Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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12:44p, 5/1/20
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Is there anyone here that still has doubts about the existence of the deep state/cabal made up of a Democrats, Republicans and the ultra wealthy? I,e, the swamp.

Forget Flynn for a moment. Think bigger picture. Why in the world would all of this be done in order to get rid of Trump? What are they so afraid of?

These people in the FBI and DOJ were not doing this on their own.

Some folks here have known the details of all of this for 2 years or more.

Any idea where we may have gotten this info? You know the answer to the Q uestion .
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In reply to Line Ate Member • 12:54p, 5/1/20
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Line Ate Member said:
Levin has been harping at the WH angle since the onset. Because he was the chief of staff within the DOJ, liberals sometimes overlook that he remembers the process of briefings and what is supposed to go in briefings for the president.

My only fear is that it was done off the books, which should show how truly corrupt his administration was. Looking at it from just a single marker, you could say that this was one time thing. However, if you look at the whole term of the president, you have Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal and then this. It shows how inept, if he didn't know what was going on, or how corrupt, if he did know and did nothing.

My guess and gut feeling is the latter.
There were stories circulating in early fall 2016, that either Brennan or Clapper put a description of the Steele Dossier in a PDB for Obama and Obama recoiling saying he didn't want to know anything about and chided them for even putting it in his PDB since that is an official record.

Which again raises the question, where are those records of the Obama administration, in particular the PDBs?? Does Obama have them or do the national archives?
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In reply to captkirk • 12:58p, 5/1/20
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Man that's a pissy bunch
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1:04p, 5/1/20


What a shame
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 1:06p, 5/1/20
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BMX Bandit said:


What a shame
Isn't he in a minimum security Club Fed? Seems they can social distance pretty easily if they each have their own cells.
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In reply to Houston Lee • 1:07p, 5/1/20
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Some folks here have known the details of all of this for 2 years or more.

Any idea where we may have gotten this info? You know the answer to the Q uestion .


What a bunch of hippy dippy boloney.

The details are known because of tireless work by several investigators going over tons of FOI documents and court records that put their findings on Twitter & message board.

Not cryptic messages to the Dungeons & Dragons crowd
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:15p, 5/1/20
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Which again raises the question, where are those records of the Obama administration, in particular the PDBs?? Does Obama have them or do the national archives?
Everything I've read says they're sealed and property of his library-to-be (whatever that would officially be called). Sealing inconvenient truths is the Obama way. The Chicago thug way.
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1:23p, 5/1/20
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China should have the ones from 09-13 while Hillary was Sec T with her homebrew server.
Maroon and White always! EKU/TAMU
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1:25p, 5/1/20


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-bombshell-puts-renewed-attention-on-durham-probe-source-says-barr-talking-to-him-every-day

Encouraging read. "Barr talks to Durham every day."
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In reply to drcrinum • 1:33p, 5/1/20
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I like this part.

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"Durham has seen all of this already," one source told Fox News, adding that they "could be sufficient for some charges against agents."

"It's a crime to present under oath false or misleading information," the source told Fox News. "Not to mention obstruction of justice."
Imagine that! After all this time it could be Team Mueller who is slapped with obstruction charges.
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In reply to WatchOle • 1:40p, 5/1/20
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WatchOle said:
Very interesting theory. I've been wondering why they would come after Flynn for removal.
Flynn also planned to shake up/shrink/totally change the NSC (which Obama had more than doubled in size, and has since attempted at least one coup).

He was a threat on at least each of (a) a personal level (McCabe), (b) a deep state spy level (Carter Page FISA), and (c) an NSC "LTC Vindman and Eric Ciaramella decide our foreign policy" levels.

Bannon, McFarland and Flynn were all eliminated in the spring of 2017 because they...were considered enemies of forces in DC.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:40p, 5/1/20
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aggiehawg said:
I like this part.

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"Durham has seen all of this already," one source told Fox News, adding that they "could be sufficient for some charges against agents."

"It's a crime to present under oath false or misleading information," the source told Fox News. "Not to mention obstruction of justice."
Imagine that! After all this time it could be Team Mueller who is slapped with obstruction charges.
I'd love to see Brennan, Clapper, et al get what they deserve for this, but if only 1 person goes down, I think Andrew Weissmann would be my pick.
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1:45p, 5/1/20
Even if charged, will a Virginia or dc jury ever convict a proud member of team democrat?
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1:50p, 5/1/20


Short video. Now I understand Wray's role: Protect his buddies.
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In reply to Proc92 • 1:50p, 5/1/20
Proc92 said:
Even if charged, will a Virginia or dc jury ever convict a proud member of team democrat?
This is where I am at. With politics being so divisive right now, can you get a jury that is unbiased?
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In reply to will25u • 1:53p, 5/1/20
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will25u said:
Proc92 said:
Even if charged, will a Virginia or dc jury ever convict a proud member of team democrat?
This is where I am at. With politics being so divisive right now, can you get a jury that is unbiased?
It never made sense to me why Roger Stone was tried in DC instead of Florida. So if they could forum shop for him, maybe Durham can too?
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In reply to WatchOle • 1:55p, 5/1/20
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WatchOle said:
Very interesting theory. I've been wondering why they would come after Flynn for removal.
Hang around for awhile...I think you will see why trying to build a summary timeline is so difficult.

And Hawg did an excellent job a few posts up. Any questions from that, well start reading. I think the entire history on this case is in a few threads...about 2,000+/- pages.

War and Peace it is not...
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 2:11p, 5/1/20
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Ellis Wyatt said:
aggiehawg said:


Which again raises the question, where are those records of the Obama administration, in particular the PDBs?? Does Obama have them or do the national archives?
Everything I've read says they're sealed and property of his library-to-be (whatever that would officially be called). Sealing inconvenient truths is the Obama way. The Chicago thug way.
There was also chatter of them planning to make docs available at the library digitally. This also makes it ripe for editing.

Of course they could just burn them all - probably what all the cost was for his HQerrrHome in DC was about
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2:12p, 5/1/20
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FYI-On to SCOTUS.

Quote:
A federal appeals court said it wouldn't put a hold on its order for the Department of Justice (DOJ) to provide redacted grand jury materials from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation to Congress, but extended the deadline to allow the administration to appeal.

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals gave the Trump administration until May 11 to seek a stay from the Supreme Court, denying the DOJ's request for a longer stay. The order was set to go into effect on Friday.
The move essentially leaves it up to the Supreme Court to decide whether to halt the order to hand over the materials.
LINK
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In reply to drcrinum • 2:12p, 5/1/20
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drcrinum said:
It's not just coincidental that they got Flynn to sign the plea when he did; they said/documented on the side without revealing to the court (sham judge sullivan) that if he didn't his son would be indicted on the next day, which was also the day the FBI love birds messages went public.
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In reply to nortex97 • 2:17p, 5/1/20
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nortex97 said:
drcrinum said:
It's not just coincidental that they got Flynn to sign the plea when he did; they said/documented on the side without revealing to the court (sham judge sullivan) that if he didn't his son would be indicted on the next day, which was also the day the FBI love birds messages went public.
Wasn't Strzok's buddy, Judge Contreras the original judge on the Flynn case? I seem to recall he was when the plea deal was first signed, then Contreras was recused and Sullivan was assigned the case for the sentencing hearing.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:18p, 5/1/20
I believe you are correct. And I believe Judge Contreras should also spend some time behind bars.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:19p, 5/1/20
Yep. He is also a judge on the FISC. Helping to approve the FISA warrants then sitting as the judge to throw the book at Flynn.
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2:41p, 5/1/20
Going to post this in the other thread also, for multiple reasons, but mainly because she bashed the MSM on their coverage of General Flynn.

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2:47p, 5/1/20
I have a question. The second FBI agent that went with Strozk, Joe Pientka, why has he not been seen nor heard of in this whole ordeal?
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 2:49p, 5/1/20
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Ellis Wyatt said:
aggiehawg said:


Which again raises the question, where are those records of the Obama administration, in particular the PDBs?? Does Obama have them or do the national archives?
Everything I've read says they're sealed and property of his library-to-be (whatever that would officially be called). Sealing inconvenient truths is the Obama way. The Chicago thug way.
Yeah, how's that library going?
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aggiehawg said:
I like this part.

Quote:
"Durham has seen all of this already," one source told Fox News, adding that they "could be sufficient for some charges against agents."

"It's a crime to present under oath false or misleading information," the source told Fox News. "Not to mention obstruction of justice."
Imagine that! After all this time it could be Team Mueller who is slapped with obstruction charges.
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2:51p, 5/1/20
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She is awesome!
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In reply to will25u • 2:52p, 5/1/20
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I have a question. The second FBI agent that went with Strozk, Joe Pientka, why has he not been seen nor heard of in this whole ordeal?
Others here can give a better account, but last heard, he was in the San Francisco office.

At one time, I thought he may be a semi-white hat, but came to find out he may be worse than Strzok, if that's possible.
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will25u said:
I have a question. The second FBI agent that went with Strozk, Joe Pientka, why has he not been seen nor heard of in this whole ordeal?
Well, he was shipped out to the San Francisco office for awhile but then he was tracked down and now his name has been removed from web-site for that field office. Current status and whereabouts unknown.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:54p, 5/1/20
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Maybe he's in WitSec under Arnold's protection!
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At one time, I thought he may be a semi-white hat, but came to find out he may be worse than Strzok, if that's possible.
He was also Bruce Ohr's FBI contact guy, IIRC. He's in this thing up to his eyeballs.
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In reply to will25u • 3:01p, 5/1/20
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They actually have some shame that at best all this time they've been easily used and exploited dupes, but more likely they were willing and complicit shills and don't like having their malicious participation in smearing innocent people exposed. They are petulant children that have again been caught in the cookie jar.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 3:07p, 5/1/20
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BMX Bandit said:
TurkeyBaconLeg said:

Some folks here have known the details of all of this for 2 years or more.

Any idea where we may have gotten this info? You know the answer to the Q uestion .


What a bunch of hippy dippy boloney.

The details are known because of tireless work by several investigators going over tons of FOI documents and court records that put their findings on Twitter & message board.

Not cryptic messages to the Dungeons & Dragons crowd
Just the start of the info. Look at the dates. Funny how Flynn is "safe" now, isn't it?

More info to come of how we knew...








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