I think that was because of pressure from the Senate Intelligence Committee not to prosecute. Of course, several on that committee need to be prosecuted for their actions, too.aggiehawg said:
But in terms of leaking the Flynn/Kislyak call to the press, DOJ doesn't seem inclined to enforce those laws since James Wolfe was caught red handed with leaking an even higher classified document, a FISA application and he got off.
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The swamp is wide and deep.Ellis Wyatt said:I think that was because of pressure from the Senate Intelligence Committee not to prosecute. Of course, several on that committee need to be prosecuted for their actions, too.aggiehawg said:
But in terms of leaking the Flynn/Kislyak call to the press, DOJ doesn't seem inclined to enforce those laws since James Wolfe was caught red handed with leaking an even higher classified document, a FISA application and he got off.
Let's not forget that Nunes and co. (when republicans still controlled the House) essentially quit communicating with the SSCI because they weren't trustworthy. Some of that was obviously because of Wolfe and his leaking, but Warner, Burr, and others were not acting in good faith. They should all be prosecuted.aggiehawg said:The swamp is wide and deep.Ellis Wyatt said:I think that was because of pressure from the Senate Intelligence Committee not to prosecute. Of course, several on that committee need to be prosecuted for their actions, too.aggiehawg said:
But in terms of leaking the Flynn/Kislyak call to the press, DOJ doesn't seem inclined to enforce those laws since James Wolfe was caught red handed with leaking an even higher classified document, a FISA application and he got off.
I don't think anyone should ever sit down with the FBI if your attorney and videographer are not present.
Flynn did not know he was "sitting down with the FBI." He really just thought it was a courtesy visit, more or less.dreyOO said:
I don't think anyone should ever sit down with the FBI if your attorney and videographer are not present.
I think it was the threat of them being called as witnesses in a trial...which, obviously, COULD besmirch their Senate "careers", but if divulged facts/evidence can implicate them, it's even more of a mess because then the ugly heads Impeachment pop up like whack-a-mole.richardag said:Could you explain further? Are youbenchmark said:On Wolfe, one has to wonder. He struck a plea deal after his lawyers notified every SSCI senator they may be called to testify in his criminal trial. House of cards.aggiehawg said:
But in terms of leaking the Flynn/Kislyak call to the press, DOJ doesn't seem inclined to enforce those laws since James Wolfe was caught red handed with leaking an even higher classified document, a FISA application and he got off.
saying there could be criminal referrals against SSCI senators being considered? Or the SSCI senators were being protected by corrupt DOJ personnel?
Pardon my ignorance.
Not for WARNER obviously, he of the pristine Democrat heritage, but for Burr and 7 other Republicans...
For some of them, but Wolfe was THEIR GUY. Seems they were all chummy, dims and republicans, and they circled the wagons for Wolfe. I don't think it was just about saving themselves.SeMgCo87 said:
I think it was the threat of them being called as witnesses in a trial...which, obviously, COULD besmirch their Senate "careers", but if divulged facts/evidence can implicate them, it's even more of a mess because then the ugly heads Impeachment pop up like whack-a-mole.
Not for WARNER obviously, he of the pristine Democrat heritage, but for Burr and 7 other Republicans...
And that they released their ridiculous Russia report last week speaks to them not being really interested in justice and truth.
These Senators....
Wonder where the hell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is in with all of this? Seems like he just lets them do whatever they want.
Wonder where the hell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is in with all of this? Seems like he just lets them do whatever they want.
I think it's absolutely about saving themselves. They likely have enough on each other than if any of the others go down, that person burns the rest. M.A.D.Ellis Wyatt said:For some of them, but Wolfe was THEIR GUY. Seems they were all chummy, dims and republicans, and they circled the wagons for Wolfe. I don't think it was just about saving themselves.SeMgCo87 said:
I think it was the threat of them being called as witnesses in a trial...which, obviously, COULD besmirch their Senate "careers", but if divulged facts/evidence can implicate them, it's even more of a mess because then the ugly heads Impeachment pop up like whack-a-mole.
Not for WARNER obviously, he of the pristine Democrat heritage, but for Burr and 7 other Republicans...
And that they released their ridiculous Russia report last week speaks to them not being really interested in justice and truth.
Wolfe was likely told to leak itbenchmark said:On Wolfe, one has to wonder. He struck a plea deal after his lawyers notified every SSCI senator they may be called to testify in his criminal trial. House of cards.aggiehawg said:
But in terms of leaking the Flynn/Kislyak call to the press, DOJ doesn't seem inclined to enforce those laws since James Wolfe was caught red handed with leaking an even higher classified document, a FISA application and he got off.
Warner was actively involved in the conspiracy against Trump. At the very least, others on the committee were aware of that.AG 2000' said:
I think it's absolutely about saving themselves. They likely have enough on each other than if any of the others go down, that person burns the rest. M.A.D.
This is from the Flynn document list provided in Techno_Fog's tweets posted above on this page.
https://www.scribd.com/document/459199066/us-v-flynn
Maybe, but to say the least Wolfe wasn't using his right head when he leaked it to his young side piece reporter ***** from the SCIF.captkirk said:Wolfe was likely told to leak itbenchmark said:On Wolfe, one has to wonder. He struck a plea deal after his lawyers notified every SSCI senator they may be called to testify in his criminal trial. House of cards.aggiehawg said:
But in terms of leaking the Flynn/Kislyak call to the press, DOJ doesn't seem inclined to enforce those laws since James Wolfe was caught red handed with leaking an even higher classified document, a FISA application and he got off.
Grenell to replace Wray the day he's confirmed.
Not really...nortex97 said:
Grenell to replace Wray the day he's confirmed.
First, Trump / Barr would have to fire Wray and, usually promotion for Temp Director would come from within...most likely David Bowdich...
Then again, if Barr turns the evil eye of Sauron onto Wray, those below him may scatter like a covey of Quail...
Sol Wisenberg, former Deputy Whitewater Independent Counsel, cited Garrity as a precedent that provides that any federal employee be notified of the purpose of any questioning by authorities. Clearly, the FBI did not notify Flynn.
Quote:
In United States law, the Garrity warning is an advisement of rights usually administered by federal, state, or local investigators to their employees who may be the subject of an internal investigation. The Garrity warning advises subjects of their criminal and administrative liability for any statements they may make, but also advises subjects of their right to remain silent on any issues that tend to implicate them in a crime.
I would have to read that case, but just from that summary: Since when is Flynn and employee of the FBI subject to an internal investigation?VaultingChemist said:
Sol Wisenberg, former Deputy Whitewater Independent Counsel, cited Garrity as a precedent that provides that any federal employee be notified of the purpose of any questioning by authorities. Clearly, the FBI did not notify Flynn.Quote:
In United States law, the Garrity warning is an advisement of rights usually administered by federal, state, or local investigators to their employees who may be the subject of an internal investigation. The Garrity warning advises subjects of their criminal and administrative liability for any statements they may make, but also advises subjects of their right to remain silent on any issues that tend to implicate them in a crime.
Didn't Crossfire Typhoon get mentioned a couple days ago? There's a Crossfire Wind in that note. Who was the target there?
Typhoon was in relation to Papadopoulus, as I recall.texaggierm said:
Didn't Crossfire Typhoon get mentioned a couple days ago? There's a Crossfire Wind in that note. Who was the target there?
Now that stuff is finally happening on this front again we almost need a daily or weekly "in review" post detailing the high points.
It will be interesting when all this finally wraps up to go back and reread this historic thread.
It will be interesting when all this finally wraps up to go back and reread this historic thread.
Not to derail, but I'm just glad to have some real politics to follow instead of the the coronavirus crud. It took me an hour to catch up. Great work by all those who post and give input.
Great work by Sydney Powell and her team in finally ferreting all of this crap out after years of Team Mueller's stonewalling and lying. And she's not done yet.Ag87H2O said:
Not to derail, but I'm just glad to have some real politics to follow instead of the the coronavirus crud. It took me an hour to catch up. Great work by all those who post and give input.
It is very encouraging news at just the right time. A shot in the arm after what has been a bleak couple of months on just about every front. I had honestly given up that nothing would ever come of it but it looks like maybe justice will finally be done. I pray they don't let up until they've climbed all the way to the top of the tree and cut out all the bad branches.aggiehawg said:Great work by Sydney Powell and her team in finally ferreting all of this crap out after years of Team Mueller's stonewalling and lying. And she's not done yet.Ag87H2O said:
Not to derail, but I'm just glad to have some real politics to follow instead of the the coronavirus crud. It took me an hour to catch up. Great work by all those who post and give input.
WatchOle said:
Do we know the actual verbiage of Flynn's supposed lie? Is there a transcript of his interview with the FBI? My understanding was that the agents that interviewed him thought - at the time - that while Flynn might have answered inaccurately, they thought he was trying to be truthful.
Per the FD-302 report summarizing the FBI's interview,
Quote:
The interviewing agents asked FLYNN if he recalled any conversation with KISLYAK in which the expulsions were discussed, where FLYNN might have encouraged KISLYAK not to escalate the situation, to keep the Russian response reciprocal, or not to engage in a "tit-for-tat." FLYNN responded, "Not really. I don't remember. It wasn't, 'Don't do anything.'"
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Just think how long Durham has known a lot of what we are just now finding out and he likely knows much more. Reportedly he's been spending a lot of time in DC in SCIFs for the last several weeks. He's seeing the unredacted stuff and getting the fuller picture.Ag87H2O said:It is very encouraging news at just the right time. A shot in the arm after what has been a bleak couple of months on just about every front. I had honestly given up that nothing would ever come of it but it looks like maybe justice will finally be done. I pray they don't let up until they've climbed all the way to the top of the tree and cut out all the bad branches.aggiehawg said:Great work by Sydney Powell and her team in finally ferreting all of this crap out after years of Team Mueller's stonewalling and lying. And she's not done yet.Ag87H2O said:
Not to derail, but I'm just glad to have some real politics to follow instead of the the coronavirus crud. It took me an hour to catch up. Great work by all those who post and give input.
I wouldn't be surprised if some indictments are announced within the next few weeks.
Of course, that's not the original 302. That's the 302 Mccabe approved of. The original is "missing."Carolin_Gallego said:WatchOle said:
Do we know the actual verbiage of Flynn's supposed lie? Is there a transcript of his interview with the FBI? My understanding was that the agents that interviewed him thought - at the time - that while Flynn might have answered inaccurately, they thought he was trying to be truthful.
Per the FD-302 report summarizing the FBI's interview,Quote:
The interviewing agents asked FLYNN if he recalled any conversation with KISLYAK in which the expulsions were discussed, where FLYNN might have encouraged KISLYAK not to escalate the situation, to keep the Russian response reciprocal, or not to engage in a "tit-for-tat." FLYNN responded, "Not really. I don't remember. It wasn't, 'Don't do anything.'"
From your keyboard to God's ears. I pray it happens for our country's sake. No one should be above the law, especially those entrusted with leadership.aggiehawg said:Just think how long Durham has known a lot of what we are just now finding out and he likely knows much more. Reportedly he's been spending a lot of time in DC in SCIFs for the last several weeks. He's seeing the unredacted stuff and getting the fuller picture.Ag87H2O said:It is very encouraging news at just the right time. A shot in the arm after what has been a bleak couple of months on just about every front. I had honestly given up that nothing would ever come of it but it looks like maybe justice will finally be done. I pray they don't let up until they've climbed all the way to the top of the tree and cut out all the bad branches.aggiehawg said:Great work by Sydney Powell and her team in finally ferreting all of this crap out after years of Team Mueller's stonewalling and lying. And she's not done yet.Ag87H2O said:
Not to derail, but I'm just glad to have some real politics to follow instead of the the coronavirus crud. It took me an hour to catch up. Great work by all those who post and give input.
I wouldn't be surprised if some indictments are announced within the next few weeks.
Is he though? Where are those reports? I haven't seen any credible ones. I also fully believe the FBI worked to destroy as much of their records as possible, up to and including while I type this post.aggiehawg said:Just think how long Durham has known a lot of what we are just now finding out and he likely knows much more. Reportedly he's been spending a lot of time in DC in SCIFs for the last several weeks. He's seeing the unredacted stuff and getting the fuller picture.Ag87H2O said:It is very encouraging news at just the right time. A shot in the arm after what has been a bleak couple of months on just about every front. I had honestly given up that nothing would ever come of it but it looks like maybe justice will finally be done. I pray they don't let up until they've climbed all the way to the top of the tree and cut out all the bad branches.aggiehawg said:Great work by Sydney Powell and her team in finally ferreting all of this crap out after years of Team Mueller's stonewalling and lying. And she's not done yet.Ag87H2O said:
Not to derail, but I'm just glad to have some real politics to follow instead of the the coronavirus crud. It took me an hour to catch up. Great work by all those who post and give input.
I wouldn't be surprised if some indictments are announced within the next few weeks.
Okay, but has Flynn contested that particular quote? Or the one were he lied to the VP about the same topic?Ellis Wyatt said:Of course, that's not the original 302. That's the 302 Mccabe approved of. The original is "missing."Carolin_Gallego said:WatchOle said:
Do we know the actual verbiage of Flynn's supposed lie? Is there a transcript of his interview with the FBI? My understanding was that the agents that interviewed him thought - at the time - that while Flynn might have answered inaccurately, they thought he was trying to be truthful.
Per the FD-302 report summarizing the FBI's interview,Quote:
The interviewing agents asked FLYNN if he recalled any conversation with KISLYAK in which the expulsions were discussed, where FLYNN might have encouraged KISLYAK not to escalate the situation, to keep the Russian response reciprocal, or not to engage in a "tit-for-tat." FLYNN responded, "Not really. I don't remember. It wasn't, 'Don't do anything.'"
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
Ellis Wyatt said:Of course, that's not the original 302. That's the 302 Mccabe approved of. The original is "missing."Carolin_Gallego said:WatchOle said:
Do we know the actual verbiage of Flynn's supposed lie? Is there a transcript of his interview with the FBI? My understanding was that the agents that interviewed him thought - at the time - that while Flynn might have answered inaccurately, they thought he was trying to be truthful.
Per the FD-302 report summarizing the FBI's interview,Quote:
The interviewing agents asked FLYNN if he recalled any conversation with KISLYAK in which the expulsions were discussed, where FLYNN might have encouraged KISLYAK not to escalate the situation, to keep the Russian response reciprocal, or not to engage in a "tit-for-tat." FLYNN responded, "Not really. I don't remember. It wasn't, 'Don't do anything.'"
Just heard Sydney Powell on Hannity radio and she said she believes the original and a couple of other drafts of the 302 might be coming with some other documents soon.
Good Day.
Listening to Sidney just now on Hannity, without saying it, I get the impression that Durham is zeroing in on Brennan.
I hope they indict that sorry SOB.
I hope they indict that sorry SOB.
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