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Spotted Ag spotted in the wild

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Naw, not a sticker fan. Only one I have is this...

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At some point, I pray that all Americans will wake up to the fact that for over a century now, we have all been nothing but pawns of the elite on both sides of the aisle...

Almost everything has been scripted for us, and our ignorance has been extreme...

Turns out, many things you have always believed were true may not have been, and it has all been by design to benefit the elites who want to rule the world...

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Partially correct. But you're still not seeing some things clearly. The Swamp has multiple factions, and there is a perpetual struggle among the elites.

The Conservative Elites want to turn the clock back to the 1890's. Roll back FDR's New Deal and TR's numerous reforms. Return us to a plutocracy.

The Moderate Elites (the Bush family, Clintons, Goldman Sachs, etc) want to maintain the New Deal and the post-WW2 US/UK-led hegemony: regulated capitalism, a partial safety net for poors and elderly, and international stability via the many constructs adopted post-WW2.

The Liberal Elites want a European-style "Socialist Democrat" utopia, a la Denmark. High taxes, lower military spending, universal health coverage, etc.

Not that it means anything.

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At some point, I pray that all Americans will wake up to the fact that for over a century now, we have all been nothing but pawns of the elite on both sides of the aisle...

Almost everything has been scripted for us, and our ignorance has been extreme...

Turns out, many things you have always believed were true may not have been, and it has all been by design to benefit the elites who want to rule the world...

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Partially correct. But you're still not seeing some things clearly. The Swamp has multiple factions, and there is a perpetual struggle among the elites.

The Conservative Elites want to turn the clock back to the 1890's. Roll back FDR's New Deal and TR's numerous reforms. Return us to a plutocracy.

The Moderate Elites (the Bush family, Clintons, Goldman Sachs, etc) want to maintain the New Deal and the post-WW2 US/UK-led hegemony: regulated capitalism, a partial safety net for poors and elderly, and international stability via the many constructs adopted post-WW2.

The Liberal Elites want a European-style "Socialist Democrat" utopia, a la Denmark. High taxes, lower military spending, universal health coverage, etc.

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Where does wanting to repeal the NFA and requiring a balanced budget fall on that spectrum? AFAF.

Good for Graham. As late as he is to the party, this is good. Keep telling the media they suck at their job. They'll get tired of it eventually or they'll get fired for lack of profitability.

There's a wee bit of difference between closed doors and SCIF rooms don't you think?

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There's a wee bit of difference between closed doors and SCIF rooms don't you think?

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Not like he cares about facts. He has to get those talking points posted.

And the president had his council present. And both parties could call witnesses. Try again.

Let me help you with he will reply. "Read the Mueller report". "Kav is guilty"

It's so tiresome.

I think it's awesome that they have forgotten totally about the Mueller report. They know it's a loser.

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After Republican members of the House literally stormed the gates of the impeachment hearings on Wednesday, Judge Andrew Napolitano stopped by Fox & Friends Thursday morning to deliver a harsh wake-up call: Democrats are just "following the rules"rules written by Republicans.

"I read the House rules," Napolitano said. "And as frustrating as it may be to have these hearings going on behind closed doorsthe hearings over which Congressman Schiff is presidingthey are consistent with the rules."

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He went to explain that those rules were last written in January 2015 when Republicans held the majority and the Speaker of the House was John Boehner.

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"The rules say that this level of inquiry, this initial level of inquiry, can be done in secret," Napolitano said, effectively dismantling the primary talking point of both Fox News and the Trump White House.

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As the Fox & Friends hosts continued to protest, he added, "I know this is going to sound weird, these are not the impeachment hearings. The impeachment hearings have to be held in public by the House Judiciary Committee. This is the initial interview of witnesses to see what they have to say, to determine whether or not they are even worthy of presenting evidence of impeachment."

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Why should he be impeached. Be specific with the crime.

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After Republican members of the House literally stormed the gates of the impeachment hearings on Wednesday, Judge Andrew Napolitano stopped by Fox & Friends Thursday morning to deliver a harsh wake-up call: Democrats are just "following the rules"rules written by Republicans.

"I read the House rules," Napolitano said. "And as frustrating as it may be to have these hearings going on behind closed doorsthe hearings over which Congressman Schiff is presidingthey are consistent with the rules."

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He went to explain that those rules were last written in January 2015 when Republicans held the majority and the Speaker of the House was John Boehner.

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"The rules say that this level of inquiry, this initial level of inquiry, can be done in secret," Napolitano said, effectively dismantling the primary talking point of both Fox News and the Trump White House.

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As the Fox & Friends hosts continued to protest, he added, "I know this is going to sound weird, these are not the impeachment hearings. The impeachment hearings have to be held in public by the House Judiciary Committee. This is the initial interview of witnesses to see what they have to say, to determine whether or not they are even worthy of presenting evidence of impeachment."

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As was posted on another thread, Nap is wrong again, but no surprise you are now pushing it.

Pelosi changed the rules as soon as she took over; this is documented.

But keep earning that Share Blue check.

So etcetera, do you think you're going to change somebody's mind about Trump here? Just curious because you preach so hard. Maybe you should work on your own mind.

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After Republican members of the House literally stormed the gates of the impeachment hearings on Wednesday, Judge Andrew Napolitano stopped by Fox & Friends Thursday morning to deliver a harsh wake-up call: Democrats are just "following the rules"rules written by Republicans.

"I read the House rules," Napolitano said. "And as frustrating as it may be to have these hearings going on behind closed doorsthe hearings over which Congressman Schiff is presidingthey are consistent with the rules."

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He went to explain that those rules were last written in January 2015 when Republicans held the majority and the Speaker of the House was John Boehner.

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"The rules say that this level of inquiry, this initial level of inquiry, can be done in secret," Napolitano said, effectively dismantling the primary talking point of both Fox News and the Trump White House.

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As the Fox & Friends hosts continued to protest, he added, "I know this is going to sound weird, these are not the impeachment hearings. The impeachment hearings have to be held in public by the House Judiciary Committee. This is the initial interview of witnesses to see what they have to say, to determine whether or not they are even worthy of presenting evidence of impeachment."

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As was posted on another thread, Nap is wrong again, but no surprise you are now pushing it.

Pelosi changed the rules as soon as she took over; this is documented.

But keep earning that Share Blue check.

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Seems like approx. 90% of your posts in this forum consist of trolling and/or posting lies about the texags posters who don't support Trump. Both of those posting behaviors are clear violations of texags posting rules. I don't receive any talking points and I'm not paid by anyone. You are making baseless lies.

If the Dems are violating the House rules, as you claim, please post your proof.

I mean it seems like a simple request.

For example, "Trump should be impeached because he obstructed justice when he told congress that WH officials were not going to comply with the subpoena." Or whatever you think the charge is that rises to the level of impeachment.

Just pick one. You are so smart, this should be easy for you. Pick the biggest crime and let us have it.

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What's the VERY FIRST WORD in the article you linked?

Oh and...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/24/nolte-gordon-sondland-says-william-taylors-most-damning-testimony-never-happened/

U.S. ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland disputes the most damning portions of Acting Ukraine Ambassador William Taylor's impeachment testimony.




A lot more at the link.

I haven't read every single post on this thread, so I may have missed this part of the topic.

Has anyone said that even if Trump DID have a Quid Pro Quo, I'm certain he didn't mean to do it. Isn't that what every gd leftist said since Hillary destroyed 30,000 e-mails and hammered the hell out of 12 cell phones?

So every Leftist, black hearted, cognitive bypass, Dem who's been here educating us on THEIR version of Constitutional guilt, can get the hell over it, as Trump didn't have intent, never had intent, and certainly didn't look like he had intent.

EOT

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I haven't read every single post on this thread, so I may have missed this part of the topic.

Has anyone said that even if Trump DID have a Quid Pro Quo, I'm certain he didn't mean to do it. Isn't that what every gd leftist said since Hillary destroyed 30,000 e-mails and hammered the hell out of 12 cell phones?

So every Leftist, black hearted, cognitive bypass, Dem who's been here educating us on THEIR version of Constitutional guilt, can get the hell over it, as Trump didn't have intent, never had intent, and certainly didn't look like he had intent.

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The evidence uncovered so far is very strong that there was a quid pro quo. But to be candid, it would simply be icing on the cake. Why? Because a Potus asking a foreign leader to interfere in the upcoming US election is sufficient for impeachment. And in addition to the phone call readout and Giuliani's incriminating admissions on tv, Trump himself has already confessed in public to doing that.

Schiff and the House Dems are doing right thing by adhering to their Constitutional duty: calling witnesses and gathering evidence, taking depositions, and investigating the full scope of the scandal that Trump, Giuliana, & Mulvaney were engaged in.

As Napolitano noted, these aren't impeachment hearings. This is the precursor to impeachment hearings.

Not just a river in Egypt

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As Napolitano noted, these aren't impeachment hearings. This is the precursor to impeachment hearings.

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As Napolitano noted, these aren't impeachment hearings. This is a desperate attempt by the libs to hurts Trumps re-election chances as it is the only pathetic hope they have of winning.

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FIFY

Every second the dems waste on this nonsense instead of passing liberal legislation is fine with me.

If the select committee chaired by Schiff and the rules & procedures the committee is following are a violation of House rules -- as you and the R's say -- then why haven't the R's asked for a ruling on it from the House's rules expert?

Why haven't those dip****s impeached him yet? They've been saying Trump has committed impeachable offenses for 3 years now. Do it, mf'ers!

Since when has criminal investigations been considered interference into an election?

Fusion GPS and the Obama FBI want to know....