I haven't made a prediction on the election. There was a question as to what Trump's motivation is. Going against Pocahantes instead of Biden is the path of least resistance, it's logical to try to knock him out.

oldarmy1 said:

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So the reason Trump is late leaving for the rally is they are submitting a request for the Supreme Court to block the latest Tax Return release decision.

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Which everyone knew would be coming.

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The Dems have introduced Articles of Impeachment against every elected Republican starting with Reagan until now.

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Snopes says this is "Mostly False"

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What's True
Articles of impeachment were introduced against five of the six Republican presidents who have served since President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

What's False
Articles of impeachment were not introduced against President Gerald Ford; a handful of Democratic politicians filed articles of impeachment against President George H. W. Bush Sr. and President Ronald Reagan but their efforts did not receive the backing of the entire Democratic party; and the impeachment efforts against President Richard Nixon received bipartisan support.

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The Democrats tried to impeach Bush Sr 41?!! Must have sunk like a stone -- don't even remember. What total idiots. Surprising they didn't try Bush43 for trying to win a war. Is that saying also Eisenhower?

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FriscoKid said:

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The Dems have introduced Articles of Impeachment against every elected Republican starting with Reagan until now.

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Snopes says this is "Mostly False"

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What's True
Articles of impeachment were introduced against five of the six Republican presidents who have served since President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

What's False
Articles of impeachment were not introduced against President Gerald Ford; a handful of Democratic politicians filed articles of impeachment against President George H. W. Bush Sr. and President Ronald Reagan but their efforts did not receive the backing of the entire Democratic party; and the impeachment efforts against President Richard Nixon received bipartisan support.

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The Democrats tried to impeach Bush Sr 41?!! Must have sunk like a stone -- don't even remember. What total idiots. Surprising they didn't try Bush43 for trying to win a war. Is that saying also Eisenhower?

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They have filed articles of impeachment against every Republican president after Eisenhower, with the exception of Ford.

Thanks Dems

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They have filed articles of impeachment against every Republican president after Eisenhower, with the exception of Ford.

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Had he won in '76, they would have gotten around to it...for his pardon of Nixon most likely.

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They have filed articles of impeachment against every Republican president after Eisenhower, with the exception of Ford.

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Had he won in '76, they would have gotten around to it...for his pardon of Nixon most likely.

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Wow. That pretty much affirms the suggestion on the other thread that the impeachment process itself can be considered one of those rare failures of the original set-up. It doesn't seem to be that effective---tio amorphous in its definitions and prone to unscrupulous partisan use. A grand version of a national recall seems a better idea.

1. Another rough day for Trump supporters who keep floating defense narratives, hoping that something will fly, and getting them shot to pieces.

2. If -- and at this point in time, it is still an "if" -- but if the alleged July 26 phone call between Trump and Sondland took place and included the language that has been described, then it implicates not only Trump but also Sondland. Thus, can't help but wonder:

-- Is Sondland's attny right this minute seeking some kind of immunity deal for his client?

-- Or will Sondland no-show for his public testimony?

-- Or will Sondland show up and take the 5th?

-- Or will Sondland do a John Dean?

3. It reportedly is a near certainty that Russia has a recording of the July 26 call between Sondland & Trump, again if the phone call occured as initial news reports have indicated.

How much do they pay?

MetoliusAg said:

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1. Another rough day for Trump supporters who keep floating defense narratives, hoping that something will fly, and getting them shot to pieces.

2. If -- and at this point in time, it is still an "if" -- but if the alleged July 26 phone call between Trump and Sondland took place and included the language that has been described, then it implicates not only Trump but also Sondland. Thus, can't help but wonder:

-- Is Sondland's attny right this minute seeking some kind of immunity deal for his client?

-- Or will Sondland no-show for his public testimony?

-- Or will Sondland show up and take the 5th?

-- Or will Sondland do a John Dean?

3. It reportedly is a near certainty that Russia has a recording of the July 26 call between Sondland & Trump, again if the phone call occured as initial news reports have indicated.

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Again, there's a 0.0% chance he's convicted in the senate. Why should he do any of what you are asking?

The impeachment will fail because these proceedings sound like a UN conference. Tedious, boring conversation by some of the most boring petty people in america.

Nixon had a break in, in the middle of the night. People in masks with crowbars.

Clinton has a young intern blowing him in the Oval Office.

Heck Kav story had a high school boy shoving a girl onto a bed and dry humping.

Schiff tried to paint trump as a "godfather", but that needs murder, and family struggles. Schiff lost as soon as that framing didn't stick.

Face it, the Trump "crimes" are boring as ****.

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The impeachment will fail because these proceedings sound like a UN conference. Tedious, boring conversation by some of the most boring petty people in america.

Nixon had a break in, in the middle of the night. People in masks with crowbars.

Clinton has a young intern blowing him in the Oval Office.

Heck Kav story had a high school boy shoving a girl onto a bed and dry humping.

Schiff tried to paint trump as a "godfather", but that needs murder, and family struggles. Schiff lost as soon as that framing didn't stick.

Face it, the Trump "crimes" are boring as ****.

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Well, they're not crimes, so...

Until it's proven, I'm staying somewhat skeptical Sondland made the alleged July 26 phone call to Trump, because if Sondland made that call and then lied about it under oath, Sondland is in a lot of trouble.

Essentially it would mean Sondland = Fredo Corleone, the idiot Corleone son who couldn't even run a smalltime numbers racket or uniform laundry racket without screwing it up.

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Until it's proven, I'm staying somewhat skeptical Sondland made the alleged July 26 phone call to Trump, because if Sondland made that call and then lied about it under oath, Sondland is in a lot of trouble.


Essentially it would mean Sondland = Fredo Corleone, the idiot Corleone son who couldn't even run a smalltime numbers racket or uniform laundry racket without screwing it up.

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Whoa man. Watch it with these racial slurs.

Also you pretending like this is The Godfather doesn't make it any more interesting.

Ok Metolious- Since you're so certain Trump gets Impeached how about a little wager. I'll even make it interesting for you. I say Pelosi pulls the plug on the entire thing by next Wednesday.

How can you walk away from such an easy layup? Name the amount.

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Gary Johnson said:

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Sorry yo boy's dumb conspiracy theory lost and got him impeached.

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Gary. He didn't do anything wrong.

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Sure buddy. We'll revisit this when Bolton or Mulvaney flip.

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They would have to purger themselves and lie. They won't do that.

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Essentially it would mean Sondland = Fredo Corleone, the idiot Corleone son who couldn't even run a smalltime numbers racket or uniform laundry racket without screwing it up.

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What is the male pre-occupation with a Martin Scorsese movie about a Mario Puzo book? So 1970s that many here weren't even alive to understand?

Don't get me wrong here. Scorsese is an awesome filmmaker, one of the best ever. But at the end of the day, he's a filmmaker. Not a definitive voice. It is fiction even if roughly sourced on an eyewitness account.

Here's a newsflash: Scorsese doesn't do documentaries.

Sure little buddy. But what will they purge?

Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

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Guess she never checked with Schiff4brains because he flat out has refused that.

Or she is lying.

Try to be honest here, which is it?

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Hate to break it to you. They started planning his impeachment the day he was sworn in, before he did ANYTHING.

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IOW, exactly like the R's did with Obama and Bill Clinton and planned to do with Hillary. Y'all got Bill, and as I've stated repeatedly, HRC would have been impeached too.

Obama otoh was too honest and clean. Y'all tried but never found anything.

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Bull*****

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Like her bladder, Nancy isn't in controll of anything.

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Amen. POTD, EOT!

This thread updates more than the tears thread after another sip decommit or loss to purple baylor.

I can't keep up, but do they got'em yet?

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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1) Get a computer
2) Open YouTube
3) Click on multiple videos of President of Ukraine denying any knowledge of Quid Pro Quo
4) Profit as a Country

You know how you can tell that is went bad for Dems with their star witnesses?

They are saying they need to see other witnesses, but Trump won't let them. Wednesday should have been the kill shot with supporting evidence in future days. They look like Stevie Wonder playing PacMan.

Just look at the true believers on this thread.

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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The obvious result is a senate exoneration.





And I love how much that pisses you off.

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Impeachment related because this guy is a Schiff bestie.

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Rep. Adam Schiff and Dr. Hensel have been closely linked for years, with the LA Times describing the doctor as a "special guest" at Schiff's 50th birthday party in 2010. Schiff also handpicked Dr. Hensel to work with him on health care townhalls in California and has been the recipient of big dollar donations from the 71-year-old throughout his political career.

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This is fantastic. I seem to remember etc pushing evil people attract evil people. So now we have Schiff wanting naked pictures of Trump and a good friend wanting naked pictures of a little girl. Hope he flips on Schiff who has rumored to like little boys and he hasn't disproven those rumors.

All of a sudden CPL is cleaner than Schiff. Nice job dems.

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oldarmy1 said:

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Ok Metolious- Since you're so certain Trump gets Impeached how about a little wager. I'll even make it interesting for you. I say Pelosi pulls the plug on the entire thing by next Wednesday.

How can you walk away from such an easy layup? Name the amount.

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I think the Dems are imploding but I'll bet a $100 donation to Trump's Campaign that she doesn't pull the plug or on or before the 20th.

Edit: on or before

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Let's do it!

It pays to be rich. Schiff's buddy gets light bail

"He was booked into the Los Angeles Police Department's Metropolitan Detention Center and his bail was set at $5,000. His arraignment will be at a later date."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/11/14/ex-nbc-correspondent-bruce-hensel-arrested-for-asking-9-year-old-for-sexual-photos/amp/

Schiff can't deny knowing him.

MetoliusAg said:

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Excellent statesmanship by Speaker of the House Pelosi: she said it this morning on national tv to Trump: if you have any exculpatory witnesses or evidence, the impeachment investigation committee wants to see it.

If Trump has exculpatory witnesses and evidence, Trump can present it if he wants to avoid impeachment. Mulvaney, Perry, Eisenberg, Pompeo, Giuliani, Kupperman, and Bolton can testify.

But if Trump continues to withhold the subpoenaed evidence and doesn't want his key subordinates / eyewitnesses testifying, then it leaves the HoR and the majority of Americans with an obvious conclusion.

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Ah yes...

Until he presents evidence to prove his innocence, he will be presumed guilty...