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akm91 said:

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The Durham investigation has shown that the biggest threat to our democracy is not some foreign country, but rather the Power Elite led by the likes of Hillary Clinton and her co-conspirators in the mainstream media & security state who work to undermine our democracy from within

— Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) February 15, 2022

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Interesting coming from one of Klaus Schwab's "Young Global Leaders."

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Tulsi has no reason at all to like Hillary and has always been pretty intellectually honest when it comes to criticizing what the bad actors on the left are doing. I disagree with her vehemently on quit a few of her policy positions, but she appears to be an honorable person, which is rare in the politicians on the left.

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LOL, Hillary said she was a Russian asset

aggiehawg said:

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Not sure Durham gets to charges against Sullivan. Marc Elias might be the top name embroiled with criminal charges.

Obviously I would much prefer they (in the words of Hillary) "all hang" but there is no justice for those elites. Elias is out of Perkins now. He's still powerful but doesn't have near the size of a fortressed castle as he once did.

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Not optimal, but I suppose I could live with that - provided Marc Elias is indicted as one of many in a criminal fraud conspiracy. What I can't live with is a Durham congressional report explaining how HRC pulled off the dirtiest political trick in US history for the price of only a few perjury crimes.

sicandtiredTXN said:

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Anyone actually being honest about all this will openly admit, we will never see Hillary, Joe, or Barry, in cuffs or even close to being indicted, it's just not going to happen, regardless of what Durham does and whoever he's able to flip. Trump's joke about shooting someone in time square and getting away with it, is doubly true for the top tier in DC. The Fox pundits will make a lot of hay off trying to make people think they will, but it's just going to sell books and commercial airtime.

I'll l settle for political ruination, and huge financial losses, and be happy with that. There's still way too big of a percentage of liberal sheep that can never be convince anything that was done to Trump is wrong, they will never bulge and it's a waste of time to think they will ever pull their heads outta their asses and wise up, because they don't want to.

Lock up the lower level people involved, if they get as high up as Sullivan that would be huge. But getting them out of the political mix is a win.

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Dont agree at all. Hillary is going to prison.

A conspiracy is going to be charged. And the DNC hack will be traced back to Sussmann and Joffe. At that point the burden of proof is low for those committing overt acts.

Hope you are right.

RyanM58699717 said:

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A conspiracy is going to be charged. And the DNC hack will be traced back to Sussmann and Joffe. At that point the burden of proof is low for those committing overt acts.

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greetings, rookie. How did you find us?

Already addressed a page or two back.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Making sure to discredit Durham because he was "appointed during the Trump administration."

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Not to mention, when the MSM refer to what Durham is bringing forward in his indictments, etc they say "alleged". But for years and years, the MSM took whatever random yoohoo's in Congress, Mueller, etc as gospel but didn't throw the "alleged" qualifier in.

Really is dispicable.

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Kinda like the way they report what trump says Va Biden or Obama.

When they report a Biden assertion they just say Today Biden said ….

Then when it's trump the way
Today Trump said -… but without any proof

RyanM58699717 said:

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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Anyone actually being honest about all this will openly admit, we will never see Hillary, Joe, or Barry, in cuffs or even close to being indicted, it's just not going to happen, regardless of what Durham does and whoever he's able to flip. Trump's joke about shooting someone in time square and getting away with it, is doubly true for the top tier in DC. The Fox pundits will make a lot of hay off trying to make people think they will, but it's just going to sell books and commercial airtime.

I'll l settle for political ruination, and huge financial losses, and be happy with that. There's still way too big of a percentage of liberal sheep that can never be convince anything that was done to Trump is wrong, they will never bulge and it's a waste of time to think they will ever pull their heads outta their asses and wise up, because they don't want to.

Lock up the lower level people involved, if they get as high up as Sullivan that would be huge. But getting them out of the political mix is a win.

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Dont agree at all. Hillary is going to prison.

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Dream on.

When Hillary walks on having bonafide hard evidence of having, tens of thousands of Classified emails, including signals intelligence, TS/SPC intelligence, on a unsecured non governmental private server located in a bathroom in her basement has a non citizen housekeeper handling, faxing literal pages of the PDB over unsecured phone lines, four four years, you are dreaming if you think some conspiracy charge is going to be brought up on her. It is never going to happen

Her political ruin and financial bankruptcy will be a huge win and if she brings down the entire party that would be a bonus. The problem with that is, 40% of this country are total blind sheep to the left, and that will never change their minds. The media will self destruct before they turn on the left, that's an absolute fact. Barry Hillary and Joe are untouchable as far as criminal charges, you can believe whatever you want. Bill Barr never went there for a reason. Elmer Fudd before him recused himself for being AG all together. There is no Rooster Cogburn that will take the reins in his teeth and take on the swamp elite.

Learn to live with that FACT

I live w/ the fact.

However, "new media" are are all in on Killary.

IMO, Barry is more culpable and new media should at least troll it.

Protect the "legacy"...

sicandtiredTXN said:

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RyanM58699717 said:

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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Anyone actually being honest about all this will openly admit, we will never see Hillary, Joe, or Barry, in cuffs or even close to being indicted, it's just not going to happen, regardless of what Durham does and whoever he's able to flip. Trump's joke about shooting someone in time square and getting away with it, is doubly true for the top tier in DC. The Fox pundits will make a lot of hay off trying to make people think they will, but it's just going to sell books and commercial airtime.

I'll l settle for political ruination, and huge financial losses, and be happy with that. There's still way too big of a percentage of liberal sheep that can never be convince anything that was done to Trump is wrong, they will never bulge and it's a waste of time to think they will ever pull their heads outta their asses and wise up, because they don't want to.

Lock up the lower level people involved, if they get as high up as Sullivan that would be huge. But getting them out of the political mix is a win.

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Dont agree at all. Hillary is going to prison.

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Dream on.

When Hillary walks on having bonafide hard evidence of having, tens of thousands of Classified emails, including signals intelligence, TS/SPC intelligence, on a unsecured non governmental private server located in a bathroom in her basement has a non citizen housekeeper handling, faxing literal pages of the PDB over unsecured phone lines, four four years, you are dreaming if you think some conspiracy charge is going to be brought up on her. It is never going to happen

Her political ruin and financial bankruptcy will be a huge win and if she brings down the entire party that would be a bonus. The problem with that is, 40% of this country are total blind sheep to the left, and that will never change their minds. The media will self destruct before they turn on the left, that's an absolute fact. Barry Hillary and Joe are untouchable as far as criminal charges, you can believe whatever you want. Bill Barr never went there for a reason. Elmer Fudd before him recused himself for being AG all together. There is no Rooster Cogburn that will take the reins in his teeth and take on the swamp elite.

Learn to live with that FACT

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Was her housekeeper Chinese?

Tibbers said:

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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RyanM58699717 said:

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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Anyone actually being honest about all this will openly admit, we will never see Hillary, Joe, or Barry, in cuffs or even close to being indicted, it's just not going to happen, regardless of what Durham does and whoever he's able to flip. Trump's joke about shooting someone in time square and getting away with it, is doubly true for the top tier in DC. The Fox pundits will make a lot of hay off trying to make people think they will, but it's just going to sell books and commercial airtime.

I'll l settle for political ruination, and huge financial losses, and be happy with that. There's still way too big of a percentage of liberal sheep that can never be convince anything that was done to Trump is wrong, they will never bulge and it's a waste of time to think they will ever pull their heads outta their asses and wise up, because they don't want to.

Lock up the lower level people involved, if they get as high up as Sullivan that would be huge. But getting them out of the political mix is a win.

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Dont agree at all. Hillary is going to prison.

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Dream on.

When Hillary walks on having bonafide hard evidence of having, tens of thousands of Classified emails, including signals intelligence, TS/SPC intelligence, on a unsecured non governmental private server located in a bathroom in her basement has a non citizen housekeeper handling, faxing literal pages of the PDB over unsecured phone lines, four four years, you are dreaming if you think some conspiracy charge is going to be brought up on her. It is never going to happen

Her political ruin and financial bankruptcy will be a huge win and if she brings down the entire party that would be a bonus. The problem with that is, 40% of this country are total blind sheep to the left, and that will never change their minds. The media will self destruct before they turn on the left, that's an absolute fact. Barry Hillary and Joe are untouchable as far as criminal charges, you can believe whatever you want. Bill Barr never went there for a reason. Elmer Fudd before him recused himself for being AG all together. There is no Rooster Cogburn that will take the reins in his teeth and take on the swamp elite.

Learn to live with that FACT

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Was her housekeeper Chinese?

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Filipino with seriously questionable immigration status

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As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton routinely asked her maid to print out sensitive government emails and documents including ones containing classified information from her house in Washington, DC, emails and FBI memos show. But the housekeeper lacked the security clearance to handle such material.

In fact, Marina Santos was called on so frequently to receive emails that she may hold the secrets to emailgate if only the FBI and Congress would subpoena her and the equipment she used.
Clinton entrusted far more than the care of her DC residence, known as Whitehaven, to Santos. She expected the Filipino immigrant to handle state secrets, further opening the Democratic presidential nominee to criticism that she played fast and loose with national security.

Clinton would first receive highly sensitive emails from top aides at the State Department and then request that they, in turn, forward the messages and any attached documents to Santos to print out for her at the home.

Among other things, Clinton requested that Santos print out drafts of her speeches, confidential memos and "call sheets" background information and talking points prepared for the secretary of state in advance of a phone call with a foreign head of state.

"Pls ask Marina to print for me in am," Clinton emailed top aide Huma Abedin regarding a redacted 2011 message marked sensitive but unclassified.

In a classified 2012 email dealing with the new president of Malawi, another Clinton aide, Monica Hanley, advised Clinton, "We can ask Marina to print this."
"Revisions to the Iran points" was the subject line of a classified April 2012 email to Clinton from Hanley. In it, the text reads, "Marina is trying to print for you."

Both classified emails were marked "confidential," the tier below "secret" or "top secret."
Santos also had access to a highly secure room called an SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) that diplomatic security agents set up at Whitehaven, according to FBI notes from an interview with Abedin.

From within the SCIF, Santos who had no clearance "collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton," the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies via the secure fax.

A 2012 "sensitive" but unclassified email from Hanley to Clinton refers to a fax the staff wanted Clinton "to see before your Netanyahu mtg. Marina will grab for you."

Yet it appears Clinton was never asked by the FBI in its yearlong investigation to turn over the iMac that Santos used to receive the emails, or the printer she used to print out the documents, or the printouts themselves.

As The Post first reported, copies of Clinton's 33,000 allegedly destroyed emails still exist in other locations and could be recovered if investigators were turned loose to seize them. Higher-ups at the Justice Department reportedly have blocked them from obtaining search warrants to obtain the evidence.

It also appears the FBI did not formally interview Santos as a key witness in its investigation.
This is a major oversight: Santos may know the whereabouts of a missing Apple MacBook laptop and USB flash drive that contain all of Clinton's emails archived over her four years in office.
In 2013, Hanley downloaded Clinton's emails from her private server to the MacBook and flash drive.
"The two copies of the Clinton email archive (one on the archive laptop and one on the thumb drive) were intended to be stored in Clinton's Chappaqua and Whitehaven residences," the FBI said in its case summary.

But Hanley says the devices were "lost," and the FBI says it "does not have either item in its possession."

In addition to Abedin, Santos worked closely with Hanley at Whitehaven and could shed light on the mystery if only she were asked about it.

When a Post reporter confronted Santos at her DC apartment Friday, she would say only, "I don't speak to reporters."

According to a 2010 profile in The Philippine Star, close Clinton friend Vernon Jordan recommended Santos to the Clintons after she worked part-time for him.
Bill Clinton gave a speech in Manila as part of his foundation and took time to visit with the family of the "mayordoma [housekeeper] of his Washington, DC, home Marina Santos."
He was quoted as describing Santos as the "wonderful woman who runs our home in Washington, without whom Hillary will not be able to serve as secretary of state." The article ended remarking, without a hint of irony: "Marina now runs his house so that he and his wife can better serve interests higher than their own."

Santos could turn out to be the Betty Currie of the Clinton email scandal.

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https://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton-directed-her-maid-to-print-out-classified-materials/

Two intriguing points about the Durham allegations https://t.co/1WNZ74E78r

— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) February 16, 2022

Even if Durham can't get Hillary, does anybody think we can, at least, get an unindicted co-conspirator tag for her?

Great read. Thanks for sharing. The HRC speculation is intriguing - albeit unlikely. However, if someone (anyone) in HRC's immediate orbit (campaign staffer) is indicted - the implications would suddenly become explosive.

American Thinker: Two intriguing points about the Durham allegations

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Finally, what about Hillary? This Daily Mail article says that the press is starting to ask her questions about spying on Trump, but she's not answering. When last we heard from Hillary, she was making noises about running again in 2024, a surprisingly reasonable thing to do considering that no one wants Biden or Kamala or, although he wishes it were otherwise, Pete Buttigieg.

However, with the Durham revelations, my guess is that the Democrats will offer Hillary up as a sacrificial lamb for the party. She'll be asked to take responsibility with the promise that she'll get no prison time. Instead, she'll just retire from the public eye, having taken one for the party and protected both the Sainted Barack Obama and the current White House occupant.

The problem with this theory is that it's hard to see Hillary going down quietly. There's a meme circulating that quotes Hillary saying that, if she goes down, she'll take everyone else down with her. In fact, she never said that but it's just the kind of thing she'd do.

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The whole lot of them have a foul stench and need to be tossed away. RINOS are undoubtedly part of this as well.

IMO, Durham is only just revealing that he's at the tip of the massive iceberg. I could see this lasting until there's a change in 2024 and hopefully a DoJ worth a damn.

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The whole lot of them have a foul stench and need to be tossed away. RINOS are undoubtedly part of this as well.

IMO, Durham is only just revealing that he's at the tip of the massive iceberg. I could see this lasting until there's a change in 2024 and hopefully a DoJ worth a damn.

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Jim Jordan is setting on full Launch when the House flips and he takes over the House Judiciary, and the Penguin is force to set there and drool as payback for the way they treated him is coming. The HJC and the HPCOI is going to be on fire and going to be if full force. Hunter Biden will disappear into rehab or something

As much as I'd like to believe that, I fully expect an orchestrated distraction by someone like Schiff who releases a memo full of lies and innuendo about Jordan that the MSM runs with.

Recall what Schiff did when Nunes was about to release his report a few years ago: Schiff made a bunch of unsubstantiated allegations - knowing they were all lies - but it required Nunes to step aside from his committee seat for a few months, which was long enough for the news cycle to move on to the next shiny object.

If I were Durham (praise God, I'm not)...I'd go hard after the one with the most to lose and have an aide or confidant go public with it on a national scale.

sicandtiredTXN said:

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It's just amazing with all the spying on Trump and the Trump administration and the Trump organization it's just amazing that under all that scrutiny and all that digging and all those attempts to take him down he came out the other in relatively unscaved it's just amazing. There's no way any of these career politicians could withstand that on slot Trump has to be cleaner than a Safeway chitlin.

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This is my biggest take away also.

What continues to bother me is that if Durham truly had something that would take down elite dems, they would have a way to totally shut him down. Are they willing to let some small fish fry in order to make this go away? The media knows all too well how to make all this disappear.

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What continues to bother me is that if Durham truly had something that would take down elite dems, they would have a way to totally shut him down. Are they willing to let some small fish fry in order to make this go away? The media knows all too well how to make all this disappear.

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There is always the possibility of Biden going full Saturday Night Massacre and firing Durham. The chances of that happening increase as Biden's poll numbers go down and his running again becomes next to impossible. Nothing to lose for his future political goals. Do it before Harris takes over so she doesn't have that on her record.

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There is always the possibility of Biden going full Saturday Night Massacre and firing Durham. The chances of that happening increase as Biden's poll numbers go down and his running again becomes next to impossible. Nothing to lose for his future political goals. Do it before Harris takes over so she doesn't have that on her record.

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He does that, they are sure to lose even more seats in November and the investigation hearings will be non-stop for the following two years. He's better off (IMHO) letting Durham scapegoat a bunch of functionaries.

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There is always the possibility of Biden going full Saturday Night Massacre and firing Durham. The chances of that happening increase as Biden's poll numbers go down and his running again becomes next to impossible. Nothing to lose for his future political goals. Do it before Harris takes over so she doesn't have that on her record.

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He does that, they are sure to lose even more seats in November and the investigation hearings will be non-stop for the following two years. He's better off (IMHO) letting Durham scapegoat a bunch of functionaries.

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He won't fire him before the midterms.

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There is always the possibility of Biden going full Saturday Night Massacre and firing Durham. The chances of that happening increase as Biden's poll numbers go down and his running again becomes next to impossible. Nothing to lose for his future political goals. Do it before Harris takes over so she doesn't have that on her record.

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He does that, they are sure to lose even more seats in November and the investigation hearings will be non-stop for the following two years. He's better off (IMHO) letting Durham scapegoat a bunch of functionaries.

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I also think this is the whole reason Mueller was allowed to flounder around for no reason for so long by Trump

That or they're waiting to see how high up the chain of command Durham targets so that Biden/his handlers know who to pardon.

Either way the MSM will 100% blackout the coverage other than a cursory "this was a 100% partisan investigation therefore we will not mention it ever again".

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What continues to bother me is that if Durham truly had something that would take down elite dems, they would have a way to totally shut him down. Are they willing to let some small fish fry in order to make this go away? The media knows all too well how to make all this disappear.

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There is always the possibility of Biden going full Saturday Night Massacre and firing Durham. The chances of that happening increase as Biden's poll numbers go down and his running again becomes next to impossible. Nothing to lose for his future political goals. Do it before Harris takes over so she doesn't have that on her record.

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I'm going to ask you this question, just how does "Harris take over?"

sicandtiredTXN said:

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It's just amazing with all the spying on Trump and the Trump administration and the Trump organization it's just amazing that under all that scrutiny and all that digging and all those attempts to take him down he came out the other in relatively unscaved it's just amazing. There's no way any of these career politicians could withstand that on slot Trump has to be cleaner than a Safeway chitlin.

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I've got to admit, I'd pay a significant sum to have had access to Schiff's and Pelosi's phones and computers, along with all officials involved in the Russia hoax.

Just hacking the phone alone, not to mention the laptops, would be enough to make the government stop operating for a couple of weeks because there would be slim, to no, elected Democrats left in DC.