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Anyway, going into the recently unredacted footnotes from Horowitz's Report, #347, Page 192, it reveals that Steele's Primary Sub-source had personal & business ties with a sub source. Well, we are relatively assured that Steele's Primary Sub-source is Yuri Shvets -- discussed earlier on our thread. If indeed Baumgartner was this subsource that had personal & business ties with Shvets, then one can see the merry-go-round of Baumgartner floating between Shvets, Fusion GPS & Steele. Most certainly, the FBI & Durham would know about this if indeed, Baumgartner was this subsource. Baumgartner is a name to file in your memory banks.

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Great sleuthing and great summary.

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It's amazing that of all of the unlikely scenarios over the past few years about this coup attempt, the combination of Barr/DoJ hoping to get a case dismissed to avoid (even more) evidence of wrongdoing by the FBI/DoJ senior leadership, and the defendant claiming in protracted filings, of all things, ineffective assistance of counsel (one of the hardest things to get a verdict overturned with, to non-atty's reading, though the sleazy judge did not accept this), and then, protracted Brady material disclosures finally being made by the US Atty's during sentencing, might somehow be the feathers that break the camels' back here.

Oh, and a special prosecutor's team making an underhanded off-the-books deal with a defendant's legal team to get dirt/a plea deal in exchange for inaction not disclosed to a defendant.

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It is amazing. For such a supposed Dream Team of legal firepower, they sure did shoot themselves in the foot a lot, usually by overreach.

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Hubris

Mazel Tov !

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Maria is not in the Fake News business.

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My pet theory is that whole Inovo deal was the set-up and started by Brennan.

Derail:

I would like to see Doug Collins interviewing Jimbo. That conversation would make your head spin.

Now back to regularly scheduled programming.

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It had better be good. Last time everyone thought it was a slam dunk, & then Judge Sullivan wrote a 92 page thesis saying blah...blah...blah.

Good read by Tracy Beanz.

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But Judge Emmet Sullivan so far has sided with the prosecution and said none of Ms. Powell's document requests were relevant or they didn't exist. Prosecutors deny any wrongdoing.

Now Mr. Jensen has apparently unearthed new evidence that remains under seal.

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The first two sentences do not square with the third. Really hope Van Grack gets what he so richly deserves--disbarment and jail for contempt of court.

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It had better be good. Last time everyone thought it was a slam dunk, & then Judge Sullivan wrote a 92 page thesis saying blah...blah...blah.

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From the article;
Prosector Timothy J. Shea informed Ms. Powell Friday afternoon of Mr. Jensen's discoveries.
"The enclosed documents were obtained and analyzed by USA EDMO in March and April 2020 and are provided to you as a result of this ongoing review," Mr. Shea said. "Additional documents may be forthcoming."

Additional documents may be forthcoming

My hopes there actually will be justice jumped up incrementally.

Here is a charge for Clapper right here, no?

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What's the odds they find even more documents/texts?

If Jensen has free reign, then I bet there will be additional docs.

It would be kind of humorous to watch Wray, et al, run around on the 7th floor saying "oh, that door? Its nothing but supplies", or some such!

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Here is a charge for Clapper right here, no?

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Still makes my blood boil seeing "Hon." in front of Yates and Clapper (and a whole host of others of course).

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/27/robert-muellers-case-against-michael-flynn-is-about-to-implode/

Professor Cleveland goes into detail why she thinks Flynn will be exonerated, & I fell a little better about his chances, but I am still wary of Judge Sullivan -- could he have been bought off or blackmailed?

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Here is a charge for Clapper right here, no?

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Clapper lied. Yates didn't answer. There's a chance she was asked the same question in a classified setting and lied then, though.

Wouldn't be the first time Clapper lied to Congress

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Required reading!

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Here's the crux of the matter.

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In July 2018 Robert Mueller's investigation was at its apex. Bob Mueller is a "dear friend" of current AG Bill Barr.

This letter justifying the FISA application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant. My research suspicion is that the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from the fraudulent FISA authority. That's the motive.

In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller's poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there's a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

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Lots of actors...nary a conscience among them!

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https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/27/robert-muellers-case-against-michael-flynn-is-about-to-implode/

Professor Cleveland goes into detail why she thinks Flynn will be exonerated, & I fell a little better about his chances, but I am still wary of Judge Sullivan -- could he have been bought off or blackmailed?

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Even if he was bought off/blackmailed, at some point the evidence will speak for itself and override him, right?

may 11th?

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may 11th?

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To the tune of "The Song That Never Ends"

This is the case that never ends...
Yes it goes on and on my friend!
Some people stared prosecuting it
Not knowing what it was
And they'll continue prosecuting it forever just because...

This is the case that never ends...
Yes it goes on and on my friend!
Some people stared prosecuting it
Not knowing what it was
And they'll continue prosecuting it forever just because...

so tired of sullivan...

any guesses on the sealed motion?

Motion to Unseal. My guess.

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Here's the crux of the matter.

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In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller's poisoned fruit.

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I get to ask my "how does this affect Manafort" question again. Will be interesting to see.

How many convictions arose out of the Mueller investigation? Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadopoulos, Stone (his was lying to Congress, though). What about Cohen? Did they use FISA evidence to get the warrants for his office?

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Here's the crux of the matter.

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In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller's poisoned fruit.

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I get to ask my "how does this affect Manafort" question again. Will be interesting to see.

How many convictions arose out of the Mueller investigation? Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadopoulos, Stone (his was lying to Congress, though). What about Cohen? Did they use FISA evidence to get the warrants for his office?

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Manafort was scum. BUT it likely did affect his trial in some way since he was one of the few named in the Steele Dossier. Enough to overturn his conviction? No idea.

The EDVa had dropped their investigation into Manafort in 2014. Team Mueller revived it. Tolled the Statute of Limitations in secret. Did they use FISA gathered info to get the tolling? Again, don't know but it is possible. But I do know they didn't use the forged "black ledger" against him in the trial. Even Team Mueller knew that was bogus and using it would be an almost automatic reversal of his conviction on appeal. No chain of custody, nor business record exemptions, since it came solely from DNC operatives. Their only distancing from the subversive DNC elements.)

Ditto for Cohen. (FTR: I strongly suspect they did use false allegations for the warrants on Cohen, and most likely that info was FISAand Steele Dossier based.) Cohen taping his clients makes him scum, too.

Gates and Papadopoulus were guilty pleas not trials but their counsel should be going over their correspondence with Team Mueller with a fine toothed comb. Get the convictions off of their records, if they can.

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Did I miss this in this thread? I don't recall seeing this news covered in this thread.
Charges quietly dropped?

So this means the ham sandwich beat the wrap?