she is

Great witness

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How's that for exculpatory evidence?