***** OFFICIAL TRUMP IMPEACHMENT THREAD *****

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3:22p, 10/25/19
The ONLY thing the Democrats might get out of this(if they actually get the GJ material) is something to smear Trump with. Otherwise the Mueller Investigation would have been more damning.
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In reply to will25u • 3:24p, 10/25/19
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will25u said:
The ONLY thing the Democrats might get out of this(if they actually get the GJ material) is something to smear Trump with. Otherwise the Mueller Investigation would have been more damning.
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3:27p, 10/25/19
Obama appointed judge of course.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 3:36p, 10/25/19
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Obama appointed judge of course.
I believe it is the same one that is over all the Mueller stuff. Hasn't changed.
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In reply to will25u • 3:43p, 10/25/19
will25u said:
Rapier108 said:
Obama appointed judge of course.
I believe it is the same one that is over all the Mueller stuff. Hasn't changed.
It is, one of them. The other is Amy Jackson.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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3:54p, 10/25/19
In Giuliani's two butt-dialed phone calls, he is recorded saying they have "to force" Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 3:57p, 10/25/19
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In Giuliani's two butt-dialed phone calls, he is recorded saying they have "to force" Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.
So? Rudy can say anything he wants. He could say Biden should be arrested tomorrow and it would mean nothing. His opinion of something is just that, an opinion. Not a crime no matter how much you want it to be.

And the recordings of course are being highly edited by NBC (something they're well known for doing) so without context, they mean nothing.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 4:02p, 10/25/19
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Then take the vote and impeach him. Please!
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In reply to leftcoastaggie • 4:04p, 10/25/19
They probably don't have anything of substance to refute.
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4:05p, 10/25/19
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It's 4:06 PM on October 25, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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4:05p, 10/25/19


<insert "booom!" meme here>

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In reply to MetoliusAg • 4:07p, 10/25/19
You already posted it on the previous page.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 4:08p, 10/25/19
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Etcetera you're getting frantically desperate.
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In reply to will25u • 4:09p, 10/25/19
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will25u said:
The ONLY thing the Democrats might get out of this(if they actually get the GJ material) is something to smear Trump with. Otherwise the Mueller Investigation would have been more damning.
That's all it's ever been about. The dems know they don't have anything on him. It's all a show.
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In reply to Gigem314 • 6:03p, 10/25/19
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will25u said:
The ONLY thing the Democrats might get out of this(if they actually get the GJ material) is something to smear Trump with. Otherwise the Mueller Investigation would have been more damning.
That's all it's ever been about. The dems know they don't have anything on him. It's all a show.
Disagree.
The GJ witness testimony opens the door to obstruction of justice being added as a separate Article of Impeachment.

Regarding your claim that it's just a show, the reason you believe that is because it is exactly how your own GOP-controlled HoR operates. Your current GOP HoR minority leader publicly admitted it about the GOP.
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Kevin McCarthy to Fox, 2015: "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee. A select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping."
Are the Dems willing to use the same dirty tactics the GOP uses? Sure. But that doesn't appear to be the case here.

Note the rapid pace of deposing the witnesses by the committee. If the Dems were merely intent on using the investigation to hurt Trump in the 2020 election, they would drag this investigation out for 8 to 12 months.

The reality is, the Dems are dead serious about investigating Trump's abuses of power and his other impeachable offenses.

If the evidence they uncover is sufficient, they will send Articles of Impeachment to the Senate as soon as the HoR investigation and subsequent impeachment process can be completed.

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In reply to MetoliusAg • 6:31p, 10/25/19
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I can't believe you are happy that the house gets grand jury testimony. They will for sure crucify an innocent person by just releasing crappy info. That should scare everyone but as long as orange man goes down all is good.
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6:32p, 10/25/19


On the full Twitter thread, Graham now has 50 Senators who are on the record supporting his resolution opposing the Democrat faux-impeachment push.

The three hold outs are exactly who everyone would expect.

Collins
Murkowski
Romney
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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11:19a, 10/26/19
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I have fallen behind with the ongoing impeachment efforts against Trump. I've now caught up only to discover the latest claims are Kavanaugh all over again. Purely he said/she said and based on 3rd and 4th hand at that. And actually more fake news than Kavanaugh because the evidence is already public and yet we are still hearing about this.

You have to be kidding me with this sh^t at this point. Democrats are f'ing evil.

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Anyway, according to Taylor's opening statement, this man who has never met or spoken with Trump, claims he heard third- and fourth-hand information proving there was a dastardly quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine: i.e., Ukraine gets no military assistance unless Ukraine publicizes the opening of an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

This is important because while the White House admits aid was delayed, the White House also claims there can be no quid pro quo when Ukraine did not know about the delay. What's more, because we have the transcript, we know for a fact the delay was not mentioned during Trump's July 25 phone call, and there is no evidence showing Ukraine knew about the delay prior to August.

But what you have here is Taylor saying he discovered through Morrison, who says he heard it from Sondland, that Trump outright told Sondland there was a direct quid pro quo, not just about Ukraine cleaning up its overall corruption problems, but directly attached to investigating the Bidens and Burisma, the shady energy company that paid Hunter Biden $50,000 a month a month! to sit on its board, even though Hunter has no experience with Ukraine or energy.
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In reply to YouBet • 11:55a, 10/26/19
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I have fallen behind with the ongoing impeachment efforts against Trump. I've now caught up only to discover the latest claims are Kavanaugh all over again. Purely he said/she said and based on 3rd and 4th hand at that. And actually more fake news than Kavanaugh because the evidence is already public and yet we are still hearing about this.

You have to be kidding me with this sh^t at this point. Democrats are f'ing evil.

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Anyway, according to Taylor's opening statement, this man who has never met or spoken with Trump, claims he heard third- and fourth-hand information proving there was a dastardly quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine: i.e., Ukraine gets no military assistance unless Ukraine publicizes the opening of an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

This is important because while the White House admits aid was delayed, the White House also claims there can be no quid pro quo when Ukraine did not know about the delay. What's more, because we have the transcript, we know for a fact the delay was not mentioned during Trump's July 25 phone call, and there is no evidence showing Ukraine knew about the delay prior to August.

But what you have here is Taylor saying he discovered through Morrison, who says he heard it from Sondland, that Trump outright told Sondland there was a direct quid pro quo, not just about Ukraine cleaning up its overall corruption problems, but directly attached to investigating the Bidens and Burisma, the shady energy company that paid Hunter Biden $50,000 a month a month! to sit on its board, even though Hunter has no experience with Ukraine or energy.
"I heard from a friend, who....heard it from a friend, who....heard it from another Trump was messing arou-ound....."
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11:57a, 10/26/19
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 1:27p, 10/26/19
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MetoliusAg said:
It's a serious abuse of Presidential power for a President to ask a foreign leader to criminally investigate his chief political opponent.


Obama and the Steele dossier say hi!
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 1:31p, 10/26/19
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Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
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In reply to hbtheduce • 5:58p, 10/27/19
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 6:21p, 10/27/19
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MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.

Its likely there is scandalous information/testimony that "looks bad" even though the GJ nor Mueller thought a crime was committed. Trump has a right to privacy just like every other american.

HoR isn't in a judicial proceeding. Unless you want to argue the HoR is ALWAY in an impeachment inquiry.
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 6:24p, 10/27/19
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MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.


How about the House vote for a true impeachment inquiry so that they are then entitled to the GJ material? Oh wait, Nancy doesn't want the Trump state Dems to have to vote.
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 6:39p, 10/27/19
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MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.
DC Circuit Court of Appeals made that call in the McKeever case. But I guess you would prefer that Barr just ignore the legally binding precedent and clear statutory law within the Federal Rules, eh?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 7:08p, 10/27/19
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aggiehawg said:
MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.
DC Circuit Court of Appeals made that call in the McKeever case. But I guess you would prefer that Barr just ignore the legally binding precedent and clear statutory law within the Federal Rules, eh?
Yeah...

The Dem are demanding that the Executive Branch BREAK THE LAW so that they can get what they want...

Pretty despicable...
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8:17p, 10/27/19
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They got nothing. Just more lies for the circus crowd. Can't wait for Nov. of 2020! Trump will roll and the fit throwing will continue by the wittle babies.
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 8:26p, 10/27/19
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MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.
So you want them to break the law? There's already appeals court case law that says GJ material can't be exposed like this.

And guess what? When this goes to the Supreme Court, they'll uphold said case law and your lib heros in the House will take another L.
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9:00p, 10/27/19


Can we file for divorce now or do we need to wait until after the impeachment?
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In reply to MetoliusAg • 9:00p, 10/27/19
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MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.
Why do they need it? Schiff says they have reams of impeachable offenses. Lets see them, big boy
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In reply to AgFan2015 • 9:01p, 10/27/19
Mr.Infectious said:


Can we file for divorce now or do we need to wait until after the impeachment?
Exactly what one would expect from the rot that lives in and around D.C.
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In reply to captkirk • 9:02p, 10/27/19
captkirk said:
MetoliusAg said:
hbtheduce said:
Mueller, the guy who conducted the GJ, couldn't even bring himself to call it obstruction.
Then Trump and Barr should stop trying to prevent the HoR from seeing the GJ material and the other witness depositions from the SCO investigation.
Why do they need it? Schiff says they have reams of impeachable offenses. Lets see them, big boy
He'll produce them at the same time he produces his Russian collusion proof.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:45a, 10/28/19
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Rapier108 said:
Mr.Infectious said:


Can we file for divorce now or do we need to wait until after the impeachment?
Exactly what one would expect from the rot that lives in and around D.C.
Houston needs to show up and represent. A MAGA, MAGA, MAGA, MAGA would be glorious in game 6.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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