aginlakeway said:
agjacent said:
I think the House will be voting on Articles of Impeachment by the end of the year - assuming Trump stops committing new impeachable offenses (such as the G7 contract) so the Dems can concentrate on the ones he's already committed.
I can understand being confident that Rs won't have the spine to actually remove him. I cannot understand thinking the Dems won't vote to impeach. Truly mind-boggling. If this describes you, I say this in all sincerity - step out of your right-wing bubble. Dems are serious as a heart attack about this. There *will* be an impeachment vote, and the House *will* vote to impeach Trump.
OK. What impeachable offenses has he committed?
OK. Then why don't the Dems vote to officially start the process?
OK. Then why don't the Dems vote to officially start the process?
What impeachable offenses? Um... I guess you're being sincere? Maybe you're trolling me? If you've watched the news at all, then you know damn well what impeachable offenses he's committed. You may disagree (and ultimately the senate will decide) but to pose the question in such a flippant way like you have no possible, earthly idea what things Trump has done that millions of people believe rise to the level of impeachment makes you look simple, tbh.
But in the interest of replying to you in good faith, here are some impeachable offenses off the top of my head - obstruction of justice, contempt of congress, abuse of power, and probably bribery too, if the Ukraine quid pro quo gets framed as Trump seeking a bribe.
Why don't the Dems hold a vote to officially start the process? Because they don't need to. I know that chaps Rs' asses, but it's the plain truth. The various standing committees are already empowered to investigate the incidents in question. Dems don't want this dragging out through the campaign season, no matter what your right-wing news echo chamber tells you. Dems want Rs on the record re Trump's impeachment so they can campaign on that. If Dems acquiesce to R demands to take this (completely unnecessary) vote, then Rs will clog up the process with stunts and shenanigans in an effort to keep the actual impeachment proceeding delayed until the election in November makes it moot (assuming Trump loses) and they never have to go on the record. I don't understand all this R whining about Dems using every advantage they have, as if Rs haven't done the same kinds of things in the past and wouldn't do the same kinds of things in the future.