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Let's pivot a bit.

I fear that Barr may not go after Comey because then he would have to go after Wray.

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Why is Wray still Director?

Bring in and outsider/hatchet man to clean this mess up

I suspect that to be the case, but I'm certain Trump and Barr chat regularly, and Trump IS salesman at heart.

Hopefully, he'll ask Barr "did he break the law"? If the answer is "yes", then I'm doing whatever I can to get Barr to bust Wray.

At the very least, Wray has been an enabler of opaqueness, although I'm not sure if congress has added "enabling" to our legal code.

aggiehawg said:

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Let's pivot a bit.

I fear that Barr may not go after Comey because then he would have to go after Wray.

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I read the tweet, and knowing Barr's/Durham's current demeanor, tend to think that Durham...

I assume this should go here.

https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/public-filings/order-32

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This order responds to reports that personnel of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) provided false information to the National Security Division (NSD) of the Department of Justice, and withheld material information from NSD which was detrimental to the FBI's case, in connection with four applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) for authority to conduct electronic surveillance of a U.S. citizen named Carter W. Page. When FBI personnel mislead NSD in the ways described above, they equally mislead the FISC.

In order to appreciate the seriousness of that misconduct and its implications, it is useful to understand certain procedural and substantive requirements that apply to the gov.....

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I am on a phone and can't read much, but I assume this is what you just referenced.

https://search.justice.gov/search?query=corney&op=Search&affiliate=justice

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https://search.justice.gov/search?query=corney&op=Search&affiliate=justice

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FIFY

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1207042818503585794.html

Good thread on the FISC implications/ background details.

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"Conspiracy Theory" [/Johnson Mapplethorpe]

Seems that info about Clinesmith's altering of evidence concerning the CIA report on Page's affiliation went to Judge Collyer in October/November & yanked her tail.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/17/william-taylor-top-us-diplomat-in-ukraine-is-stepping-down/

Another skunk belonging to the Schiif Collusion Scheme bites the dust.

I smell bulls- I mean a book deal

Which username is Nunes using?

That first comment sounds like me, and 90% of the posters on this thread. Since Gates outed himself years ago, I'm shocked to find out Nunes has apparently been posting on this great thread.

Whooda thunk it? DC comes to TA.

This is rather 'sick' IMO. I won't watch anymore of her 'interview'.

She is tired. She won't lay too much longer.

Pinche Abogado said:

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She is tired. She won't lay too much longer.

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Now that's some odd phraseology, right there.

Pinche Abogado said:

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She is tired. She won't lay too much longer.

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What? Translation please.

Poster probably meant "last much longer", not "lay"

Pinche Abogado said:

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She is tired. She won't lay too much longer.

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She'll probably lay a lot more co-workers.

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Powell says that "the plagiarism accusation makes no sense." She maintains that she used her own prior briefings and a brief written by a friend who was in fact cited.

The criticism in the opinion will likely deepen the unease of Flynn in having the sentencing under Judge Sullivan. However, the court said that it will proceed with precisely such a hearing on January 28, 2020.

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From Turley's article. When a judge so openly excoriates counsel, you're damn right the client gets nervous. And the fact that Sullivan had to go so far out of his way to do suggests personal animus rather than any actual wrong-doing by Powell.

We've debated the pros and cons for Sidney's legal strategy here in not quickly moving to withdraw the guilty plea after the change in counsel. Yes, doing so would open up Flynn and perhaps his son to other charges and apparently that very real threat was bolstered by the last minute tactics in the trial of Flynn's partner, Rafekian. (The government put his son on the witness list, dropped Flynn himself as witness which was specifically required under the plea deal and then designated Flynn as a so-called conspirator out of the blue.)

Sullivan should have taken judicial notice of those court proceedings, in my view.

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This why I made a C in Business Law, I always confused Justice with The Law, especially on essay questions.

Powell gave Sullivan the opportunity to rule in favor of justice, he chose the law as he sees it. It is patently obvious there was extensive prosecutorial misconduct and abuse of power, let alone malfeasance on the part of Flynn's original lawyers. The true criminals(re: the prosecution) will go unpunished and the innocent will pay the price.

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Except for the fact that Flynn has not actually argued that he is innocent.

He was definitely set up, naively fell for it and was a target of a political hit job. However, he still lied to the feds during an investigation.

I was pretty critical of Flynn when he was first charged. Now it is clear that he is a victim in this whole fiasco. That doesn't mean he should be absolved from his actions but I just hope that all the bad actors will pay for their actions.

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But your premise is that he said he is guilty based upon the 302 evidence.

But was that 302 altered? It's hard for someone to argue their innocence when the only legal written record contradicts your memory of the interview.

Sullivan either somehow verified that the 302s content did not change from draft one until the final (Regardless of the texts showing a Page and Strozk talking about edits) or he took proven liars at their word, again. Without releasing all materials it would have been irrelevant what Flynn argued in court had he not plead guilty.

So yes aggiehawg the question really is, if they get indicted for falsifying evidence does Sullivan have to come back and vacate the plea and sentence?

I've wondered about that too, but I ask so many questions already, and it's a huge hypothetical, I decided to wait for other events to take place.

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So yes aggiehawg the question really is, if they get indicted for falsifying evidence does Sullivan have to come back and vacate the plea and sentence?

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If either of them are indicted for falsifying anything having directly to do with Flynn, yes I think Sullivan will have to revisit.

If either of them are indicted on other grounds, becomes a judgment call but gives ample grounds for appeal.

But actually Strzok and Pientka are kind of low hanging fruit. The type who might be offered a plea deal on some minor charge that does not appear to have a bearing on Flynn.

Short video. Nunes regarding the FISC.

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If either of them are indicted for falsifying anything having directly to do with Flynn, yes I think Sullivan will have to revisit.

If either of them are indicted on other grounds, becomes a judgment call but gives ample grounds for appeal.

But actually Strzok and Pientka are kind of low hanging fruit. The type who might be offered a plea deal on some minor charge that does not appear to have a bearing on Flynn.

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This.

Durham goes after all the low hanging fruit ASAP and offers plea deals. Total focus on building a case for conspiracy.

The FISA Judges were probably in on the SCAM ! Collyer's Letter was CYA !

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Durham goes after all the low hanging fruit ASAP and offers plea deals. Total focus on building a case for conspiracy.

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Hopefully, unlike Team Mueller, the plea deal includes some type of conspiracy charge for the underpinning of larger (and more prominent) indictment(s). That's how you build a criminal case using plea and immunity deals.

Which is why the plea deals that Team Mueller (other than the very weird Michael Cohen deal) were confusing when it came to the overall Russia/Trump collusion narrative. To prove there was a conspiracy, someone has to admit to being a conspirator.

After speaking with their officials, I dont think every judge was in on it. Contreras is dirty however. Also, how many judges do you need to sign off on a given FISA? Do you need a majority of them to agree? Do you only need one?

I've just been here off and on, but can you put into layman's terms why the Flynn case has drug on forever? I understand a sentencing date has been set. Is it because of Flynn's legal team, and what do you think is the ultimate outcome? TIA

Just one

https://tg24.sky.it/palermo/2019/12/09/russiagate-agrigento.html

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Russiagate, Joseph Mifsud investigated in Agrigento for embezzlement


In a statement, delivered to the public prosecutor's office, the "crazy expenses" of the teacher are disputed: trips abroad in the company of "unknown young women from the East" and the purchase of at least 5 BlackBerry phones, for a hole from beyond 200 thousand euros

The deputy prosecutor of Agrigento, Salvatore Vella, and the prosecutor Chiara Bisso, after opening a file against unknown persons for abuse of office and fraud, have registered the former president of the Consortium with the hypothesis of embezzlement, university student Joseph Mifsud, the man at the center of the Russiagate scandal. The prosecutor has activated the procedures for the notification of the inquiry to the teacher, considered a spy whose traces have been lost in 2017.

The investigation started from a statement in the attorney of the current president of the Consortium, Giovanni Di Madia, in which they dispute the "crazy expenses" made by Mifsud when he was head of the institution, from 2009 to 2012. The teacher has made several trips to Russia, Malta, USA, England, Libya, Lebanon and Bulgaria. Almost always, we read in the text, accompanied by "unknown young women from the East". The man would also have bought at least 5 Blackberry phones, then disappeared into thin air. The economic hole referred to is, overall, over 200 thousand euros.....

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Perhaps this is the real reason Mifsud disappeared.

Isn't it amazing how many people associated with SpyGate have been identified as upstanding members of society?