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These time lines all line up too closely to be coincidental. All this outside and third party surveillance being used so that there would be no American fingerprints on this until they had no choice, so they spoofed the FISC with garbage to exploit the Section 702 program.

It's obvious they fabricated communications between trump and Russia to try and justify using Section 702 about queries

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And using other countries such as the UK and Italy to do their spying for them.

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That's the very reason I revisited the whole FVEY stuff earlier and the Hannigan departure from GCFHQ stuff

Another thing is these chat logs Durham has produced that are also showing tie ins with Dan Jones and that group as well. This conspiracy blanket just keeps getting bigger. Joffe chatting up Jones about this "project" is pretty amazing.

We all remember Dan J. Jones, he's former FBI also former intelligence committee investigator working for Feinstein and Mark Warner. And after Trump's election, Jones founded PQR, Penn Quarter Group, who continued the pursuit of goal to take out Trump. Then PQG hired Fusion GPS to help prove any scrap it could of the Steele's dossier.

So with all this activity in Feb 2017, when Sussman brings the CIA the manufactured data, Jones brought the same data to Senate Armed Services Committee. Then the Democrats on the committee commissioned Jones to investigate. Mark my words you'll see Durham has evidence, as late as Aug 2017, Jones was still working on it and wasn't working alone. And always remember the Statute of Limitations on Conspiracy starts with the last overt act, including cover-up.

Is that the same Dan Jones that worked with McCain? Or is it a different one?

(Sorry I used to know this crap, but I've slept since 2017.)

aggiehawg said:

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benchmark said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Just like I said a few days ago. What was the "common goal"? If that goal was criminal, the RICO box gets checked.

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I'll bite. Spitballing ...what could be a few criminal possibilities?

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In this case, the first is obviously manufacturing phony evidence (the white papers) and making false statements to law enforcement. Defrauding the government.

But there's something else from the timing that intrigues me. The FBI was employing contractors to conduct illegal FISA queries until Admiral Rogers shut it down in April 2016. Who were those contractors? GA Tech? Fusion? Perkins, Cooie? When they no longer had that access, did they manufacture evidence to pass to the FBI to continue to spy on Trump and those around him?

When Trump first filed that massive lawsuit against Hillary, I thought it didn't have a chance in hell from surviving a motion to dismiss. Still think it will likely be tossed but this stuff coming out from Durham provides so back up for that case.

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Everyone needs to read that sentence a few times and let it sink in.

Throwback Thursday, but on a Sunday.

NEW: Cabal Of Wealthy Donors Financing $50 Million Trump-Russia Investigation. Fusion GPS, Chris Steele and former Feinstein staffer Daniel Jones are doing the work. https://t.co/8Wxf9Un7K4 @dailycaller

— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) April 27, 2018

aggiehawg said:

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Is that the same Dan Jones that worked with McCain? Or is it a different one?

(Sorry I used to know this crap, but I've slept since 2017.)

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Are you thinking of David Kramer?

TRM said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Is that the same Dan Jones that worked with McCain? Or is it a different one?

(Sorry I used to know this crap, but I've slept since 2017.)

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Are you thinking of David Kramer?

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This guy:

That's the same Dan Jones, but he wasn't ever a McCain aide.

Kramer was the former McCain aide that also got sent the Dossier.

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That's the same Dan Jones, but he wasn't ever a McCain aide.

Kramer was the former McCain aide that also got sent the Dossier.

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Aahh, brain cell finally fired. You are correct.

My bad.

aggiehawg said:

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Is that the same Dan Jones that worked with McCain? Or is it a different one?

(Sorry I used to know this crap, but I've slept since 2017.)

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He didn't work for McCain but him and McCain became really close when Jones was heading up the enhanced interrogation investigations.

He did team up with John Weaver at Penn Quarter Group and Weaver was McCain's chief of staff

Is Durham's net going to hold all these fish???

Thank you! I thought there was some connection but couldn't remember the details.

McCain was such a dewsh in so many ways. I had to have several stiff drinks to even vote for him...on the day of the election...and I am always and early voter...and my polling place was three doors down on the corner...I walked there in one minute...at 6:45 PM.

Jones is being protected

Good luck with that. pic.twitter.com/aZ9oZYCSYz

— Brennan’sOrangeJumpsuit (@15poundstogo) April 24, 2022

-Mook, Podesta and DNC washed their hands, basically saying that Elias was running things
-Perkins said that Elias started his own company and took all the docs
-Fusion said everything was privileged but crucially cited Elias as proof
-Elias redacted big chunks of his declaration

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) April 24, 2022

sicandtiredTXN said:

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He did team up with John Weaver at Penn Quarter Group and Weaver was McCain's chief of staff

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That's right. The same John Weaver of the anti-American Lincoln Project fame. These disgusting pieces of **** sure do get around.

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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He did team up with John Weaver at Penn Quarter Group and Weaver was McCain's chief of staff

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That's right. The same John Weaver of the anti-American Lincoln Project fame. These disgusting pieces of **** sure do get around.

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Yep and now Weaver has been accused of sexually harassing more than a dozen men, including some connected to the Lincoln Project.

Not getting my hopes up too high.

I don't want to stoke the 🔥 too much, but I'm pretty sure the Durham drop tomorrow is going to be an absolute Moab. Cooper needs to see what these $hitbags have been hiding.

I'm pretty convinced its so bad, Elias will pull out every stop perhaps even not comply.

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) April 25, 2022

He is a ****bag of the highest degree.

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Is Durham's net going to hold all these fish???

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Only when they are dead fish.

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will25u said:

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-Mook, Podesta and DNC washed their hands, basically saying that Elias was running things
-Perkins said that Elias started his own company and took all the docs
-Fusion said everything was privileged but crucially cited Elias as proof
-Elias redacted big chunks of his declaration

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) April 24, 2022

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Elias going down would take out the Democrats' best lawfare attorney. Not only was he behind much of the Trump-Russia bull****, he is the lead man on the 2020 election theft by getting judges to change the law in most of the battleground states.

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I cannot say what I wish would happen to that piece of *****

IANAL
Am I right the lawyers trying to prevent the documents being subpoenaed by Durham seem to be some of the same lawyers involved in the conspiracy?

If so, does this extend the statute of limitations in furtherance of the conspiracy?

Pardon my ignorance.

Yes Ma'am, I know!

richardag said:

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IANAL
Am I right the lawyers trying to prevent the documents being subpoenaed by Durham seem to be some of the same lawyers involved in the conspiracy?

If so, does this extend the statute of limitations in furtherance of the conspiracy?

Pardon my ignorance.

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Technically no because these attorneys involved are being represented by other attorneys who aren't involved in it even though the privilege claims are being made by the actual attorneys involved.

That's circular as hell but you get my drift I hope

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richardag said:

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IANAL
Am I right the lawyers trying to prevent the documents being subpoenaed by Durham seem to be some of the same lawyers involved in the conspiracy?

If so, does this extend the statute of limitations in furtherance of the conspiracy?

Pardon my ignorance.

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Technically no because these attorneys involved are being represented by other attorneys who aren't involved in it even though the privilege claims are being made by the actual attorneys involved.

That's circular as hell but you get my drift I hope

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Thanks for the response.

When does the timing of the FBI conclusion of the Clinton email scandal impact the conspiracy charges?

Does that matter at all or is it just an event and not one to really consider/worry about?

Letter: No, Hillary Clinton Can’t Try To Hide 2016 Oppo Research From The Special Counsel https://t.co/9hEVal0s5U

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) April 25, 2022

will25u said:

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-Mook, Podesta and DNC washed their hands, basically saying that Elias was running things
-Perkins said that Elias started his own company and took all the docs
-Fusion said everything was privileged but crucially cited Elias as proof
-Elias redacted big chunks of his declaration

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) April 24, 2022

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Why would Elias be the "biggest fish"? Even if Elias concocted the entire scheme on his own as a way to discredit Trump and get Hillary elected (and further line his pockets, no doubt), there had to have been tacit approval of the scheme from HRC and others high up in her campaign. Just curious.

Muy said:

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How much money did Mueller waste playing this sham out and ultimately "finding nothing?"

Mueller should be in prison.

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Mueller didn't run anything.

Weissmann was fully in charge, as the decrepit mueller conclusively showed when he finally testified. A guy so scummy even his buddy who is a judge, from his enron prosecution days, told him to knock it off.

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Why would Elias be the "biggest fish"? Even if Elias concocted the entire scheme on his own as a way to discredit Trump and get Hillary elected (and further line his pockets, no doubt), there had to have been tacit approval of the scheme from HRC and others high up in her campaign. Just curious.

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It's a question of bullet-proof evidence. Everyone knows HRC and her staff approved the hoax but proof beyond a reasonable doubt is the challenge.

Muy said:

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How much money did Mueller waste playing this sham out and ultimately "finding nothing?"

Mueller should be in prison.

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This is jmiller's cue to say he determined Manafort shared polling data with a guy from Russian intelligence. J always ignores the fact the guy was Manafort's long time business partner who denies any connection to Russian intelligence. Hey, it was blasted repeatedly on MSNBC and CNN, so it has to be true.

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will25u said:

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Why would Elias be the "biggest fish"? Even if Elias concocted the entire scheme on his own as a way to discredit Trump and get Hillary elected (and further line his pockets, no doubt), there had to have been tacit approval of the scheme from HRC and others high up in her campaign. Just curious.

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That has to do with the approximate 32 emails from GCF that they are fighting to not be released.