Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and Nancy Pelosi should immediately be charged with that. Put them on defense.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1208301390239617024.html

Clinesmith...Papadopoulos setup? Oh my, if this should be true.... Read the thread...lots of smoke.
Sundance sleuthing again.

Regarding my previous post about Sundance's sleuthing about the possibility of Clinesmith setting up Papadopoulos in a FARA violation, look at the following selected quotes from Pages 331-332 of the IG Report:

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When Source 2 initially asked about WikiLeaks, Papadopoulos commented that with respect to Assange "no one knows what he's going to release" and that he could release information on Trump as a "ploy to basically dismantle ... [or] undercut the ... next President of the United States regardless of who it's going to be." Papadopoulos also stated that "no one has proven that the Russians actually did the hacking," then continued to discuss hacking by pointing out that he had "actually had a few .. .lsraelis trying to hack" his cell phone, which Papadopoulos said "shocked" him because he had "done some sensitive work for that government," and he said the Israelis had "allowed [him] quite a high level of access." Papadopoulos also stated that "no one else" did the work that he did for the Israelis, and that it had led "some folks [to] joke ... [that Papadopoulos] should go into the CIA after this if [Trump] ends up losing."

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...Case Agent 3 added that because Papadopoulos "made statements about doing sensitive work for [a foreign] government" that opened a new area of inquiry with respect to Papadopoulos's foreign contacts.

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It's like Papadopoulos was inviting a FARA violation investigation. I think Sundance is on to something.

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Simpson = Perjury x 2 before the HPSCI.

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Time for the Roger Stone treatment.

I wonder how Clinesmith's "health" is lately..... Someone should really keep a close eye on him.

Pelosi's son? WTH is this?

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I call BS regarding Sundance's inference that Weissmann's calendar references to MLARS & Cyprus on June 13, 2017 had anything to do with Papadopoulos. Weissmann was preoccupied with prosecuting Manafort -- there's a detailed section in Horowitz's Report pp 291-297 which discusses Weissmann & Ahmad's preoccupation with an investigation into Manafort for money laundering that was ongoing in MLARS in late 2016 & early 2017, but neither of these 2 individuals were actually assigned to MLARS, & it was definitely inappropriate. But they were concerned that the Trump Admin was going to close this investigation into Manafort. Weissmann's incident involving an AP reporter & Manafort's locker dates to March 31, 2017. From reading this section, one would expect that when once assigned to Mueller's Team, Weissmann's first order of business was going to be to go after Manafort. (Surprise!) Indeed, Weissmann, when interviewing & hiring people to Mueller's Team, one of his initial primary responsibilities, selected Kyle Freeny from the MLARS unit. Weissmann's interview with Freeny occurred on June 7, 2017 -- that information is available in the same batch of documents from which Sundance obtained the information about the entries on Weissmann's calendar from June 13, 2017; see:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-doj-documents-showing-andrew-weissmann-leading-hiring-effort-for-mueller-special-counsel/

And indeed, the money laundering investigation into Manafort went through Cyprus per the Black Ledger:
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2018/07/08/manafort-justice-department-reporters-701906

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Good point, as usual.

Weissmann could multitask or have assigned the Papadop sting to someone else in those meetings, though.

I mean if Clinesmith was involved and using Tawil to plant the money on Papadop? Timing still works.

These were OOC and rogue people running this, chumming the waters for bait at every step. When Mueller basically brings over most of the Crossfire Hurricane team from the FBI, they have quite the leg up on knowing how to entrap and set individuals up for charges.

There is no getting around the FBI waiting for Papadop, with no warrant, at the airport, unless it was a sting. None.

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LOL that one of them is named REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dan-bongino-show/id965293227?i=1000460397803

Bongino's podcast with Nunes from this week is pretty good. Nunes is able to say a little more nowadays.

Clinesmith seems to be caught in extremely dangerous type Quicksand. He could go away for many decades. Unless he is dumber than Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson and Nancy Pelosi, he must be singing like crazy !

This is a highly speculative question, but as Hawg said, Mueller basically brough over most of the Crossfire Hurrican team, and as we find out more information about that operation, it seems to me that a lot of those folks were bent. As such, does that put a bigger stain on the Mueller investigation, even to the point of nullifying a lot of their findings?

I don't necessarily have an issue with Manafort, et al, getting busted, but it sure seems to me all of those folks involved in the investigation might need to lawyer up. Or am I just wishful thinking, and getting out over my skis?

And oyster, I might be wrong, but I bet Clinesmith is just a useful idiot. The folks higher up knew who to go to, and dumped that particular task in his lap, because they knew his zeal would overwhlem his reason.

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Only issue I have about Manafort was the secret tolling of the Statute of Limitations after the EDVa had dropped the case in 2014.

In the normal scheme of things, Manafort wouldn't have been a target as a pressure point just to get to Trump.

No defense of him at all but he was never the target. He was just what they thought was an useful stooge.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/20/the-deep-state-resistance-terrorized-innocent-americans-including-me

Above article written by one of the innocent people dragged through the streets by the SpyGate perpetrators.

The evil doers & their cohorts in the MSM will never apologize to the people whose lives they have tarnished & ruined during the 'ongoing' SpyGate scheme. Reminds me of a current popular meme: "How dare you!"

This thread is about to roll over to PG 1...THOUSAND!!!

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https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/20/the-deep-state-resistance-terrorized-innocent-americans-including-me

Above article written by one of the innocent people dragged through the streets by the SpyGate perpetrators.

The evil doers & their cohorts in the MSM will never apologize to the people whose lives they have tarnished & ruined during the 'ongoing' SpyGate scheme. Reminds me of a current popular meme: "How dare you!"

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Not only will they not apologize, they will continue this evil madness unless people involved go to jail. Sadly, even then the MSM will never apologize.

This has been a fantastic thread and I really appreciate the digging, analysis, and speculation about clues that everyone has brought to this thread. It's been incredibly informative and disturbing at the same time.

Our government is out of control and unless there is jail time for the top people that perpetrated this bureaucratic coup, we will not have a Republic in a generation or two.

The bureaucracy crossed the Rubicon in the 2016 election. The question is will we fight for the Republic or accept a tyranny of technocrats?

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This has been a fantastic thread and I really appreciate the digging, analysis, and speculation about clues that everyone has brought to this thread. It's been incredibly informative and disturbing at the same time.

Our government is out of control and unless there is jail time for the top people that perpetrated this bureaucratic coup, we will not have a Republic in a generation or two.

The bureaucracy crossed the Rubicon in the 2016 election. The question is will we fight for the Republic or accept a tyranny of technocrats?

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Durham has a daunting task. Lots of low hanging fruit .... perjury, FISA, obstruction of justice, etc ... but still nothing we've seen yet that ties it all together into a broad criminal conspiracy.that passes the legal test of "beyond a reasonable doubt."

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This has been a fantastic thread and I really appreciate the digging, analysis, and speculation about clues that everyone has brought to this thread. It's been incredibly informative and disturbing at the same time.

Our government is out of control and unless there is jail time for the top people that perpetrated this bureaucratic coup, we will not have a Republic in a generation or two.

The bureaucracy crossed the Rubicon in the 2016 election. The question is will we fight for the Republic or accept a tyranny of technocrats?

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Durham has a daunting task. Lots of low hanging fruit .... perjury, FISA, obstruction of justice, etc ... but still nothing we've seen yet that ties it all together into a broad criminal conspiracy.that passes the legal test of "beyond a reasonable doubt."

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We really won't know that until Durham is ready to fire the shot heard round the world, so to speak. If he can't make it happen, it ain't gonna happen.

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That's where Brennan comes in. Durham is focusing on Brennan's communications for a reason. And don't forget that Gina Haspel was Station Chief in London when much of SpyGate went down. How much was she in, or more importantly, out of the loop? If Brennan was doing this on the down low and behind her back, that tends to show a conspiracy.

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Guess who suddenly is no longer listed as an Assistant Special Agent in Charge?

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Since December 13, 2019 when the above was posted. Coincidence??? Hardly IMO.

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dan-bongino-show/id965293227?i=1000460397803

Bongino's podcast with Nunes from this week is pretty good. Nunes is able to say a little more nowadays.

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44:00 mark = Nunes says it all started with Fusion GPS, the DNC & some dirty cops at the top....

Not the same podcast.. but i did hear Bongino mention that the Cruz and Carson campaigns were also spied on... not sure where he's getting his info. it was a kinda like - and ya, btw, they spied on these guys too.
and i think it might have been his podcast just previous to the Nunes interview.

I haven't really seen that anywhere else

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Clinesmith seems to be caught in extremely dangerous type Quicksand. He could go away for many decades. Unless he is dumber than Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson and Nancy Pelosi, he must be singing like crazy !

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He should be "singing" and hopefully has evidence. It would(hopefully "will") be interesting to see what potential charges may be brought to bear on this scumbag.

If conspiracy advocates are to be believed, his leftist handlers are considering his "swinging" by the neck so to speak. If I were a cruel investigator I might make an offhand comment to Clinesmith something on the lines of,"damn dude, they got to Epstein in high security lockup, .....".

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fisa-court-refuses-review-fbi-deception

Techno_Fog's point: Judge Collyer wants all of Clinesmith's prior FISA application work reviewed. Why just Clinesmith? Why did she not request that the FISA application work be reviewed of all the other agents involved in Carter Page's FISA application? Especially Joe Pientka.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fisa-court-refuses-review-fbi-deception

Techno_Fog's point: Judge Collyer wants all of Clinesmith's prior FISA application work reviewed. Why just Clinesmith? Why did she not request that the FISA application work be reviewed of all the other agents involved in Carter Page's FISA application? Especially Joe Pientka.

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Because the same people signed off on multiple FISAs in this deal, and she probably approved them.

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This. She can only come out of this corrupt or incompetent. Neither wear well and both explain her sudden 'cough cough' health issues.

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Have to confess I am completely ignorant about HAM radio. I always kind of assumed it was open to being received by any in range, like CBs in the 70s and 80s.

Is there some encryption now? Or just a code book? And how would she know the code book without input from Steele?

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HAM radio operators are supposed to identify themselves with call signs but there's no mechanism to enforce that. As stated before, HAM traffic broadcast origin is obscure and listeners are anonymous. Perhaps most importantly, the range of a transmission is limited to the range of the transmitter (in simplex point to point) or the repeater's transmission range (in duplex mode where transmission is on one frequency from the sender and is repeated on a different frequency at higher power for listeners using that repeater).

If one were to use HAM bands for covert communication (which is a violation of FCC regulations but one that is never prosecuted) it would probably not be the HF band that has ranges of hundreds of miles based on atmospheric reflection to the surface across "skip zones". Covert communication would probably be done using VHF or UHF "line of sight" bands or microwave frequencies. Using the minimum effective radiated power also reduces the chances of surreptitious reception by third parties. A UHF transceiver set at low power would have a range of a few miles but that is probably sufficient for communicating from the Maryland suburbs of D.C. across the metro area.

Using a directional antenna on a high spot, such as the roof of a building, aimed at the location of the intended receiver would minimize the chances of the communication being intercepted. To intercept the communication from two stations using would require being positioned close to the axis of the two stations at the right time and on the correct frequency. This was a well understood principle used by spies during the Cold War and before the WWW became a the preferred default method of communications. The listening posts that used to be manned constantly around D.C. to intercept and triangulate on radio traffic from suspected spies is probably defunct because the internet rendered that method of communications *mostly* obsolete.

It shouldn't be assumed that covert communication on burst transmission radio is voice communication. Most likely it would be the use of digital packet transmissions through which data files can be sent and received. If you were listening to a frequency where digital packets are being sent it would sound like the handshake squeals that you may recall from the age of dial-up networking 20+ years ago because that's exactly what it is.

Files can be sent as unencrypted text or could be compressed and encrypted before transmission. They decryption key would be shared by other means beforehand. Sending hundreds of kilobytes of text would not take much time at all even at the low bit-rate that is possible on VHF frequencies.

If Nellie Ohr used her amateur radio license to communicate covertly the chances of anyone noticing the transmissions would be very slim. Even if someone was listening at the right place and recording encrypted packets they would have to crack the encryption to read the data. Even then they would not know with certainly who was sending nor from exactly where.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-case-agent-1-fbi-agent-behind-most-significant-errors-trump-russia-investigation

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