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Another problem they're overlooking is the "ask" by itself was an impeachable offense

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The singular thread is that the PGO department was corrupt the whole time protecting oligarchs. The 2 sabotaged cases and 2 ongoing cars predate Hunter's involvement. Shokin wasn't investigating anybody especially Hunter Biden.

The EU and IMF called for Shokin's head in 2015, well before the JBiden's infamous 2016 trip he later bragged about.

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Another problem they're overlooking is the "ask" by itself was an impeachable offense

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Such delusional, insane, partisan, complete, bulls**t.

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MetoliusAg said:

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It's a serious abuse of Presidential power for a President to ask a foreign leader to criminally investigate his chief political opponent.

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Pinche Abogado said:

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MetoliusAg said:

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It's a serious abuse of Presidential power for a President to ask a foreign leader to criminally investigate his chief political opponent.

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Said the parrot. This is a lie. Trump did no such thing.

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MetoliusAg said:

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MetoliusAg said:

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It's a serious abuse of Presidential power for a President to ask a foreign leader to criminally investigate his chief political opponent.

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Said the parrot. This is a lie. Trump did no such thing.

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Trump was asked about it by a reporter, and he admitted it on camera. Mulvaney and Rudy have admitted it too.

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China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine,

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Pinche Abogado said:

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Quote in the transcript where Trump asked Ukraine to "criminally investigate." Furthermore, you do know that a treaty exists between the two countries, right? So, again, you're both wrong, and both right.

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MetoliusAg said:

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Pinche Abogado said:

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Quote in the transcript where Trump asked Ukraine to "criminally investigate." Furthermore, you do know that a treaty exists between the two countries, right? So, again, you're both wrong, and both right.

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In less than 5 minutes we've gone from you claiming Trump didn't do it to Okay, yeah, he did it, but it's okay for Presidents to ask leaders of foreign nations to investigate their political opponents.

Eventually the GOP party line will be: It isn't okay. In fact, it's actually quite wrong for a President to do that. But even though it is wrong, it doesn't quite rise to the level of impeachability.

It's the same lame rationalizing the Senate Dems used in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

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MetoliusAg said:

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Pinche Abogado said:

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Quote in the transcript where Trump asked Ukraine to "criminally investigate." Furthermore, you do know that a treaty exists between the two countries, right? So, again, you're both wrong, and both right.

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In less than 5 minutes we've gone from you claiming Trump didn't do it to Okay, yeah, he did it, but it's okay for Presidents to ask leaders of foreign nations to investigate their political opponents.

Eventually the GOP party line will be: It isn't okay. In fact, it's actually quite wrong for a President to do that. But even though it is wrong, it doesn't quite rise to the level of impeachability.

It's the same lame rationalizing the Senate Dems used in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

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MetoliusAg said:

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It's a serious abuse of Presidential power for a President to ask a foreign leader to criminally investigate his chief political opponent.

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It's Friday, October 25, and we still haven't #GotHim yet.

#AnyDayNow

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MetoliusAg said:

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Pinche Abogado said:

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Quote in the transcript where Trump asked Ukraine to "criminally investigate." Furthermore, you do know that a treaty exists between the two countries, right? So, again, you're both wrong, and both right.

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In less than 5 minutes we've gone from you claiming Trump didn't do it to Okay, yeah, he did it, but it's okay for Presidents to ask leaders of foreign nations to investigate their political opponents.

Eventually the GOP party line will be: It isn't okay. In fact, it's actually quite wrong for a President to do that. But even though it is wrong, it doesn't quite rise to the level of impeachability.

It's the same lame rationalizing the Senate Dems used in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

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It's a serious abuse of Presidential power for a President to ask a foreign leader to criminally investigate his chief political opponent.

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Oh, I must have missed him asking for Joe Biden to be investigated. And on Biden being his chief political opponent. Biden ain't even leading in the primary polls, and won't be the nominee.

And if this is a crime, then we do we string up Obama for doing the same thing in the run up to 2016? I mean justice is blind right?

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It's Friday, October 25, and we still haven't #GotHim yet.

#AnyDayNow

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Do we have two forum criers or is this a spotted ag sock?

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MetoliusAg said:

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As Napolitano noted, these aren't impeachment hearings. This is the precursor to impeachment hearings.

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As Napolitano noted, these aren't impeachment hearings. This is the precursor to impeachment hearings.

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So, the Democrats and you are lying when you refer to this an an impeachment inquiry.

Got it.

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As Napolitano noted, these aren't impeachment hearings. This is the precursor to impeachment hearings.

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So, the Democrats and you are lying when you refer to this an an impeachment inquiry.

Got it.

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The old semantics defense....I would say that we are pretty close to the bottom of the barrel at this point but I'm sure there is plenty more depth.

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As I've said before, the House Dems have to pass a resolution stating the HJC is doing inquiry into impeachment proceedings.
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There is nothing wrong with holding hearings behind closed doors as long as there is due process. During the Nixon impeachment much of the evidence was presented in closed-door sessions. But there was not a flood of leaks from those executive sessions, as we are seeing today. This unfairly colors the public narrative....now whether this blows up in the face of the majority is yet to be seen.

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Quote in the transcript where Trump asked Ukraine to "criminally investigate." Furthermore, you do know that a treaty exists between the two countries, right? So, again, you're both wrong, and both right.

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In less than 5 minutes we've gone from you claiming Trump didn't do it to Okay, yeah, he did it, but it's okay for Presidents to ask leaders of foreign nations to investigate their political opponents.

Eventually the GOP party line will be: It isn't okay. In fact, it's actually quite wrong for a President to do that. But even though it is wrong, it doesn't quite rise to the level of impeachability.

It's the same lame rationalizing the Senate Dems used in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

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He didn't ask them to investigate Biden, he asked them to investigate interference with the 2016 election, which is what the Dems have been supposedly doing with all this rheeeeeeeeeeeeee crap the last three years.

I know you're a dem bot/troll, but come on man.

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MetoliusAg said:

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MetoliusAg said:

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Pinche Abogado said:

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Quote in the transcript where Trump asked Ukraine to "criminally investigate." Furthermore, you do know that a treaty exists between the two countries, right? So, again, you're both wrong, and both right.

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In less than 5 minutes we've gone from you claiming Trump didn't do it to Okay, yeah, he did it, but it's okay for Presidents to ask leaders of foreign nations to investigate their political opponents.

Eventually the GOP party line will be: It isn't okay. In fact, it's actually quite wrong for a President to do that. But even though it is wrong, it doesn't quite rise to the level of impeachability.

It's the same lame rationalizing the Senate Dems used in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

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He didn't ask them to investigate Biden, he asked them to investigate interference with the 2016 election, which is what the Dems have been supposedly doing with all this rheeeeeeeeeeeeee crap the last three years.

I know you're a dem bot/troll, but come on man.

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Trump was asked about it by a reporter, and he said it in front of tv cameras on the WH lawn. The video clip is posted in this thread. Hth.

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Guessing this will be appealed.

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