The mental gymnastics the concerned moderates here employ to excuse Biden but condemn Trump is truly impressive.
Wait, not really. It is pathetic.
Wait, not really. It is pathetic.
Wildcat said:
This is all such a clown show. They lock the whole thing down, but everyone going and coming is known and magically there are reports of what whomever said in testimony.
TexasAggie_02 said:
43 pages and no one has pointed out that we have an "official" impeachment thread without any official impeachment proceedings?
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Morrison will also say that he did not necessarily view the president's demands as improper or illegal,
He's right. It wasn't, no matter how much the loonies want to pretend it wasGCP12 said:Quote:
Morrison will also say that he did not necessarily view the president's demands as improper or illegal,
I know I'm dredging up an old argument but here is proof that Shokin was going after the head of Burisma at the time he got canned. They had raided Zlochevsky's home and seized documents on Feb 2, 2016.Gary Johnson said:
The singular thread is that the PGO department was corrupt the whole time protecting oligarchs. The 2 sabotaged cases and 2 ongoing cars predate Hunter's involvement. Shokin wasn't investigating anybody especially Hunter Biden.
The EU and IMF called for Shokin's head in 2015, well before the JBiden's infamous 2016 trip he later bragged about.
Durham has probable cause to subpoena Vindman's testimony from Schiff, at a minimum, due to Vindman's connection to Chalupa's 2016 election activities in Ukraine.MouthBQ98 said:
Durham vs Impeachment Inquiry:
Who obstructs who if they get into conflict?
I would not be surprised if some Dems in the house don't get swept up in this mess sooner than later. The "whistleblower's" ID has pretty much been nailed down. Bring him in and then bring Schiff in, since he or his staff were privy to this complaint a few months earlier than announced.aggiehawg said:Durham has probable cause to subpoena Vindman's testimony from Schiff, at a minimum, due to Vindman's connection to Chalupa's 2016 election activities in Ukraine.MouthBQ98 said:
Durham vs Impeachment Inquiry:
Who obstructs who if they get into conflict?
aginlakeway said:
NSC's Senior Director for European Affairs Tim Morrison was on the Trump-Zelensky call and told the investigating committees, "I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed."
Oooooh! Gotta link for that? TIA.Rockdoc said:
Morrison also said Bill Taylor lied through his teeth.
I saw you're comment on Vindman (I want to call him Vinkman), and assume you're serious. I haven't had too much time to research him, but I know he's reasonably well decorated.aggiehawg said:Durham has probable cause to subpoena Vindman's testimony from Schiff, at a minimum, due to Vindman's connection to Chalupa's 2016 election activities in Ukraine.MouthBQ98 said:
Durham vs Impeachment Inquiry:
Who obstructs who if they get into conflict?
aggiehawg said:Oooooh! Gotta link for that? TIA.Rockdoc said:
Morrison also said Bill Taylor lied through his teeth.
Gathered information. White House logs, FARA filings and the like. Vindman, being a native Ukrainian and speaking both Ukrainian and Russian really gets around between his times at the embassies in Kiev and Moscow and his times both in and out of the White House. Between his State Department, White House, NSC and lobbyist contacts he's put himself at ground zero here.Quote:
Was you're comment about Vindman intuition, or gathered information? I suspect you're correct, I just haven't taken the time to look, and I'm always a lot more cautious throwing military folks under the bus.
Rockdoc said:
Sorry this blew up in your face (and your sock) too.